Are we worthy? Of what?

[chansen]

Airclean--post
Hi Seeler-- Up to were I underlined . I am in agreement with you. Do you know Mars tempt has climbed 10 degrees in the last 10 years? Must be all that traffic up there. God controls what will be!. At one time there was 150 ft of ice were I sett today. We are in a warming trend just now, and have been for a wile. Even so , I would agree we have to much pollution made by humankind.

Ever look into why some ice us melting on Mars? Or do you just listen to idiots who use this basic fact to try to discredit the work of climatologists?

Here's a nice explanation of why Mars could be warming:
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.html

In short, Mars has recurring dust storms larger than all of Africa. The dust absorbs more of the sun's energy, warming the planet.

How do you think that applies to Earth? Because it doesn't.

That NASA piece is from 2007. We've known this for almost a decade, and yet people will post it like it disproves climate change on Earth. It's just another bit if micropropaganda, shared by people who want to discredit scientists.

Once again, science doesn't agree with you, so you go after it with mistruths.

Every time you read something like this, that really looks like a slam dunk in your favour thay demolishes the scientific consensus, do some digging.

 

[Luce NDs]

Science is sheer idiocy to those that know everything (god complex?) !

Thank god for mortal (limited) thoughts as isolated here! Out there things are more extensive ...

 

[Neo]

If one sees God in relationship, God is in relationship with all creation. If one sees God as loving the world, God is in loving relationship with all creation.
Then God loves humans, homo sapiens. But God also loves our coousins, the great apes -- and the dogs, cats, elephants, eagles, whales and fishes, and the misquitos and worms and all that lives.
God loves the trees (so do I), the forests, the fields and flowers.
God also loves the inanimate things in creation - the earth, air and water. I can imagine Godd's sorrow at the melting of the icecaps and the suffering that results when things get out of balance.

We "live" in the body of God. Love for all beings in matter, therefore, would have to be implied then. Unless God hates parts of Himself, i.e. those parts that are still unconscious and unthinking.

 

[Luce NDs]

"Body of God" ... everything inclusive except those isolated by walls of disbelieve in larger things and energies ... yet mysterious and dark to those eliminating the occult and occipital (backside of the brain ... in recesses)! Thus trans disposition as it bounces back out ... In Diana's rub ... Ur own satyr?

Men of power fall for ID ... then there are floaters ... buoyed by less dense thoughts ... beyond the stoned condition? OBI ...

 

[airclean33]

Ever look into why some ice us melting on Mars? Or do you just listen to idiots who use this basic fact to try to discredit the work of climatologists?

Here's a nice explanation of why Mars could be warming:
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.html

Airclean-post -- Hi Chansen --May be ? Could be? This is all the data they seem to have . Same here on earth . On Mars now they say it's the wind . Are you now agree with me when I say GOD is in charge? Because as far as I know , Man dose not control the wind, or the sun.

In short, Mars has recurring dust storms larger than all of Africa. The dust absorbs more of the sun's energy, warming the planet.

Airclean as I said above GOD.



How do you think that applies to Earth? Because it doesn't.

Airclean- Really you can see were GOD put earth from the sun . And were He put Mars.

That NASA piece is from 2007. We've known this for almost a decade, and yet people will post it like it disproves climate change on Earth. It's just another bit if micropropaganda, shared by people who want to discredit scientists.

Airclean--I have found no proof were it shows Mankind for sure" is warring the earth. Science says we think, Could be, I believe Global warming" is being use to make money. That the earth is warming is very true . But it was doing so long before Man.

Once again, science doesn't agree with you, so you go after it with mistruths.

Airclean--No Chansen you don't agree with me. Science don't disagree because a Woman or Man may tomorrow prove it different . So they say Could Be, Maybe.


Every time you read something like this, that really looks like a slam dunk in your favour thay demolishes the scientific consensus, do some digging.

--Seek an you will find" Knock and The Door will be opened. That's from a Guy that Knows all things.

 

[Neo]

--Seek an you will find" Knock and The Door will be opened. That's from a Guy that Knows all things.

