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Reading a good textbook on the subject of youth ministry. In a church youth should never be LAST.
 
Jae said:
Reading a good textbook on the subject of youth ministry. In a church youth should never be LAST.
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Relax Jae they grow out of stupidity ... somewhere about 12-16 women get it ... men about the age of crisis ... then they know if they don't screw up they'll never learn anything ... tis an experience ... some say critical!

It is sloe in some ... more of a rush-in other ... always the other's fault as an Este-rael sticking point ... sometimes called St Eroid and worth a leer or 2! The second appearance may give you a clue ...
 
Luce NDs said:
Relax Jae they grow out of stupidity ... somewhere about 12-16 women get it ... men about the age of crisis ... then they know if they don't screw up they'll never learn anything ... tis an experience ... some say critical!

It is sloe in some ... more of a rush-in other ... always the other's fault as an Este-rael sticking point ... sometimes called St Eroid and worth a leer or 2! The second appearance may give you a clue ...
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Yes there certainly does seem that, n general, girls mature faster/sooner than us guys. Youth ministry so casually quit n ntre sting thing. My really noting that course. N a list for courses V taken note my cade mic life, the certainly would not come LAST.
 
Jae said:
Reading a good textbook on the subject of youth ministry. In a church youth should never be LAST.
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They are the future of the church, whatever church that may be. That said, kids do tend to drift away for a while once they leave home, but some will come back at LAST if they have been well served.
 
Mendalla said:
They are the future of the church, whatever church that may be. That said, kids do tend to drift away for a while once they leave home, but some will come back at LAST if they have been well served.
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I've heard it often said that youth are the future of the church - and I think that that's one reason why they drift away. As long as adults see them as just the future, they can put off taking them into due consideration in the present. Listening to them in the present. Truly caring about them in the present. Thus I feel that youth should be considered to now be the church - or at least a very real current part of it. Anyway, it's a good book I'm reading. I'm almost at its LAST.
 
Immersion in life is critical ... if they are to relate pain, leaning and increasing wisdom ...

Past generations have relied on emotions: fear, anger and hate alone ... if you've noticed.

I've been declared a subhuman character in church for years because of a questioning wisdom pilgrimage ... some call it seeking what's missing here ... there are some undercutting comments in the "Book" like God's condemnation of Judean-Hebrew populations ... something one must dig into to understand KJ corruption thereof ...

Some say this is Job's Tory ... his hidden power ... quite subtle really!
 
Just for a clear picture, who should be last in the church ministry? (Skip the modest "the minister should be last". Or tell us who should be second to last.)
 
Jae said:
I've heard it often said that youth are the future of the church - and I think that that's one reason why they drift away. As long as adults see them as just the future, they can put off taking them into due consideration in the present. Listening to them in the present. Truly caring about them in the present. Thus I feel that youth should be considered to now be the church - or at least a very real current part of it. Anyway, it's a good book I'm reading. I'm almost at its LAST.
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Unfortunately, in my Christian days, the minister pretty much ignored the youth group (though his daughter, my age, was in it so he probably got intel from her) outside of confirmation class. Not sure if his successor (the one I helped find) was better since I was out of the youth by then. And that was the LAST minister the church had while I was connected to it (they've been through a few since).
 
Our best minister for the youth - when I was a youth - ended up being one of our worst ministers overall.
 
BethAnne said:
Our best minister for the youth - when I was a youth - ended up being one of our worst ministers overall.
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There are some ministers who should probably specialize (e.g. become Youth Pastors or Christian Development Ministers or whatever) and don't and some who do specialize who would probably make good general purpose ministers. It comes down to failing to discern their own talents and interests, I think. Which, you would hope, would be part of their education and ongoing support from their denomination.
 
BethAnne said:
Our best minister for the youth - when I was a youth - ended up being one of our worst ministers overall.
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That's very possible. Too often Christian leaders and/or their churches see working with youth as a step-up to working with adults. In evangelical churches, youth pastors so often get "promoted" to being senior pastors. In a lot of cases, I think it's kind of a sad thing.
 
Mendalla said:
There are some ministers who should probably specialize (e.g. become Youth Pastors or Christian Development Ministers or whatever) and don't and some who do specialize who would probably make good general purpose ministers. It comes down to failing to discern their own talents and interests, I think. Which, you would hope, would be part of their education and ongoing support from their denomination.
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It's all about the call.
 
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