TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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revsdd said:
In theory I agree with @Kimmio that he could flip, for exactly the reason she stated. He has no personal convictions or ideology. He loves the campaign, loves being the centre of attention, loves the cheers of the crowds. But in practical terms, I don't think he can switch too much, because if he did he'd lose a significant part of his core and he wouldn't get credit from those who oppose him now. I agree with @chansen that he has to stay the course he's set, whether he really likes it or not.

I suspect that he doesn't much like governing because he can't necessarily get his way easily. As the head of a family owned business he could basically do whatever he wanted. He spoke a word and it was law in the Trump Organization. I think that's why he likes Executive Orders so much - issuing them gives him the sense that he's back running his business. Except that he has courts and Congress and opposition parties and media getting in the way constantly. I suspect that it must be frustrating to him. I still have this nagging feeling within me that he really didn't want to win. He wanted to run for president, but not actually be the president.

If I were looking at this in a really machiavellian way I'd point to his campaign as evidence of that. To me he just kept deliberately getting more and more outrageous, almost as if he was inviting - even begging - people not to vote for him, but the more outrageous he got the more people jumped on board with him, and eventually there was no way out for him.
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I think there's a pretty good chance he'll flip. He's in so much hot water with the Russia connections - he'd probably take a deal he can't refuse in order to avoid legal trouble. His base thinks he's great - he has them hooked - he just has to give them a tweet of praise now and then, remind them "they won" and they wouldn't care if he flipped. They wouldn't know because they're getting the alternative facts. Maybe I have watched too many movies.

I have also read a lot about narcissism recently. His base is his supply. He'll dump them later for better (for him) supply but keep them on the line just in case. He doesn't care about them.
 
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chansen said:
When you can invent your own reality, why flip on anything? Trump won the popular vote* and he had the largest inauguration crowd in history*.
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His "fans" believe that. But he needs more fans - "better" ones - so that he can believe it to be possible himself - it hurts him too much too see those photos and read those stats - he was over the moon that the MSM gave decent reviews of his speech (but he stayed vague on Twitter. It was just THANK YOU!) . He'll flip but he won't tell, it'll just happen. Shhh.
 
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Northwind said:
There's no ridiculously far left around. Most is quite right leaning...... I'm still waiting for evidence of the mythical "Liberal Media" I keep hearing about. (just in case you want to accuse me of falling for that or the fake news, or whatever.....)
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I keep forgetting, it's like you are on this train. You can't see anything. But everybody else can see where it's going.


 
If you see the below response to President Trump as somewhat normal, you are on that train. It is a shocking response to someone who is not on the train.

If you put your kid in swimming lessons and then stood on the sidelines and shreaked "She's going to drown, she's going to drown" for the next half hour...

That's Rosie, that's Kimmio, that's chansen, that's the people on the train. Not a sane response, but something injected into their brains by mind control. MSM.



 
In a world where emotional response, denial of knowledge ... and living in the dark of a loss of slaughtered light (lam 've God) is wisdom definitively off the rails of those set in their way? Double irony ...
 
Northwind said:
There's no ridiculously far left around. Most is quite right leaning...... I'm still waiting for evidence of the mythical "Liberal Media" I keep hearing about. (just in case you want to accuse me of falling for that or the fake news, or whatever.....)
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How did the Canadian media treat Harper, Trudeau? The same way you would. You have been inoculated by the MSM and you just think it is normal. That's how it looks on the train.

Rosie thinks it is totally normal and acceptable to hate white males. Profiling and discrimination is wrong, unless it is against the people who deserve it. Who deserves it? Trump for sure, all his deplorables, Christians.
 
All media is biased, because humans are involved. The goal should be to wade through various sources with different perspectives and make informed decisions. What truly amuses me is what seems to be the assumption by many on the right that the so-called MSM is biased, and the truth comes from conservative media - as if conservative media isn't equally biased, or perhaps more biased. What conservatives really object to is that the bulk of the population find the so-called MSM media the most reliable. It bothers them so much that they then have to attack those who choose the so-called MSM, as for example, the suggestion that users of the so-called MSM are "brain-washed."
 
chansen has his list memorized, think of it as a song. The only song they played over and over 24 hours a day for the whole election and beyond.

This whole thread is parrots trying to imitate MSM.
It is cute. But there is a whole world out there being hidden from them. And they are being told not to go there because it is fake news. Good little parrots.


 
Try some H. A. Goodman. Definitely not right wing. Bernie supporter. Has some really good eye opening YouTube videos. It is possible for left or right to be honest.

There are tons of compilation videos about the proven lies you have been fed by MSM as well. But even if you tried to watch them, you could not, because you are trained to never look at anything critically. Except of course those hot elements like Donald Trump.
 
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