"Seeking" is what science does.

 

[airclean33]

"Seeking" is what science does.

--WHY???

 

[Neo]

--WHY???

Why does science seek answers? Because our race is becoming less focussed on the astral-desire plane of our being and beginning to focus on the mental aspect of our being. Not everyone of course, the vast majority of our world today is still focused on the emotional plane. But this will change and is changing now before our very eyes. Eventually, in the centuries to come, even the mind will be overshadowed by an even higher aspect of our being, and that is the plane of "intuition". No longer we will rely on "feeling" something is the truth, or "thinking" something is the truth. Eventually mankind will simply "know" something is the truth via the intuition.

 

[chansen]

--WHY???

Science follows the evidence where it leads. Your version of Christianity provides answers and ignores any evidence that doesn't conform.

 

[Luce NDs]

--WHY???

Because the bible says to question all things ... however in conflict with those that say you are not to question God ... an all-inclusive concept that causes chaos in those that do not appreciate the puzzles of ambiguity and paradox developed to keep us from finding where God recessed to ...

Possibly God buried itself in word as a subliminal form ... in a story it would cause interest and curios ...

 

[airclean33]

Why does science seek answers? Because our race is becoming less focussed on the astral-desire plane of our being and beginning to focus on the mental aspect of our being. Not everyone of course, the vast majority of our world today is still focused on the emotional plane. But this will change and is changing now before our very eyes. Eventually, in the centuries to come, even the mind will be overshadowed by an even higher aspect of our being, and that is the plane of "intuition". No longer we will rely on "feeling" something is the truth, or "thinking" something is the truth. Eventually mankind will simply "know" something is the truth via the intuition.

--True Man seeks answers . But with the mind of man, This has always let man down. Mans mind is against GOD. It is the reason you go to Hell. We must understand things through GODS mind. Would it not seem reasonable to go to the person who made all things for understanding? Besides with science saying , it could be, it may be, and have also shown many times "they have been mistaken!. For many years later another man finds something different. I myself will believe He who dose not make mistakes, or out right lies.

 

[airclean33]

By the way Neo . my Bible dose not show life as you post . But life is GOD living with us, and always walking with us. We are family are one with GOD as our Lord Christ prayed.

 

[Neo]

--True Man seeks answers . But with the mind of man, This has always let man down. Mans mind is against GOD. It is the reason you go to Hell.

Seriously? How do tell time without the mind? How do you drive? How do you function in life without the mind? Without the mind we are like vegetables.

We must understand things through GODS mind. Would it not seem reasonable to go to the person who made all things for understanding? Besides with science saying , it could be, it may be, and have also shown many times "they have been mistaken!. For many years later another man finds something different. I myself will believe He who dose not make mistakes, or out right lies.

We are created in image of God, or did you forget. Our mind is a reflection of the mind of God.

Science today has a pretty good grasp on how the physical world works. It now has to infuse the spirit into that thinking, for mind without spirit is the danger you speak of above. The mind, says the ancient wisdom, is the "slayer of the real", for without some kind of control over our thoughts, we are subject to the illusions of the mind. This does not mean we should ignore or bypass the mind. It just means we should attempt some control over our thoughts. Without this control our thoughts are like wild horses, ravaging the landscape of our being. This is the same with our emotions, we have to take some manner of control over our emotions, less they drown us in glamour.

 

[Neo]

By the way Neo . my Bible dose not show life as you post . But life is GOD living with us, and always walking with us. We are family are one with GOD as our Lord Christ prayed.

Your Bible doesn't mention electrons either but you have no problem using a computer.

But seriously, the Bible does mention these things, just not the way I post it. Think about the 3 wise men at the birth of Christ, the 3 temptations of Christ in desert, the 3 chosen disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration, the 3 crosses on Calvary. These all represent the 3 aspects of our personality, e.g. the physical, the emotional and the mental aspects of our being. It's the personality we leave on the cross. We do this by "infusing" the personality into the Soul.

