What Are The Building Blocks Of Our Faith ?

[Luce NDs]

Didn't Noah become a drunk after the flood? And wasnt Abraham a liar and a schemer?
I realize God can use anyone, but lets be real....so people can relate more.

Reality doesn't count when you find people like Noah following Charles Baudelaire on the topic of Being Drunk! It is an interesting perspective if you consider whine, poetry, virtue and good women along with a decent song or two ...

In the after math we may only be able to mingle silently ... after we've passed over the troubled wa' terres part ... with enough emotion they'll split the difference ... all shall be whetted in the end ... considerably sharpened?

 

[Luce NDs]

Does God have a supreme abstract to begin with so that persona can create something out of the dark and formless?

Sounds like a whale singing in the deeps for a companion ... perhaps indigo like sad or distraught DNA!

Perhaps we could dream up a story to match what we yet don't know ... not quite there yet ah bi ... or yeti buoy!

Odd what one can do with word as an idealism of expression ... so diverse in use depending on traditions of screwing up a vacant virtue ... non-things we don't have ... pseudonym for intelligence that is out-there ... for those still mentally Kahn 't?

Anybody read that book called Nonsense? It is a great read on po'lyre understood mental functions than you may ever encounter ... at least while in a confined state due to general terrorism about life and even greater stretches of the abstract ...
mental exercise for that which isn't? (approximation of incarnate)!

 

[unsafe]

Here for instance is a scripture -----

Mark 11 GW

Could this scripture show us a building block to increase our faith ------

The Fig Tree Dries Up(D)

20 While Jesus and his disciples were walking early in the morning, they saw that the fig tree had dried up.21 Peter remembered what Jesus had said, so he said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has dried up.”
22 Jesus said to them, “Have faith in God!23 I can guarantee this truth: This is what will be done for someone who doesn’t doubt but believes what he says will happen: He can say to this mountain, ‘Be uprooted and thrown into the sea,’ and it will be done for him.24 That’s why I tell you to have faith that you have already received whatever you pray for, and it will be yours.25 Whenever you pray, forgive anything you have against anyone. Then your Father in heaven will forgive your failures.”

So for instance can speaking be a building block to our Faith walk ???????

What did Jesus do to make the fig tree dry up ------He spoke words to the tree ------can words be faith filled in your opinion ?------

Do we speak our hopes -----hopes are in the future ---we don't see our hope ---so sometimes our hope becomes real and we see our hope manifest in our lives ------how is that ?------- God said ---let there be light -----then what happened -----when we pray do we speak words ------

Do words have producing Faith power ????

 

[Jaebius]

Here for instance is a scripture -----

Mark 11 GW

Could this scripture show us a building block to increase our faith ------

Whose faith?

I believe God can use it to build up our Christian faith, as it contains the Gospel. I'm not sure what its effect would be on those of other faith. They may find some truth in it as well.

Do words have producing Faith power ????

My belief unsafe is that God has faith-producing power.

 

[Luce NDs]

Fig tree dried up ... like the vine of fresh thoughts? Happens when one gets stuck in one book when all there is in the great diversity of them spoken of by the Gospel of John ... in Greek a commoner ... almost pagan!

I think I'd rather be pagan and diverse than an individual slave to some individuals soul ... I'D ever share with some woman with a broad-base of intellect on a variety of stuff ...

Of course stoically, such freedoms are not allowed although the constitution encourages extreme freedom ... only among a select bunch! The rich and powerful scro' whop routinely ... just watch polity and politics ... no means to eM!

If the bible is a common book ... is it too pagan?

 

[unsafe]

Pr. Jae -----Your Quote ----My belief unsafe is that God has faith-producing power.

I agree with this statement -----But it is up to us to build our Faith up in a God we don't see and have Faith in His word that it will produce what God has promised -- God made man -----we are made in His image and likeness ------He spoke words and produced what He said --if we are made in His Image and Likeness then we also can speak and see what we speak ---positive and negative words are powerful and productive ----- we can hinder or build our faith in what we speak ------just my opinion

This is just my view

Bible says life and death are in the power of the tongue -------so for me that says words have power to produce ----they are faith filled ------we have an adversary who wants us to speak words against Faith in God and who wants us to speak words of his fear based words -------so that what we say will come to pass ------either life filled words or fear filled death words ----we have a choice to choose our words ----God has given us His Life filled words ---it is up to us to speak them ------we are made in God's image and likeness ---we have the same power when speaking words as God did when He spoke ---let there be light and then He saw what He said ------

