People are irregularities in clear space ... blotches?
Where is your faith at?
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People are irregularities in clear space ... blotches?
Persistent though ... a man with that kind of woman within reminds me of my mother ... she told me knowledge was evil because it stated so in the word ... by gods can you receive that and be converted into losing the little bit that was assigned in the beginning?
I've always struggled with that as a vocation ... Job? But I do well to keep up the image my mother imposed on me (stupid ... ignorant). Dad left when I was 1 1/2 years ... told me later in life that if it comes to clubbing a woman get up and go ... explained a lot when adding to the fact that I learned much later that my mother was under the care of a psychiatrist for most of my first 18-20 years that I was home and then I went ... she never forgave me it appeared ... the vanities raged! Image crazy women giving birth to children like I! It is despicable and yet do powers know any different? This seems more prevalent in powerful zones ... Ares where it gets hairy!
Children thus get confused and chaotic ... reflecting the alien activities in a house that folk misrepresent ... like relations! Can you connect? It is a difficult process given the level of persistent independence ... leading to a charter ...
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We Should all ask ourselves ------As A CHRISTIAN -----What Faith provided no fruit and what Faith provides good fruit ====== so you decide ---fruitless Faith ----or Bearing Faith ----
there is only One Truth ----you can't be in both Faiths at the same time -----your either in Fruitless Faith or your in Bearing Faith ------
--------or----- 
You can't be both ----there is only ONE TRUTH -----your either Fruitless or your Fruitful----
WE CHOOSE -----
Jesus said
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Jesus Says ---THIS
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I am the Vine; you are the branches. Whoever lives in Me and I in him bears much (abundant) fruit. However, apart from Me [cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing.
there is only One Truth ----you can't be in both Faiths at the same time -----your either in Fruitless Faith or your in Bearing Faith ------
--------or----- You can't be both ----there is only ONE TRUTH -----your either Fruitless or your Fruitful----
WE CHOOSE -----
Jesus said
Jesus Says ---THIS
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I am the Vine; you are the branches. Whoever lives in Me and I in him bears much (abundant) fruit. However, apart from Me [cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing.
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We must pass through the fires of vanity ... if only for a powerful lesson about lighting flames that aim to consume everything ... a character of avarice ...
To turn down a prayer with grace is good because it frees it up for some you may find that really need a stress breaker as they twist about in another living space ... usually stirring up old dirt ... cultivating? Damn life is peculiar ... especially when encountering those that explain to you they learned the whole thing in one book ... an initial reader?
Are there deeper tomes?
It would appear ... often overlooked! The degree of overlook and supervision can be overwhelming ... if you gain understanding of how these things fly!
To turn down a prayer with grace is good because it frees it up for some you may find that really need a stress breaker as they twist about in another living space ... usually stirring up old dirt ... cultivating? Damn life is peculiar ... especially when encountering those that explain to you they learned the whole thing in one book ... an initial reader?
Are there deeper tomes?
It would appear ... often overlooked! The degree of overlook and supervision can be overwhelming ... if you gain understanding of how these things fly!
unsafe
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Right Faith Brings Peace to the Body --mind and Spirit ------which brings Life and health to the Body ---
NOTE ALL ________If you have a Problem with these Scriptures---complain to God who is the Author of these sayings ---------NOT ME -----you can choose to Believe them or Not --------
I happen to believe them cause I am living them --------
but envy, jealousy, and wrath are like rottenness of the bones.
AI
Tranquil heart: A peaceful and calm heart is compared to life and health for the body. This suggests that a lack of worry, stress, and anxiety contributes to physical and mental well-being.
Passion and envy: These emotions are described as "rottenness to the bones". This indicates a slow, destructive process that causes deep, long-term harm, similar to a disease that consumes the body from the inside out.
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My son, pay attention to my words and be willing to learn;
Open your ears to my sayings.
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Do not let them escape from your sight;
Keep them in the center of your heart.
