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Yes rejecting the Kingdom is rejecting living in its ways now. It is not enough to believe in Jesus or the Kingdom. We must also follow what was said.

If you are a TRUE Follower of Christ ---the indwelling Holy Spirit guides you and gives you the ability to Live a Godly life ------and accomplish what is right in God's eyes --

If your not a True Christian then you can't do as Jesus says -----as we have not the ability on our own to accomplish doing what Jesus says -----
 
If your not a True Christian then you can't do as Jesus says -----as we have not the ability on our own to accomplish doing what Jesus says -----
It is a simple case of acting in servitude to God and each other rather than focusing on self. His two commandments.
 
It is a simple case of acting in servitude to God and each other rather than focusing on self. His two commandments.
The Natural man cannot accomplish that ---cause they are away from God and everything they do is suppose to Glorify God not ourselves ----so when the Natural man does servitude they are glorifying themselves not God ---

Just because someone calls themselves a Christian does not mean they are a true Follower of Christ ----any one can use the word Christian ---and there are many False Christians in this world today ----
 
Natural man does servitude they are glorifying themselves not God ---
No they are acting righteous as they follow God's will over their own. He commanded it, we do it by choice... or not. Grain or tares. We are to follow His commands.
 
No they are acting righteous as they follow God's will over their own. He commanded it, we do it by choice... or not. Grain or tares. We are to follow His commands.

timothyu----​

Show me a Scripture that says that the Natural man is acting righteous as they follow God's will over their own if they do it by choice -----Where in scripture does it say that -----

I await for the Scripture ----

Jesus says ---Apart from me you can do nothing ----

so where you get that the unbeliever can serve God when they are away from God is beyond me ------Pay attention here -----cut off from vital union with Him -------

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Show me the Scripture that says Unbelievers are in union with Jesus -----
 

timothyu----​

Show me a Scripture that says that the Natural man is acting righteous as they follow God's will over their own if they do it by choice -----Where in scripture does it say that -----

I await for the Scripture ----

Jesus says ---Apart from me you can do nothing ----

so where you get that the unbeliever can serve God when they are away from God is beyond me ------Pay attention here -----cut off from vital union with Him -------

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Show me the Scripture that says Unbelievers are in union with Jesus -----

This is so complicated for simple faith that believes in not knowing ... thus nothing appears ... you ca see it on the street ... people walking by and not even noticing there are other folks there ...

It indicates that other part of the Golden Rule ... caring for both sides! There if goes the great unknown ... a whole civilization except for a few outliers ... fringe: like they escaped the Cuckoo's Nest ...
 
Look at the OT people and even Jesus' mom (happy Mothers day) that were considered righteous simply because they followed God's will.
 
Shoal, Scholl's or Shoah given the trouble great powers give humble vocations ... catastrophe in the long run ... creates the potential of an end and jousting of donkeys ... people falling off horses, etc. Stunning cases ...

Then falling off the wagon may be a whole different expression ...
 
Look at the OT people and even Jesus' mom (happy Mothers day) that were considered righteous simply because they followed God's will.
Now here is where your missing the road ----And

timothyu ---your making up your own Doctrine ---and that is dangerous ----your Spiritual understanding of Scripture is lacking here ------if your a Born Again follower of Jesus ----ask the Holy spirit to guide you in your Spiritual understanding of the scripture -----​


-In the Old Testament your were considered righteous by Faith in God ----which is believing in what you don't see ------and putting that Faith into action ---Mary was chosen by God to conceive God's Son and by Faith she believed that the Holy Spirit would provide the sperm for her to conceive ------ Mary was a Believer and her sins were forgiven by God so she could conceive and Haive God's Son --

Unbelievers have Human Faith which is belief in what they see --feel --hear --taste and touch

God's Faith has to be
inbirthed in you by and through the hearing of the Scriptures --- -and
one has to accept God's Drawing to have their heart changed to accept the Gospel

Unbelievers hearts are Hardened toward God and His word

The Pharisees were teachers of the scriptures and they didn't have God's faith inbirthed in them ----they had Human Faith and didn't understand what Jesus was teaching them ----

they served the poor and through they were doing God's will and Jesus called then Hypocrites and vipers and said they were children of the devil -------




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You need to read Hebrews 11 and understand it -----this tells you how people in the Old Testament became righteous ----

Hebrews 11

Faith in Action​

11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.

2 This is what the ancients were commended for.

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

6 ;And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going.

9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise.
10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.
11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth.

14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,

18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned 19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible.

28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
 
She was chosen for her righteousness, not her ability to be fixed. She put
God's will ahead of her own.
No------- she was a sinner like us all and God showed Favor to her because He wanted to ----and she Believed in God and she at first and was questing God ----
but then submitted to His will through Her Faith in Him that God inbirthed in her ----she was not Righteous before ----she became Righteous when she Submitted through Her Faith In God -----Her sins were Forgiven through God's Grace ---

This is that Scripture ----Luke 1


28The angel came to her and said, “Greetings! The Lord has blessed you and is with you.”

29 But Mary was very startled by what the angel said and wondered what this greeting might mean.


30 The angel said to her, “Don’t be afraid, Mary; God has shown you his grace.

31 Listen! You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus.

32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of King David, his ancestor.

33 He will rule over the people of Jacob forever, and his kingdom will never end.”

34 Mary said to the angel, “How will this happen since I am a virgin?”

35 ;The angel said to Mary, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you. For this reason the baby will be holy and will be called the Son of God.

Her submission -----

38 Mary said, “I am the servant of the Lord. Let this happen to me as you say!” Then the angel went away.
 
The determinacy about folks that believe they have everything (God) all in hand when there is much more to the greater thing ... a gross chore to those despising knowledge and learning process ... they are seized on that point ... it is buried in the writ of corpus ... the body of what's displaced ...

I see it as a gamma (dark) zero dimension as it is reasonably beyond us --- Kant on pure reason in the present state of conflicted psyche regarding the unseen Sophia Pistis ... underground pool? Subtle EH ...

Myself I have qualm and doubt all that is in the tome (written) thus we search for it and more ... there being no end to it ... what we've fallen into!

It doth come and go .... for brief snatches ... if you can pick some ... passing stuff? Wild sects ... wandering in the highlands like Yeti 's the time ... on the go ...
 
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