Here we see Job said ---then Satan attacks with God's permission ----Job1 NKJV

For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed[a]God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly.
Satan Attacks Job’s Character


Matthew 12:37ESV --- For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”


The words we speak in my opinion can short circuit our Faith ------or build our Faith in God and His word ----they have power to produce what we speak -----

Proverbs 13:3ESV---Whoever guards his mouth preserves his life; he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

 

[chansen]

Here for instance is a scripture -----

Mark 11 GW

Could this scripture show us a building block to increase our faith ------

The Fig Tree Dries Up(D)

20 While Jesus and his disciples were walking early in the morning, they saw that the fig tree had dried up.21 Peter remembered what Jesus had said, so he said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has dried up.”
22 Jesus said to them, “Have faith in God!23 I can guarantee this truth: This is what will be done for someone who doesn’t doubt but believes what he says will happen: He can say to this mountain, ‘Be uprooted and thrown into the sea,’ and it will be done for him.24 That’s why I tell you to have faith that you have already received whatever you pray for, and it will be yours.25 Whenever you pray, forgive anything you have against anyone. Then your Father in heaven will forgive your failures.”

So for instance can speaking be a building block to our Faith walk ???????

What did Jesus do to make the fig tree dry up ------He spoke words to the tree ------can words be faith filled in your opinion ?------

Do we speak our hopes -----hopes are in the future ---we don't see our hope ---so sometimes our hope becomes real and we see our hope manifest in our lives ------how is that ?------- God said ---let there be light -----then what happened -----when we pray do we speak words ------

Do words have producing Faith power ????

So, to demonstrate the power of faith, God killed a tree. In a story.

I mean, it just does not get less impressive than that. If only he had rid somebody's lawn of grubs, that might be something.

 

[chansen]

Proverbs 13:3ESV---Whoever guards his mouth preserves his life; he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

We really need to change that to Harper 13:3

 

[Luce NDs]

We really need to change that to Harper 13:3

I.E. shad up in the presence of emotional authority ... because they won't know what de "f" is being discussed ... Socrates !

It is just the way it is here and now ... there has to be A' Moor ... this is pure hate ... insanity!

 

[Neo]

KayTheCurler -----could you say a bit more about your original words "What are the building blocks of our faith?"

----Faith comes from God ---- we all have what I call Intellectual Faith ----we believe what we see ---it relies on our 5 senses ----for instance --we believe in our Doctor for healing us through medication prescribed -------this Faith relies on what we see ----this type of Faith doesn't produce it is dead Faith cause we only rely on what we see --feel --touch --taste and smell

Then we can have what I call Faith in a unseen God ---this Faith doesn't rely on what we see ---it relies on what we don't see -----we believe in what God promises in His word will be fulfilled ----this type of Faith Produces what we have yet to see ---this type of Faith is a substance ----this Faith brings our hopes from the unseen into the seen ------Jesus said Blessed are those who believe without seeing ------this Faith comes from us hearing the Gospel and believing what is says will come to pass ----

Then there is Saving Faith ----to have this Faith brings about Salvation and it requires that we believe that Jesus died to free us from Sin and Death and that we will have eternal life as it states in God's word --

So all people have Faith but all do not have the same type of Faith ----Babes in Christ are suppose to mature in their Faith ----so I am asking what are the building blocks of our faith ---how do we get to the type of Faith that Noah and Abraham had ---they had no word to read or go by to build their Faith we have God's word and many of us Christians still have little faith not great faith ---little faith is wavering faith ----like the disciples had many times ---Peter had Great Faith for a second ---he walked on water then lost it ----He lost Focus ----he looked away from Jesus toward the wind ----

So is focus a building block of maturing our faith ----- keeping our focus on God and His the word -----are there certain scripture that can be faith builders ----etc ----

Scripture says ---faith will move mountains -----how many of us have used our faith to remove a mountain in our life ------the mountain being bad situations--problem ---sickness ----etc that comes against us -----The Bible says we have this ability through faith to do so ------ how do we get there -----that is the question ?

I was kind of following you until you said this: "Then there is Saving Faith ----to have this Faith brings about Salvation and it requires that we believe that Jesus died to free us from Sin and Death and that we will have eternal life as it states in God's word --"

Are you saying that in order to believe in the power of an, as yet, unseen God one "requires" a belief in a man-made, Christian-made doctrine?? This is idolatry, making the dogma itself "the" only path to God.