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For they are life to those who find them,
And healing and health to all their flesh.
ONE FAITH SAYS ____the other Faith says------------------WE CHOOSE Which Faith to Entertain
----the other says ----
---We Choose ------
NOTE ALL ________If you have a Problem with these Scriptures---complain to God who is the Author of these sayings ---------NOT ME -----you can choose to Believe them or Not --------
I happen to believe them cause I am living them --------
Proverbs 14:30
A calm and undisturbed mind and heart are the life and health of the body,but envy, jealousy, and wrath are like rottenness of the bones.
AI
Tranquil heart: A peaceful and calm heart is compared to life and health for the body. This suggests that a lack of worry, stress, and anxiety contributes to physical and mental well-being.
Passion and envy: These emotions are described as "rottenness to the bones". This indicates a slow, destructive process that causes deep, long-term harm, similar to a disease that consumes the body from the inside out.
Proverbs 4:20-22 AMP
20My son, pay attention to my words and be willing to learn;
Open your ears to my sayings.
21
Do not let them escape from your sight;
Keep them in the center of your heart.
22
For they are life to those who find them,
And healing and health to all their flesh.
ONE FAITH SAYS ____the other Faith says------------------WE CHOOSE Which Faith to Entertain
---We Choose ------
Pavlos Maros
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I'm sorry that my first time back after a mild illness and a break was spent complaining about the hatefulness in a post by a so called Christian. I have decided to put her on ignore. I am no saint myself, but her posts are depressingly sickening. I would rather not see them since they only put my back up, especially when they come from someone who calls herself a Jesus loving, neighbour loving, supposedly forgiving true Christian.
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The Ignore function serves me very well @Pavlos Maros although Unsafe is not on my list of Ignored posters.
There is the option on the threads to Show Ignored Content. It's useful if you wish to understand the flow of a particular conversation. For me this has turned out to be mostly the game threads.
It's good to have you back with us.
There is the option on the threads to Show Ignored Content. It's useful if you wish to understand the flow of a particular conversation. For me this has turned out to be mostly the game threads.
It's good to have you back with us.
Mendalla
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Glad you're back and got yourself healthy. Only big news that you might have missed is that Northwind passed away last weekend. There's a thread in In Memoriam.
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The MONSTER Is ON IGNORE !!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL ------HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SATAN Winning A SOUL ---Smiling all the WAY TO HIS
------But REMEMBER -----Even though We hate God who is Jesus and who is The WORD ---and we Mock Him and we Ignore Him and we Trash and Bash Him ----and we Disobey Him and we make Fum of Him ----
-Jesus Says
Mendalla
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One of the popular UU adult ed courses in my time there was Build Your Own Theology. It's a series of classes with exercises to explore your faith and philosophy, ending with creating a "creed". The idea is that it's something you can do periodically to see how your faith has changed with time. It's an interesting exercise.I last did the program back when I first started attending the local fellowship. I should do it again but the fellowship here has not offered it in a long time. It's an interesting approach to answering this thread's original question.
Whenever I want to check how my faith has changed with time, I look back at the original Wondercafe......and the people and ministers that helped along the way.
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This is from Strong's on Scriptural Faith
Right faith is a thing wrought in us by the Holy Spirit"
I say ------ALERT _!!!!!!!_____ALERT _!!!!!!!_____VERY IMPORTANT TO GET FOLKS ---------
Genuine, Scriptural faith is not our ability to ‘count it done,’ but is the deep consciousness divinely imparted to the heart of man that it is done, .
I say ---------Example ---so when a true Christian PRAYS God's Will -----that Prayer is already answered ----so instead of ASKING for God to Answer the prayer ----You Praise and Thanks God for Answering the Prayer and through Faith you believe you have already received it ------
Jesus speaking here ----Mark 11:24
For this reason I am telling you, whatever things you ask for in prayer [in accordance with God’s will], believe [with confident trust] that you have received them, and they will be given to you.
