Jesus Christ Superstar

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Jae said:
I see. So they have Judas rise again but not Jesus. Well isn't that special. :rolleyes:
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He doesn't rise again. It's a literary device. Turn off that literal brain of yours and try to understand what that means.
 
Mendalla said:
He doesn't rise again. It's a literary device. Turn off that literal brain of yours and try to understand what that means.
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Is Judas depicted as rising again or not Mendalla. One post it's yes, now suddenly it's no. Seems the creators of the musical want to glorify the carnal man above the divine one.
 
Jae said:
Is Judas depicted as rising again or not Mendalla. One post it's yes, now suddenly it's no. Seems the creators of the musical want to glorify the carnal man above the divine one.
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He is not portrayed as rising again (actually, the description in the plot summary on wiki is him descending from heaven but I don't actually recall that), he is being used as a narrative voice. He does not interact with other characters or the scene, he simply sings a song that raises questions about just why Jesus did things the way he did. He is addressing the audience as much as anything.

Not everything in a movie, play, or novel really "happens", some of it is ways to comment on the action. Again, turn off your literal brain and try to understand what a "literary device" is. And if you can't grok that, then you're right. This play, and a lot of modern and postmodern literature and drama, is not for you.
 
Mendalla said:
He is not portrayed as rising again (actually, the description in the plot summary on wiki is him descending from heaven but I don't actually recall that), he is being used as a narrative voice. He does not interact with other characters or the scene, he simply sings a song that raises questions about just why Jesus did things the way he did. He is addressing the audience as much as anything.

Not everything in a movie, play, or novel really "happens", some of it is ways to comment on the action. Again, turn off your literal brain and try to understand what a "literary device" is. And if you can't grok that, then you're right. This play, and a lot of modern and postmodern literature and drama, is not for you.
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There's no reason to get snippy here Mendalla. Fact is, after @dreamerman posted a video of what he thought was the resurrection of Jesus, you wrote, "Well, except it's Judas after his suicide." As for literary devices, I have watched enough cinema and television and seen enough things on stage to understand them.
 
Jae said:
As for literary devices, I have watched enough cinema and television and seen enough things on stage to understand them.
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Good, then why are you insisting that the play says Judas rose from the dead when it is very clear in context that it is a literary device, not a statement about Judas rising from the dead. Oh, right, you don't know the context because you won't watch it.:rolleyes:
 
Mendalla said:
Good, then why are you insisting that the play says Judas rose from the dead when it is very clear in context that it is a literary device, not a statement about Judas rising from the dead. Oh, right, you don't know the context because you won't watch it.:rolleyes:
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Because _you_ suggested in response to @dreamerman that a resurrection of Judas is depicted. That's why.
 
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Mendalla said:
Well, except it's Judas after his suicide. :rolleyes:
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Yes it is Judas but you see Jesus first with whip marks on his back and then you see him again with a new gown and no whip marks. Then Judas looks to be addressing Jesus in the song. The singers accompanying Judas look like the heavenly host.:cool:
 
I'm wondering why someone who doesn't like know the soundtrack, has never seen any performances, and never plans to, wants to talk about it...and thinks anyone is going to take their opinion with any degree of interest.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I'm wondering why someone who doesn't like know the soundtrack, has never seen any performances, and never plans to, wants to talk about it...and thinks anyone is going to take their opinion with any degree of interest.
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How's that working out for you Bette?
 
The posted clips are great

I think it is important not to treat the story of Jesus in some sort of pious way. Music of all types should celebrate and challenge us to evaluate our beliefs.

To me , this musical really delivers. I actually also like godspell though it is much more main stream without the rock and roll aspect. I expect the ALW actually wanted the evil rock and roll as part of the story line for his musical.


Can’t wait to see what they do
 
I loved Godspell for its gentle, hippie-dippe sorta feel. We mounted a production of it back in the late 90s. I was Gilmer, although my music needed some re-keying because I am a an alto-tenor, not a mezzo. It was a LOT of fun to do.
 
I saw Godspell at Calvary United in Kitchener back in the eighties. Quite enjoyed it, but haven't seen or listened to it recently. Maybe if this goes well, NBC can do it next Easter.:cool:
 
This is sorta what the Rev was trying to do last Sunday with her Palm Sunday production of "Jerusalem News". Try to imagine what those events might look like today.
 
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