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chansen said:
She only gets publicity because Christians go apeshit over the word. Not believing is fine, but an atheist?!?

It makes no damn sense.
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Waterfall said:
Is it okay if someone goes to your house and preaches the gospel every week? Or your daughters school?
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How does that address my point at all? She's not preaching in your house, your church, or a school. That was a complete red herring.
 
chansen said:
How does that address my point at all? She's not preaching in your house, your church, or a school. That was a complete red herring.
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She's preaching in the homes of the nation when she's interviewed on CBC's The National.
 
Waterfall said:
She is speaking in God's house.
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Oh ffs. If you're going to say that the supernatural, all-powerful deity in which she does not believe, owns her church and does not want her preaching in it, then why does this all-powerful deity call on a bunch of whiners to stop her? Can he not gather a more powerful force? Maybe some bears? At least an angry beaver. Come on.
 
Pr. Jae said:
She's preaching in the homes of the nation when she's interviewed on CBC's The National.
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The media follows the stories people show interest in. Christians get worked up over this and can't help reading, watching, and commenting. Gretta is hardly a blip on atheist websites. They mostly think she should walk away. The interest is driven by Christians.

Christians are literally giving her a national pulpit. Then they complain when she uses it.
 
chansen said:
The media follows the stories people show interest in. Christians get worked up over this and can't help reading, watching, and commenting. Gretta is hardly a blip on atheist websites. They mostly think she should walk away. The interest is driven by Christians.
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That has a ring of truth to it.

chansen said:
Christians are literally giving her a national pulpit. Then they complain when she uses it.
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The CBC is a secular news source.
 
Again, the CBC follows stories. This is a story. It is a story because Christians. If Christians ignored her, no story. Because they make it a big deal, she gets more attention, and more support.

If the UCCan were media savvy at all, they could leverage this coverage into more exposure for themselves. Instead, they have no public face on this, no voice, and so they leave it to the idiots among them to raise their fists and yell at clouds online.

It's like the UCCan has no media strategy at all. I thought it was just social media, but they have no clue what to do with any media.
 
chansen said:
Again, the CBC follows stories. This is a story. It is a story because Christians. If Christians ignored her, no story. Because they make it a big deal, she gets more attention, and more support.

If the UCCan were media savvy at all, they could leverage this coverage into more exposure for themselves. Instead, they have no public face on this, no voice, and so they leave it to the idiots among them to raise their fists and yell at clouds online.

It's like the UCCan has no media strategy at all. I thought it was just social media, but they have no clue what to do with any media.
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Are they idiots because you disagree?
 
Dunno if Christians are driving the media coverage or not. The idea of an atheist minister in a Christian denomination is enough of an oddity that it plays out as a special interest story in the secular media.
 
chansen said:
It's like the UCCan has no media strategy at all. I thought it was just social media, but they have no clue what to do with any media.
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Gotta agree when it comes to social media. . . just think back to the United Future fiasco of a site.
 
Waterfall said:
She is speaking in God's house.
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She's speaking in one of the houses of The United Church of Canada.

When it comes to questions of doctrine and belief, the polity and structure of the UCCan is clear - it is the General Council (through the remit process) that decides what the doctrine of the United Church is, and also names what skills, abilities, educational process, and beliefs are expected of its ministers.
 
Does anyone besides me find "belief" a rather involuntary process? (In a "one of these things is not like the other" way?)
 
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