We are made up of two inherent triplicities:

1. A lower triplicity: made up of a personality comprised of a physical body - an astral body - a concrete mind.
2. Three periodical vehicles: the Spiritual Monad - the Soul (aka abstract Mind) - the Personality.​

When the Soul and the personality have made contact the person is said to be technically "soul-infused", e.g. a coordinated personally which is now fully receptive of spiritual energies (and not just the energies of the three worlds of form).

You won't find these words per say in the Bible, but that doesn't mean this teaching is missing. It just means you haven't seen it yet. The wisdom is there, you just need the eyes to see and the ears to hear.

 

[airclean33]

Hi Neo--What you post in #74 shows how different we believe.
I believe GODS word says we our of two parts. Body and soul, when we become follows of Christ we become 3 with GODS Holy Spirit as our third part . Look to GODS word .1-Corinthians-15: 44 There is a Physical body, there also is a Spiritual body of man. Where do you think you came from!. God new you at the beginning, what"s wrong Neo, don't you understand? It is by the spirit of GOD you will know . For there is no understanding with out it.

 

[Luce NDs]

--True Man seeks answers . But with the mind of man, This has always let man down. Mans mind is against GOD. It is the reason you go to Hell. We must understand things through GODS mind. Would it not seem reasonable to go to the person who made all things for understanding? Besides with science saying , it could be, it may be, and have also shown many times "they have been mistaken!. For many years later another man finds something different. I myself will believe He who dose not make mistakes, or out right lies.

Gods have no sol???? Thus god sol is thus eliminated ... Piscine off with the fish!

 

[Neo]

Hi Neo--What you post in #74 shows how different we believe.
I believe GODS word says we our of two parts. Body and soul, when we become follows of Christ we become 3 with GODS Holy Spirit as our third part . Look to GODS word .1-Corinthians-15: 44 There is a Physical body, there also is a Spiritual body of man. Where do you think you came from!.

Yup, we can definitely agree on something, and that is that we definitely believe differently.

I personally believe you have totally misunderstood 1 Corinthians-15: 44. Yes, the body is "sown in decay", a claim which modern day science agrees with since it claims that all matter in form is in a constant state of something it calls "atrophy", which means that all matter in form is in a constant state of deterioration and decay. Without the energy of life the body decays. But the words "a spiritual body is raised", as Paul describes it, could just as easily be interpreted as "awareness", for in awareness the raising of a spiritual body is revealed to us. Think about this. Without awareness "the natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them ..", 1 Corinthians 2 14. This claim is supported elsewhere in the Bible, indicating that spirit has always existed in both God and man; it's not something that is simply "given to us" because we follow Christ. Paul knew this when he prayed that the "whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord", 1 Thessalonians 5:23.

Spirit, in it's most mundane definition, is "energy". All matter is made up of sub-atomic particles of charged energy, therefore matter in form is nothing but a kind of "frozen energy". Without the energy of life the body of form quickly begins to decay and fall apart. It takes energy to maintain form. Without energy the form falls back to it's basic parts.

Spirit, in it's Biblical definition, is that elusive thing the Greeks called "pneuma" and what the Hebrews called "ruach". Both words literally meaning "wind" or "breath" of life. Spirit is that elusive force that gives life to all living things. Without spirit, the form returns to the earth and the spirit-energy-breath returns to God, see Ecclesiastes 12:7 . "Without spirit, the body is dead", James 2:26. Spirit is the polar opposite of matter, where spirit (energy) is formless and matter (the body) is form.

Soul, on the other hand, is that intermediate between spirit and matter and is often mixed up with the word spirit. The Greeks called soul the "psyche", the mind of man, whereas the Hebrews called it "nephesh", the living or breathing being. Soul is the life of spirit in physical form. Think about this. It is the agency of how spirit manifests into form and becomes aware of the body of form. The soul, in this context, is therefore representative of the Christ aspect, the intermediate between God and man. Paul knew this when he said "Christ in you, the hope and glory", Colossians 1:27

So we have a trinity of forces: the body (soma-matter), the soul (psyche-mind), and the spirit (pneuma-breath).