In Scripture, faith and belief are not exactly the same. Faith always comes from God and involves His revelation therefore faith is beyond belief!
Faith is God's work; faith is never the work of people. We cannot produce faith ourselves, nor can we "drum it up at will." Rather, faith comes as Christ speaks His rhçma-word within (see Ro 10:17, Gk text).
In all of Scripture, only the term faith is ever used in the following way: Ro 14:23: Whatever is not of faith (4102/pistis) is sin." Heb 11:6: "And without faith (4102/pistis) it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him" (NASU).
Reflection: Nothing quite like this two-fold witness appears elsewhere in the Bible. These sweeping statements sober the heart and inspire the soul!
The Lord offers to inbirth faith in each scene of life – so that each matters equally in eternity . . . no matter how insignificant they seem (Lk 16:10 with Lk 17:6 and 2 Pet 1:2).
"Faith precedes works, and is not something merely deduced by reason of existing"
The basis of faith is God's revelation of Himself . . . Christianity came to be seen as a faith event"
"Faith is the divine response, wrought in man, by God"
Faith always has the element of assurance, certainty and confidence . . . and evidential value substantiating the thing we hope for . . . with faith, there is no strain or tension; rather, it has the element of assurance and confidence in it . . . if there is strain or tension . . . trying to persuade yourself to keep from doubting, you can be quite sure that it is not faith
I Say ----Worth Repeating Folks ------
if there is strain or tension . . . trying to persuade yourself to keep from doubting, you can be quite sure that it is not faith
faith is not the law of mathematical probability, . . . faith is not natural .
"Faith is the organ which enables people to see the invisible order
"We have made faith a condition of mind, when it is a divinely imparted grace of the heart .
genuine faith produces works as its inevitable fruit ------
Summary
Faith is the divinely enabled response that receives salvation, sustains the Christian walk, unites the church, overcomes trials, and looks to the consummation of God’s promises. It centers on Jesus Christ, is nourished by Scripture, and proves itself through active obedience until it is transformed into sight at His appearing.
Right faith is a thing wrought in us by the Holy Spirit"
I say ------ALERT _!!!!!!!_____ALERT _!!!!!!!_____VERY IMPORTANT TO GET FOLKS ---------
Genuine, Scriptural faith is not our ability to ‘count it done,’ but is the deep consciousness divinely imparted to the heart of man that it is done, .
I say ---------Example ---so when a true Christian PRAYS God's Will -----that Prayer is already answered ----so instead of ASKING for God to Answer the prayer ----You Praise and Thanks God for Answering the Prayer and through Faith you believe you have already received it ------
Jesus speaking here ----Mark 11:24
For this reason I am telling you, whatever things you ask for in prayer [in accordance with God’s will], believe [with confident trust] that you have received them, and they will be given to you.
In Scripture, faith and belief are not exactly the same. Faith always comes from God and involves His revelation therefore faith is beyond belief!
Faith is God's work; faith is never the work of people. We cannot produce faith ourselves, nor can we "drum it up at will." Rather, faith comes as Christ speaks His rhçma-word within (see Ro 10:17, Gk text).
In all of Scripture, only the term faith is ever used in the following way: Ro 14:23: Whatever is not of faith (4102/pistis) is sin." Heb 11:6: "And without faith (4102/pistis) it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him" (NASU).
Reflection: Nothing quite like this two-fold witness appears elsewhere in the Bible. These sweeping statements sober the heart and inspire the soul!
The Lord offers to inbirth faith in each scene of life – so that each matters equally in eternity . . . no matter how insignificant they seem (Lk 16:10 with Lk 17:6 and 2 Pet 1:2).