I, like millions of others in this world, personally don't believe in the idea of "original sin" and the "blood sacrifice" for those sins that the theory of atonement demands. Where does that put me? In your belief system does one "have to" believe like you do in order to be saved? Where is that in the Bible?

 

[Luce NDs]

What can one reserve when so much of the eternal is not even touched upon by those that won't get beyond the wee points ...

It is enough to split an attribute of indeterminate origins ... a stranger? The bifurcation of a mine ...

 

[unsafe]

Neo

-----I have no idea what you are talking about ----you follow a whole different religion than I do -----I follow Jesus Christ and Faith is needed actually required by God ---Without Faith you can't please God ----That is a scripture ---you can look it up ----there is 3 types of Faith --Saving Faith is needed to be saved ------The New Covenant of Grace comes through Faith -----

Eph. 2:8-9 (NET)
2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God;9it is not from works, so that no one can boast.

1. Saving faith is rooted in God’s grace, not in human performance.

2. Saving faith rests in God’s promise,

Saving faith is rooted in God’s grace, it rests on God’s promise, it revels in God’s glory, and it relies on God’s power.

https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-23-nature-saving-faith-romans-416-22

then there is this ----http://www.gotquestions.org/definition-of-faith.html

Believing that Jesus is God incarnate who died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins and was resurrected is not enough. Even the demons believe in God and in those facts (cf.James 2:19). We must personally and fully rely on the death of Christ as the atoning sacrifice for our sins. We must “sit in the chair” of the salvation that Jesus Christ has provided. This is saving faith. The faith God requires of us for salvation is belief in what the Bible says about who Jesus is and what He accomplished and fully trusting in Jesus for that salvation (Acts 16:31). Biblical faith is always accompanied by repentance (Matthew 21:32;Mark 1:15).

You can believe whatever you like --- you have a great rest of the weekend ----------if you believe this is idolatry go for it -----it is all your belief not mine -----In my Belief there is only one path to God and that my friend is through accepting and believing (having Faith ) in His Son Jesus Christ who died to set me free from sin and death to have eternal life ----there is no other way to God in my following ------but we will both know the truth when we die who is dabbling in idolatry ---Now that is the real truth -----

 

[Neo]

Neo

-----I have no idea what you are talking about ----you follow a whole different religion than I do -----I follow Jesus Christ and Faith is needed actually required by God ---Without Faith you can't please God ----That is a scripture ---you can look it up ----there is 3 types of Faith --Saving Faith is needed to be saved ------The New Covenant of Grace comes through Faith -----

Eph. 2:8-9 (NET)
2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God;9it is not from works, so that no one can boast.

1. Saving faith is rooted in God’s grace, not in human performance.

2. Saving faith rests in God’s promise,

Saving faith is rooted in God’s grace, it rests on God’s promise, it revels in God’s glory, and it relies on God’s power.

https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-23-nature-saving-faith-romans-416-22

then there is this ----http://www.gotquestions.org/definition-of-faith.html

Believing that Jesus is God incarnate who died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins and was resurrected is not enough. Even the demons believe in God and in those facts (cf.James 2:19). We must personally and fully rely on the death of Christ as the atoning sacrifice for our sins. We must “sit in the chair” of the salvation that Jesus Christ has provided. This is saving faith. The faith God requires of us for salvation is belief in what the Bible says about who Jesus is and what He accomplished and fully trusting in Jesus for that salvation (Acts 16:31). Biblical faith is always accompanied by repentance (Matthew 21:32;Mark 1:15).

You can believe whatever you like --- you have a great rest of the weekend ----------if you believe this is idolatry go for it -----it is all your belief not mine -----In my Belief there is only one path to God and that my friend is through accepting and believing (having Faith ) in His Son Jesus Christ who died to set me free from sin and death to have eternal life ----there is no other way to God in my following ------but we will both know the truth when we die who is dabbling in idolatry ---Now that is the real truth -----

I accused you idolatry when you said the words: "Then there is Saving Faith ----to have this Faith brings about Salvation and it requires that we believe that Jesus died to free us from Sin and Death and that we will have eternal life as it states in God's word--". You are claiming that the belief in the theory of a vicarious atonement, a blood sacrifice also known as the ransom theory, is "required" for salvation. This, I believe, is a form idolatry where now a church dogma governs one's salvation, rather than God. Do you see the difference? I don't see anywhere in the Bible where Christ said that "what" believe is more important than "how" we believe.