The Tibetan says the following of the interrelationship between body, soul and spirit:

"Matter is the vehicle for the manifestation of soul on this plane of existence, and soul is the vehicle on a higher plane for the manifestation of spirit, and these three are a trinity synthesized by life, which pervades them all. Through the use of matter the soul unfolds and finds its climax in the soul of man."
- The Master DK.

"The goal of realization for man is consciousness of the nature of the Soul, the medium through which the Spirit aspect ever works"
- Ibid

The Bible says that spirit exists in all of us and that in spirit (and not body or the mind) we should worship God. Meaning that spirit exists in man even before he begins to worship, and is not something simply given to him at a later date. It is something that we discover through awareness.

"God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
- John 4:24

 

[Luce NDs]

Such belief systems create business for institutions doing etudes on comparative religions ... and then there are those that didn't desire to know in the first place ... then second is beta ... and you stand back and see what trouble they've initiated ...

The pane of learning when out of here? Some say heaven is an imaginary state ... a mire state of mind ... the if the mind, soul psyche is non existent; is it a whisp of stinking strange Eire ... a mire incarnate (appears as isn't) thing?

 

[airclean33]

Yup, we can definitely agree on something, and that is that we definitely believe differently.

Aircleanpost--Well at least this is one place we agree. Perhaps there are others?

I personally believe you have totally misunderstood 1 Corinthians-15: 44. Yes, the body is "sown in decay", a claim which modern day science agrees with since it claims that all matter in form is in a constant state of something it calls "atrophy", which means that all matter in form is in a constant state of deterioration and decay. Without the energy of life the body decays.

Airclean-post--Not all things were meant to be that way, I mean Man was sett above animals. I not think Adam was made to die. GOD condemned it later ,after Adams sin. You are right about the body still now dies. But those who have Christ , there Spirit can not die . So they are save from the second death Hell

Neo--
But the words "a spiritual body is raised", as Paul describes it, could just as easily be interpreted as "awareness", for in awareness the raising of a spiritual body is revealed to us. Think about this. Without awareness "the natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them ..", 1 Corinthians 2 14.

Airclean--post--
But the Bible dose not say awareness. It says SPIRIT. Well you are here on earth you are call a child of Man. why because you are of flesh and blood , that is what you as a Human were born of. John 1-13 Tells me , when I accept The Lord Jesus Christ , I am no longer of flesh an blood . But I am boon of GOD who I believe is Spirit. All Glory Is His.

Neo--
This claim is supported elsewhere in the Bible, indicating that spirit has always existed in both God and man; it's not something that is simply "given to us" because we follow Christ.

Airclean--post--
I have ask you before, were do you believe we came from , before we were put into the body. For GOD said I knew you before you were born an the earth was made. Your science have claim this earth is hundreds of thousands of years old. I believe it may well be. GOD said" I new you before the earth was formed. Who are you?

Neo-post--
Paul knew this when he prayed that the "whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord", 1 Thessalonians 5:23.

Airclean--post--
Here again Neo you seem to be getting it mixed again. AS a living save living person of Christ. We are expected to to keep are wanton flesh in check. Are thoughts also must be kept under control. Peter new even though saved" . He could be tricked into doing wrong . As Paul showed him.

Neo--
Spirit, in it's most mundane definition, is "energy". All matter is made up of sub-atomic particles of charged energy, therefore matter in form is nothing but a kind of "frozen energy". Without the energy of life the body of form quickly begins to decay and fall apart. It takes energy to maintain form. Without energy the form falls back to it's basic parts.

Airclean--post--
First I don't believe you" or any one else knows what the Spirit is maid of.
When The Spirit, leaves the body dies. agreed. But we are told the life of the body is blood. Many have had a out of the body experience and yet the body did not die.

Neo--post--
Spirit, in it's Biblical definition, is that elusive thing the Greeks called "pneuma" and what the Hebrews called "ruach". Both words literally meaning "wind" or "breath" of life. Spirit is that elusive force that gives life to all living things. Without spirit, the form returns to the earth and the spirit-energy-breath returns to God, see Ecclesiastes 12:7 . "Without spirit, the body is dead", James 2:26. Spirit is the polar opposite of matter, where spirit (energy) is formless and matter (the body) is form.