Key quotes
"Faith always pre-supposes revelation" "Faith is always a response to a divine revelation"Faith precedes works, and is not something merely deduced by reason of existing"
The basis of faith is God's revelation of Himself . . . Christianity came to be seen as a faith event"
"Faith is the divine response, wrought in man, by God"
Faith always has the element of assurance, certainty and confidence . . . and evidential value substantiating the thing we hope for . . . with faith, there is no strain or tension; rather, it has the element of assurance and confidence in it . . . if there is strain or tension . . . trying to persuade yourself to keep from doubting, you can be quite sure that it is not faith
I Say ----Worth Repeating Folks ------
if there is strain or tension . . . trying to persuade yourself to keep from doubting, you can be quite sure that it is not faith
faith is not the law of mathematical probability, . . . faith is not natural .
"Faith is the organ which enables people to see the invisible order
"We have made faith a condition of mind, when it is a divinely imparted grace of the heart .
genuine faith produces works as its inevitable fruit ------
Summary
Faith is the divinely enabled response that receives salvation, sustains the Christian walk, unites the church, overcomes trials, and looks to the consummation of God’s promises. It centers on Jesus Christ, is nourished by Scripture, and proves itself through active obedience until it is transformed into sight at His appearing.
Why bother with this if we’re hellbound anyway because you’re convinced we just aren’t true believers no matter what you tell us? Are you just gloating?
I don’t think my faith has changed much. My attendance at church has. My faith is either really weak (according to unsafe) or really strong because I don’t think we need a prescriptive system and bells and whistles and we’re never going to be perfectly perfect. It is what it is. But we can do better. I never believed in an exclusionary faith. And no matter what belief system or not, we’re culturally part of we just need to care about others. “Whatever you do unto the least of these you do unto me.” Jesus said. Right now there are so many struggling and dying and our society’s systems are making it worse, even deliberately. That’s what I care about.
I’m less hopeful that it’s going to get any better in this world in the next few decades. That’s changed. The world took a real downward path in the past decade. Honestly, the end of the world as we knew it is in progress and it wasn’t so much a decade ago. I still have the same faith. What happened is humans have not, in fact, collectively been good to one another. That’s why we’re in this situation on earth. If we were the world would be better not worse off. I will always believe that no matter what happens.
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Mendalla
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Sadly, that's reality. Humans being bad to other humans predates civilization and maybe even homo sapiens (there's a video about Neanderthal cannibalism sitting in my queue). Using religion to justify it is probably pretty old, too. We have inherent worth and dignity, but recognizing that in others and behaving as if we and they do seems to be another whole ballgame. If there is such a thing as "original sin", it may be the greed and other traits that lead us to harm others and, ultimately, ourselves.
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You choose to be Hellbound all by yourself ----Kimmio
you can choose to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and you choose to Reject His Free offer Of eternal Life -----but you can't accept that it is your Choice -----you want to blame God and others who Have made the decision to Accept God's Graced Free Offer to have Eternal life -----
It isn't had to Accept ---but our Ego gets in the way -------
But Here is the thing ----you want God to be there for you --but you don't want to be there for Him and Obey His Will ---you want to obey your Own Will ---and Have God cater to you
So you like others here want your Cake and Eat it to -----and have eternal Life even as you reject God's Son and what He did and accomplished for you by being nailed to a Cross ---beaten --Flogged --the skin actually ripped off His Back ----for you and all people ------punched -----till He did not even look like a Human being -----
this is describing what Jesus was like ----before they nailed Him to the Cross ----He endured this for you and All People before the Cross
Isaiah 52:14
14 Just as there were many who were appalled at himhis appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being
and his form marred beyond human likeness—
How Arrogant of people to think that they are that special and have no need of a Saviour to Save THEM from the Corrupt Nature we are ALL Born with --------and Reject and mock what He did for US ALL -----
Well Good Luck to all with their---- No Saviour for me Attitude----when the Spirit and Soul leave the Body in the end -------
Fingers Crossed for you all
paradox3
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Or no fear like Christian fear!
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Actually ---I think ----there is no hate like the unbelieving has for the true Christian who has Accepted the Love that God is -------which they personally and willingly have reject because of pure arrogance which is a Puffed up EGO ------
NO Jesus FOR ME -------