Regarding the words of Eph. 2:8-9, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God". This "gift" is from the God within, not the personality without. The personal self is but a reflection, an image of the God within; it has no real power except that of the Spirit within. Know that the Spark of Divinity resides within the heart of every Soul, it is only up to us to become aware of it. Once the personal self is left on the great Cross of Renunciation then the gift of salvation truly manifests.

 

[Luce NDs]

It is a mono book theology beyond which many statues cannot extend themselves into god's unknown domains ... presently part of the sub conscience ... below board? Perhaps ever partisan with extra curricular understanding ...

 

[revjohn]

Our Faith?

Are we all of one faith here at WC2?

And even if we broke ourselves into groups would we find those groups monolithic?

Does WC2 have any constituency that is cookie cutter perfect?

That being the case I won't attempt to speck to our. I will speak to mine.

I wish the cornerstone of my faith could be said to be Jesus Christ. The fact of the matter is that before Jesus Christ I had the testimony of a preceding generation of saints. They shared with me their faith, and I have examined generations of different testimonies concerning the person of Jesus Christ trying to determine where on that particular tree I am the best fit.

From there I have what all of these testimonies point to as foundational and that is the scriptures contained within the Holy Bible (Protestant Canon).

Alongside of that I have libraries worth of commentary and systematic theologies which may or may not be helpful depending on what I am using them for.

Then I have the life I have lived and the conclusions I have reached in the midst of that life. This may or may not include leaps of logic. I'm not the best situated to discern where or how often those may exist.

At the heart of all of that is the belief that I have been called by God into a relationship with God and that God has revealed God's self to me through the persons of the Trinity and in the faces and voices of others I have met along the way.

 

[unsafe]

Here is an article I found --it gives 4 building blocks of faith -----this is his version of building our faith -----

Summary ----Written byLarry Ollison
So, it's this way: To have faith we must believe God, know what He said in His Word, speak the Word, and act on what we speak.That's faith!

http://www.cfaith.com/index.php/blog/19-articles/faith/15445-four-building-blocks-of-faith


Four Building Blocks of Faith ----

 

[Neo]

@unsafe, I really don't mean to offend you by accusing you of idolatry. It's just that as a people we have all to let go of things when it's time is done. And Religions must do the same thing if they are to survive in the future.

An awakening is happening across the world right now. A new age is on the cusp of being inaugurated. And with this will come a new awareness for Humanity. An awakening. A revelation. And with this awakening will come the need to assess and reassess what in our lives needs to pass into history and what still stands as truth. Religions will do the same. What this awakening will be, at least to my belief -my faith, is an awakening on a global scale which be inaugurated by the Reappearance of Christ Himself.

But this reappearance will be for all religions, hence the need for Christianity to reassess it's own doctrines and dogmas. The Christ is a World Teacher in the same way that the Sun shines on all of nature. What we call the Christ, the Jews call the Messiah, the Hindus call Krishna, the Muslims call the Imam Mahdi, etc. The Christ represents the link between Soul of Humanity and God. He does not just belong to the Christians.

Salvation comes from within, and not to the adherence to some religion or some religious doctrine.

This is some of the building blocks of my faith.

 

[chansen]

An awakening is happening across the world right now. A new age is on the cusp of being inaugurated. And with this will come a new awareness for Humanity. An awakening. A revelation. And with this awakening will come the need to assess and reassess what in our lives needs to pass into history and what still stands as truth. Religions will do the same. What this awakening will be, at least to my belief -my faith, is an awakening on a global scale which be inaugurated by the Reappearance of Christ Himself.

But this reappearance will be for all religions, hence the need for Christianity to reassess it's own doctrines and dogmas. The Christ is a World Teacher in the same way that the Sun shines on all of nature. What we call the Christ, the Jews call the Messiah, the Hindus call Krishna, the Muslims call the Imam Mahdi, etc. The Christ represents the link between Soul of Humanity and God. He does not just belong to the Christians.

What do the Pastafarians call it?

 

[BetteTheRed]

What do the Pastafarians call it?

Kindness.

 

[Jaebius]

What do the Pastafarians call it?

Bolognese sauce.