Airclean--post--
I have agreed that the body without the spirit is dead.

Neo--post--
Soul, on the other hand, is that intermediate between spirit and matter and is often mixed up with the word spirit. The Greeks called soul the "psyche", the mind of man, whereas the Hebrews called it "nephesh", the living or breathing being. Soul is the life of spirit in physical form. Think about this.

Airclean--post--Did you not read what GOD said , I sent you 1Cor 15:44.
There is a Physical Body, and a Spirit Body". .I see nothing of a soul body. So as I have said before spirit and soul, are one an the same . I know you are trying to show here. who you are is the soul . I call it your spirit. We also receive a gift from GOD His Spirit" to be with us for ever. We will also have a Body that is Pure , Because it is of Christ Jesus. but not in this life .


Jeo--post--
It is the agency of how spirit manifests into form and becomes aware of the body of form. The soul, in this context, is therefore representative of the Christ aspect, the intermediate between God and man. Paul knew this when he said "Christ in you, the hope and glory", Colossians 1:27

Airclean--post
Do you understand Paul is talking to the church, that is to those who have received Christ Jesus as Lord? Colossians 1:2. he was not speaking to the world.

Neo--post
So we have a trinity of forces: the body (soma-matter), the soul (psyche-mind), and the spirit (pneuma-breath).

The Tibetan says the following of the interrelationship between body, soul and spirit:

Airclean --post--This may be , as I am not Tibetan follower.

Neo--posted--
"Matter is the vehicle for the manifestation of soul on this plane of existence, and soul is the vehicle on a higher plane for the manifestation of spirit, and these three are a trinity synthesized by life, which pervades them all. Through the use of matter the soul unfolds and finds its climax in the soul of man."
- The Master DK.

Airclean--post--
It would seem your Master DK has no room for Christ Jesus.

Neo--post
"The goal of realization for man is consciousness of the nature of the Soul, the medium through which the Spirit aspect ever works"
- Ibid

Airclean--post --
That's your belief , fine Neo. I am not of that belief.

Neo--post--
The Bible says that spirit exists in all of us and that in spirit (and not body or the mind) we should worship God. Meaning that spirit exists in man even before he begins to worship, and is not something simply given to him at a later date. It is something that we discover through awareness.

Airclean--post --
Yes Neo , as I'v said man is Spirt and flesh. This is the spirit of who you are. It is a living thing . This is you "that has been condemned to hell because of your sin. Your flesh was already condemned in Gen. Christ never came to save your flesh, He came to save your Spirit . I believe because it is a part of GOD.

Neo--post--
"God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
- John 4:24

--Of course Spirit must become born again , or made a new by the blood of Christ Jesus--All Glory Is Gods . Me I am just a sinner saved by Grace. GOD be with you Neo. airclean33 Gord.

 

[Neo]

Neo said: ↑

Yup, we can definitely agree on something, and that is that we definitely believe differently.
Aircleanpost--Well at least this is one place we agree. Perhaps there are others?

There are lots of things we could agree on Airclean, but (I believe) your insistence of denying facts that lay before your very eyes are blinding you to from seeing a greater truth. As does your insistence that the Bible “is the only source of truth”. Your claims, and I'm paraphrasing here, that "if something is not in the Bible then it must be a lie" makes no sense. As I suggested above, the Bible doesn’t mention electrons but you have no problem turning your computer on and electronically posting your words around the world.

One of the root problems that plagues Christianity today (I believe) lay in the fact that the early Church made claim that the sixty-six books in the Bible were the only true Scripture inspired by God. This puts Christians in a difficult place where they feel compelled to deny the wisdom of the Buddha or the Bhagavad Gita, etc. Which is too bad because all the great scriptures of history are based on the same truth: i.e. the Esoteric Wisdom, which is a body of wisdom that predates all religions and of which all religions are based upon. Paul, in Colossians 1-26, refers to this specialized wisdom as the “mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the Lord’s people”. The New Testament also makes several references to a "secret" religion, one where the light is hidden in the darkness. e.g. Matt 6:4-6 ; Rom 2:16 ; 1 Cor 4:5 ; 1 Cor 14:25 ; Heb 4:13.

