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I'm stumped. Truly stumped. When it comes to who to vote for. I won't, as I've said, vote for a party led by Doug Ford even though my PC MPP has done a good job. But I expect the PCs to win, and while she's been a good opposition member as a government member, even if she were in the Cabinet, her job - quite frankly - won't be to represent me, it will be to support the government.

But none of my other local candidates do anything for me. There haven't been any all candidates meetings in my community to see them in action. There have been a couple that have got local media attention - but neither the PC nor Green candidates attended from what I've read. That's a shame, because ideologically I think I'm closest to the Greens now - but not even the Green Party website tells me anything except her name. Not even a bio. In the whole campaign we've received one piece of literature - from the PCs, during the first week. Complete silence since then. (I'm getting the point that Brock is the least important part of "Haliburton-Kawartha Lakes-Brock.") Neither the Liberal nor NDP candidates are especially impressive. We have a bunch of fringe party candidates who don't interest me. Aside from the PC candidate the best candidate might be the Liberal, but Wynne's sell-off of Hydro One really angered me, as did her very cynical pre-election "goodies" budget. I don't feel Horwath has done a very effective job in the last couple of weeks. I thought she stumbled and seemed quite unsure of how to respond when some controversies emerged around a handful of NDP candidates, and I didn't like the way she (or Wynne) handled the Ford legal controversy yesterday. Even I see it as largely a personal, in-family squabble and how relevant it is to the election I'm not sure. I think they should have just left it to the headlines rather than piling on. It wasn't a good look. Not for me anyway.

I'm seriously thinking long and hard about formally declining my ballot, so disappointed am I by the available options.
 
revsdd said:
but not even the Green Party website tells me anything except her name. Not even a bio.
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That's disappointing, not to find the info there. Might be useful feedback to send them ... I know you're good at letter writing ;)

revsdd said:
declining my ballot,
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Just read about this option this week - not something I had previously heard of. I don't think I will do it myself, but good to know the option exists.

My local liberal candidate is the current finance minister - who I could see making a future run for party leader.
 
Well, my riding's PC candidate just spewed ignorance about our Bus Rapid Transit plan, which pretty much tells me what Queen's Park's attitude to the plan will if they win. She wasn't on my list of options to start with and she ain't gettin' on it now.

Mythbusting Susan Truppe’s false claims about BRT – Jesse Helmer – Medium

Oh, and the author of this debunk of her piece is a city councillor and member of the transit commission, not an political candidate armchair quarterbacking from the sidelines. He's been involved in the development of this plan from the get-go and knows what's what.
 
revsdd said:
There haven't been any all candidates meetings in my community to see them in action.
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Perhaps next election cycle, your congregation might consider hosting such a meeting? We find it very interesting, even if there's another all-candidates meeting, to observe the candidates under the "hobble of Holy Manners"...
 
BetteTheRed said:
Perhaps next election cycle, your congregation might consider hosting such a meeting? We find it very interesting, even if there's another all-candidates meeting, to observe the candidates under the "hobble of Holy Manners"...
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My congregation isn't in my riding.
 
Oh, of course not, I'd forgotten. Well, talk to the minister of the UCCan who IS in your riding?
 
It is a very discouraging election. I voted for one of the candidates in my riding who is new but has pretty interesting resume. She should be good if she gets in

Have no idea what outcome I would like to see. Some sort of short lived minority. So all the parties change leaders and actually plan something helpful perhaps

On a side note. The lawsuit against the fords by Renata ford is very sad in many ways. That a man , who is the only source of income had so little life insurance for his kids. That his brothers apparently are delaying paying out income to his widow. Thqt the mother in law is such a bitch she defends the indefensible by labeling Renata as someone with substance abuse problems, that the will is apparently very flimsy

It’s a reminder to all. Get good life insurance. Get a good lawyer. Write a detailed will. Choose your executors wisely

Yikes
 
Here in Etobicoke Centre it has come down to a two party race - Liberal incumbent vs. PC. There are other candidates, but they don't have a realistic chance of winning. Since I can't under good conscience vote Liberal, the Tories will get my X.
 
I live in an area that's been the darkest royal blue since Confederation. I doubt there's ever been anyone but a conservative in this riding. My elderly aunt-in-law is true blue, but is really holding her nose this time when she casts her PC vote. Her distaste for the current candidate still isn't enough for her to change her vote to any other party.

I still don't know whether to vote to help the Liberals keep party status or for the Greens, since neither one of the front runners represent an option for me, but one or the other or both gaining power is inevitable. Maybe the extreme sides need their chance to prove their ineptitude as well. What crazy bedfellows they'd be if a minority gov't is the result. Could be worse, I guess, but nothing would get done. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe the extreme left and right will get it out of their system by next election.

I am not NDP. I like their focus on providing a good social safety net, but there are too many other issues with which I disagree (which I won't get into here).

One thing for sure, I won't be "holding my nose" this time. I'm sick and tired of voters feeling forced into doing that. I'm viewing this as an opportunity to put my vote where I really want to.
 
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I just had a talk with a woman who called from the Green Party to make sure I was voting/had voted, needed a ride, etc. I still haven't decided and she commiserated with me on my dilemma.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I just had a talk with a woman who called from the Green Party to make sure I was voting/had voted, needed a ride, etc. I still haven't decided and she commiserated with me on my dilemma.
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I contacted the local PC, Liberal, NDP, and Green candidates to get a ride to the polls. Only the PC candidate replied.
 
Noticed this morning that the red signs of our Liberal incumbent now sport a black banner at the top which reads, "Your Local Champion"

Interesting election day campaign strategy.
 
Generally, the problem with all-candidates meetings is well summed up in this morning's edition of The Brock Citizen - our local community newspaper, reporting on an all-candidates meeting held in Lindsay recently - again, far from Brock Township. Just a snippet:

"The latest Haliburton-Kawartha Lakes-Brock debate, ahead of the June 7 provincial election, didn't offer any policy that couldn't be found online." The story also notes that neither our PC nor Green candidates bothered showing up. Based on local reporting the last few weeks I'm under the impression that those two candidates have skipped all the "debates" (or all-candidates meetings) held during the campaign.

After many years of faithfully attending all candidates meetings, I now tend to look for my information online. Our Green candidate has no campaign website, and the Green Party website has only her name and picture and no bio. She has a personal Facebook account and nothing more and I'm not really interested in "friending" her. If she hasn't been bothered opening a Facebook page for the campaign I can't imagine that she wants people on her personal page for campaign reasons.

At least the NDP have a bio of their local candidate online, as do the Liberals. Our Liberal candidate also has a Twitter feed and a Facebook page in which she's at least been talking about the campaign, and our NDP candidate has a Facebook page.
 
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