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Can opera, country music, etc. be infiltrated by propaganda? Should for this reason only ... we be required to eliminate song, dance and art forms?

What if there is a tiny bit of virtue hidden there to be accrued?
I'm not advocating the loss of either. I like country music, and my support for opera is more for the artists - all the people involved in putting such a grand production together. The set crew, costumes, dancers, lighting. Less, the singing itself - though I appreciate their talent, and discipline, for singing.

When I was a kid my mom listened to Hoyt Axton - late country singer and actor, wonderful voice - in an interview he commented that opera was the only music he wasn't fond of - he joked about an opera singer hitting the high crescendo singing about going to the store to buy a loaf of bread, or something - that was enough. As a country singer, to be fair, he sang about more interesting things than his truck breaking down. He was once an English teacher. Correction: his mother was an English teacher. I thought he was for some reason.
 
Actually - being a Christian is pretty much a guarantee that one will suffer.

"Jesus said to them, 'You will, for sure, suffer the way I will suffer. You will be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with'" - Mark 10:39b (NLV)

It's not going to end well for any of us. We live, we die, often with a great deal of discomfort.

Also, in case anyone cares, I adore opera and loathe country music...
 
Actually - being a Christian is pretty much a guarantee that one will suffer.

"Jesus said to them, 'You will, for sure, suffer the way I will suffer. You will be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with'" - Mark 10:39b (NLV)
The suffering suffered by an insufferable Christian is nothing compared to the suffering that insufferable Christian would like to others to suffer.

But mostly, loss of privilege is not "suffering", and people making fun of you for saying or believing stupid things is not persecution.
 
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The suffering suffered by an insufferable Christian is nothing compared to the suffering that insufferable Christian would like to others to suffer.

But mostly, loss of privilege is not "suffering", and people making fun of you for saying or believing stupid things is not persecution.
Ha Chansen you should be just fine then.:)
 
if you know who the Absolute is would you not speak the Truth? Like your round earth example, would you not speak the truth that the world is Round or would you simply say that's nice its your belief that the world is flat let them go on in there falsehood
But we're not taking about 'who' here, we're taking about 'what'. My idea of what the ABSOLUTE Truth is vs the great Truths we see around us is obviously different from yours. Our truths are always relative, like the world being round. In order for you to honesty say a Truth like the world is round, you'd have to qualify it by saying "at this time" the world is round. And "time", is a quality of the personality but not of the Soul. Time is relative to our point of views, like our truths. The ABSOLUTE, however, stays true and never changes.
 
In the great field of all things ... if something is not liked well should it still be respected or denied access?

Then the subject of rejection becomes the object of reaction! I interject as a daemon rejected by excessive Christianity practiced by those in the dark as much as I ... comparatively speaking ... I recognize how little I know ... many authorities on light, lam, and
λ often don't see the flash coming from inside and the spontaneous ignition. We are excessively emotional people at times while trying to control and steer another's lives ... for questionable ends. Is that t' ontological or deontological fringes of the argument that few understand about things beyond us yet?

Some say the next step is a big one lording over us ...
 
God values every life, including every unborn human life.
--Where is your mind Jae? Bette said an Abortion ,I believe that's Murder performed on a baby. God said if you hurt one of the little ones , It would be better if you had never been born.
 
In fact, the bible has not a word to say on abortion, except to discuss a situation between two men, if one man injures another man's wife and she is caused to lose the fetus, what the value of the fetus might be. "Ex 21:22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows."

So that's what I see in that situation. Now that we're past men owning women, it becomes a logical situation to be worked out between a woman, her doctor and her conscience. If a woman is married, one would assume that she might have a moral imperative to include her husband in the decision.
 
In fact, the bible has not a word to say on abortion, except to discuss a situation between two men, if one man injures another man's wife and she is caused to lose the fetus, what the value of the fetus might be. "Ex 21:22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows."

So that's what I see in that situation. Now that we're past men owning women, it becomes a logical situation to be worked out between a woman, her doctor and her conscience. If a woman is married, one would assume that she might have a moral imperative to include her husband in the decision.

The Bible says, "You will not murder."
 
BetteTheRed ------your quote -----A fetus cannot yet survive on its own, thus disqualifying it as an independent human being.

This is interesting ----according to God there is no difference between a unborn fetus and a born baby ----

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/737-luke-1-41-baby-or-fetus

Luke 1:41 – Baby or Fetus?

BY WAYNE JACKSON

When the virgin Mary learned that she was pregnant, and that she would bear the Christ child, she journeyed to the hill country of Judea and sought out her kinswoman, Elizabeth. Elizabeth, of course, was also pregnant with the child who would come to be known as John the Baptizer.
Luke, the medical doctor (Colossians 4:14) and historian, declares that when Mary greeted Elizabeth, “the babe” (John) leaped in her womb (Luke 1:41; cf. 44). The Greek word here employed by Luke is brephos. It is a term that is used in the Greek New Testament to denote either a pre-born or post-born child.

Unlike some modern religionists, who support the notion that the entity within the womb is a mere blob of tissue to be disposed of at will, the inspired writers of the Bible consider the unborn human to be a child in every sense of the word — as much a “baby” as a newborn infant. He or she is not just a fetus; there is a child in the mother’s body.

The fact is, when Dr. Luke presents the record concerning the birth of Christ, he says the shepherds were told that they would find a “babe” lying in a manger (Luke 2:12). Luke again employs brephos. From the divine viewpoint, the product of human conception is a baby — both before and after birth.

It is no more justifiable to take the child’s life before its birth than it would be to dispose of it after birth. In either case, the crime is murder. Thus, beside Luke 1:41 write:The pre-birth human is a “baby” — as much as the post-birth child is. See Luke 2:12 for the same word.

http://biblehub.com/greek/1025.htm

1025. brephos
Strong's Concordance
brephos: an unborn or a newborn child

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1025: βρέφος

βρέφος,βρέφους,τό;

a.an unborn child, embryo, fetus :Luke 1:41, 44; (Homer, Iliad 23, 266;Plutarch, rep. Stoic. 41τόβρέφοςἐντῇγαστρί).
b.a new-born child, an infant, a babe(so fromPindardown):Luke 2:12, 16;Luke 18:15;Acts 7:19;1 Peter 2:2;ἀπόβρέφους from infancy,2 Timothy 3:15(soἐκβρέφους,Anth. Pal.9, 567).
 
Murder is the unlawful killing of another human. A fetus cannot yet survive on its own, thus disqualifying it as an independent human being.
--There are many people today ,who are alive only because of a Machine . So should we then turn them off an let them die? GOD is the maker of Children, there were city's that had no children for three years , because they turn there backs on GOD. I have known Men and Women ,through out my life . Who wanted children , but just couldn't have them. You know of course of another planet" where human children are born? I don't care what you say . If a child is left to be born , will it be anything ,other than Human"? It dose seem to be a very precious thing indeed. Yes to kill it is Murder in my" eyes , an I am sure in my GODS as well.
 
But you do agree that you're doing your own interpreting of the bible here, making its meaning fit your pre-conceived notions.

Women spontaneously abort and miscarry a significant number of pregnancies. Rabbits simply re-absorb pregnancies that occur when they're under stress. In a significant percentage of the world, the infant morbidity (children who die under the age of 5) is so great that there's some early hesitation in naming children.

There are sensible ways to limit the number of abortions, should that be your goal. Female education, scientific sex education and the provision of free birth control all work well.
 
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