The teachings themselves deals with the very fabric of life itself, as our own being becomes the "truth", the path through which truth eventually becomes written and woven into our very basic constitution. But if all you have is the exoteric theology that the Church has given out then you are missing so much. The Esoteric or Ancient Wisdom is now out and in the open for all to see, if one has the eyes to see and ears to hear. It's such a shame, however, that so many books still lay on the shelf unread. I believe this will change soon, however, as people all around the world are beginning to awaken spiritually.

Neo said: ↑
I personally believe you have totally misunderstood 1 Corinthians-15: 44. Yes, the body is "sown in decay", a claim which modern day science agrees with since it claims that all matter in form is in a constant state of something it calls "atrophy", which means that all matter in form is in a constant state of deterioration and decay. Without the energy of life the body decays.

Airclean-post--Not all things were meant to be that way, I mean Man was sett above animals. I not think Adam was made to die. GOD condemned it later ,after Adams sin. You are right about the body still now dies. But those who have Christ , there Spirit can not die . So they are save from the second death Hell

As you know I don’t believe in a literal hell, with the possible exception of the life we are living now, as we "suffer like children" to our destination.

Man was “set above the animals” because we are above the animals on the evolutionary scale, just as the animals are above the vegetables and the latter are above the rocks in the mineral kingdom. I know many believe that animals and humans are part of the same kingdom, but I don't believe that. I see a distinct difference between humans and animals. Man will eventually give way to the next kingdom to manifest, and that is the Kingdom of God, also known as the 5th Kingdom of Souls where "intuition" takes precedence over the "thinker".

Neo said: ↑

But the words "a spiritual body is raised", as Paul describes it, could just as easily be interpreted as "awareness", for in awareness the raising of a spiritual body is revealed to us. Think about this. Without awareness "the natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them ..", 1 Corinthians 2 14.

Airclean--post--

But the Bible dose not say awareness. It says SPIRIT. Well you are here on earth you are call a child of Man. why because you are of flesh and blood , that is what you as a Human were born of. John 1-13 Tells me , when I accept The Lord Jesus Christ , I am no longer of flesh an blood . But I am boon of GOD who I believe is Spirit. All Glory Is His.

No, the Bible doesn't say “awareness” because the word simply wasn’t around in those days. But it does use the words "... he is not able to understand them", which sounds a lot like "awareness" to me.

Neo said: ↑

This claim is supported elsewhere in the Bible, indicating that spirit has always existed in both God and man; it's not something that is simply "given to us" because we follow Christ.

Airclean--post--

I have ask you before, were do you believe we came from , before we were put into the body. For GOD said I knew you before you were born an the earth was made. Your science have claim this earth is hundreds of thousands of years old. I believe it may well be. GOD said" I new you before the earth was formed. Who are you?

Where do I believe we came from before we were “put into the body”? We are Spirits in a material world, to quote an old song from the 1970’s. We are Souls having a dream of being in a material world.

Just as we go to sleep every night and die a little to this world, only to re-awaken again the next morning, so does the Soul, on a greater turn of the wheel, experience this world. Our whole life is but a day in the life of the Soul. At the end of our lives, when we die to this world, we actually awaken to another world, a world that death can't touch. Kind of like how one emerges from under water to above the surface and into the air, a different plane of existence. Our old life then will seem more and more like a dream as it passes away.

Neo said: ↑

Spirit, in it's most mundane definition, is "energy". All matter is made up of sub-atomic particles of charged energy, therefore matter in form is nothing but a kind of "frozen energy". Without the energy of life the body of form quickly begins to decay and fall apart. It takes energy to maintain form. Without energy the form falls back to it's basic parts.

Airclean--post--

First I don't believe you" or any one else knows what the Spirit is maid of.

When The Spirit, leaves the body dies. agreed. But we are told the life of the body is blood. Many have had a out of the body experience and yet the body did not die.

You don’t believe that spirit and energy are synonymous terms? That’s fine… but the fact is that “energy” can’t be created or destroyed, which sounds a bit like the eternal nature of spirit. The word spirit is also by definition associated with the word energy, as in “a spirited horse”.

Neo said: ↑

Soul, on the other hand, is that intermediate between spirit and matter and is often mixed up with the word spirit. The Greeks called soul the "psyche", the mind of man, whereas the Hebrews called it "nephesh", the living or breathing being. Soul is the life of spirit in physical form. Think about this.

Airclean--post--Did you not read what GOD said , I sent you 1Cor 15:44.

There is a Physical Body, and a Spirit Body". .I see nothing of a soul body. So as I have said before spirit and soul, are one an the same . I know you are trying to show here. who you are is the soul . I call it your spirit. We also receive a gift from GOD His Spirit" to be with us for ever. We will also have a Body that is Pure , Because it is of Christ Jesus. but not in this life .

I can understand how you may think that spirit and soul are the same thing. A lot of people do.

Neo said: ↑

It is the agency of how spirit manifests into form and becomes aware of the body of form. The soul, in this context, is therefore representative of the Christ aspect, the intermediate between God and man. Paul knew this when he said "Christ in you, the hope and glory", Colossians 1:27

Airclean--post

Do you understand Paul is talking to the church, that is to those who have received Christ Jesus as Lord? Colossians 1:2. he was not speaking to the world.

Yes, “the Church”, which is another term for the community of souls on this Earth who are, at one stage or another, on the return path. This Great Church Invisible does not recognize theology or creed, however, it’s composed of all the Souls who are swept by the desire to serve and love. These are attributes that cross the boundaries of theology.

Neo said: ↑

"Matter is the vehicle for the manifestation of soul on this plane of existence, and soul is the vehicle on a higher plane for the manifestation of spirit, and these three are a trinity synthesized by life, which pervades them all. Through the use of matter the soul unfolds and finds its climax in the soul of man."
- The Master DK.

Airclean--post--
It would seem your Master DK has no room for Christ Jesus.

You make this statement because the Master DK doesn’t mention “Christ Jesus” in every sentence? The Master DK is but a student of the Christ. The Christ is the Master of Masters.

"He is the World Teacher and not a Christian teacher. He Himself told us that He had other folds, and to them He has meant as much as He has meant to the orthodox Christian. They may not call Him Christ, but they have their own name for Him and follow Him as truly and faithfully as their Western brethren."
- from the book The Reappearance of Christ by Alice Bailey and the Master DK.

Neo said: ↑

The Bible says that spirit exists in all of us and that in spirit (and not body or the mind) we should worship God. Meaning that spirit exists in man even before he begins to worship, and is not something simply given to him at a later date. It is something that we discover through awareness.

Airclean--post --

Yes Neo , as I'v said man is Spirt and flesh. This is the spirit of who you are. It is a living thing . This is you "that has been condemned to hell because of your sin. Your flesh was already condemned in Gen. Christ never came to save your flesh, He came to save your Spirit . I believe because it is a part of GOD.

Actually, you said (here: ↑ ) that “we our of two parts. Body and soul, when we become follows of Christ we become 3 with GODS Holy Spirit as our third part “. How then can spirit and soul be "one an the same", as you described them above, if we don’t become this “third part” until we become followers of Christ? Your logic is failing here. How can Christ save your spirit if you don't have a spirit until you follow Christ?

Christ can only "save your Spirit" by making you aware that you even have a Spirit, or more accurately that the Spirit has you because you and me and everyone else are but dim reflections of Spirit, created in the image thereof. We perfect this image by first being aware of it, and then by living a life of honesty, sincerity and detachment - the lines of least resistance to being human. Our Spirit is saved when it has gone beyond the "wheel of necessity", aka the "wheel of rebirth". We do this by aligning our lower self with that of our higher Self.

I know you and I don't see eye to eye Airclean, but it's always fun to spar with you. Happy New Year.