United With God

[Luce NDs]

This is so true, our focus should always be on "how" we believe as opposed to "what" we believe because the latter is always subject to where and when we are born and then how we are raised.

This is why the simple teachings of Maitreya for this new age is this: “Be who you are. If you are a Jew, be a Jew. If you are a Muslim, be a Muslim. If you are a Christian, a Hindu, a Buddhist, be who you are. If you can discover the secrets of mind, spirit and body, you will know who you are.
You can do this through honesty of mind, sincerity of spirit and detachment.”

- Excerpt From: “Maitreya’s Teachings: The Laws of Life.” Benjamin Creme.

In thus way ... could we becoming attractive to excluded forces? Damned nerv'anna's ... as breaks in the CNS ... synapses? Black bubbles ... quantum spots as dark holes ...

Some connections perhaps can be laid out ... PIXels?

 

[Jaebius]

I believe that both the what and how of what we believe is important - both the theory and the praxis. We evangelicals have certainly often erred by intellectualizing faith, putting too much emphasis on the what. I'd suggest that there are others who have done the reverse and put too much emphasis on the how.

 

[Luce NDs]

I believe that both the what and how of what we believe is important - both the theory and the praxis. We evangelicals have certainly often erred by intellectualizing faith, putting too much emphasis on the what. I'd suggest that there are others who have done the reverse and put too much emphasis on the how.

Then there is the:

• When
• Where
• Why
• What

The 4 winds beyond the two identified to assist the sparking of a moderate pyre (#7) then you're gone ... exempted rule, or Exclusion Prin.?

Are broad based perceptions out as a psyche-sophistic view ... right out of existence thus eliminating something ... as thoughts go!

 

[Luce NDs]

Then where do thoughts go when exhausted ... down a deep tube? Is that Nous or a V-nous ... as a break in the night ... just before the dawning ... and man is thus dais'd ! The naked virtue of being out 've ITe! Alternate cognizance ... a snippet of Charles Baudelaire!

Tis enough to put a head (test-la) in a diming spin ... dim-son that Ko Rae'n illumination Dunne often with I-viscera ... gut Zae?

 

[Mendalla]

I believe that both the what and how of what we believe is important - both the theory and the praxis. We evangelicals have certainly often erred by intellectualizing faith, putting too much emphasis on the what. I'd suggest that there are others who have done the reverse and put too much emphasis on the how.

What about the why? I think that's often overlooked. We believe things and do things based on that belief but why do we believe that in the first place? What is the basis for the belief that is the basis for the action? Or is that what you're getting at in different language?

 

[Jaebius]

What about the why? I think that's often overlooked. We believe things and do things based on that belief but why do we believe that in the first place? What is the basis for the belief that is the basis for the action? Or is that what you're getting at in different language?

I think the why is a very good point Mendalla. For me, the why has everything to do with the missio Dei. I believe that God has called me to participate in his great redemptive mission. That's what works for me. What's your why?

 

[Mendalla]

I think the why is a very good point Mendalla. For me, the why has everything to do with the missio Dei. I believe that God has called me to participate in his great redemptive mission. That's what works for me. What's your why?

"Why" for me? Because I experience myself living in relationship to all that is, including (if there is one) God. The more of those relationships that are positive, the better it is for me and all who are in relationship with me. That's really what the interdependent web of the UU principles is all about.

 

[Jaebius]

"Why" for me? Because I experience myself living in relationship to all that is, including (if there is one) God. The more of those relationships that are positive, the better it is for me and all who are in relationship with me. That's really what the interdependent web of the UU principles is all about.

I could go with that although, you know, I believe that there is God.

 

[Mendalla]

I could go with that although, you know, I believe that there is God.

Well, strictly speaking, as long as I remain a sort-of pantheist, that web of relationships IS "God" for me but it's not a transcendent, personal deity so I'm not sure the term "God" really fits.

 

[Luce NDs]

Are concepts as part of the mind ... non-existential? I have been told that mind, sol, and social-psychology do not exist in the present dimension?

Could we learn in the future dimension, or is that just an out-of-here concept? Thus my thoughts take flight ... as many ministers have told me not to think (perhaps only follow their desires) ... making me wonder ... a' post holy-c light ... or blackout?

Perhaps a deviation in word form ... different than the word was in the beginning!

 

[BetteTheRed]

I would be most puzzled if I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister NOT to think. It's all I do...I live in my head. I would immediately be asking myself, "why am I in interaction with this person who seems not to understand humans clearly?".

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I would be most puzzled if I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister NOT to think. It's all I do...I live in my head. I would immediately be asking myself, "why am I in interaction with this person who seems not to understand humans clearly?".

Me too...but I often find people telling me "you think too much", "you're overthinking it", "forget about it", "stop thinking"... "What good is thinking about it?" Really, I do. Often, those closest to me, in fact.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Why are we here...is a question that religion assists with. I guess some of us find it too improbable to believe that humans have no purpose and we're just here by accident bumbling around on this blue marble with all the other animals...and because we have the capacity to ask "why" and create religions and cultures that attempt to give our lives a sense of meaning and purpose...that in itself compels me to believe there is an answer to "why?"

 

[paradox3]

I would be most puzzled if I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister NOT to think. It's all I do...I live in my head. I would immediately be asking myself, "why am I in interaction with this person who seems not to understand humans clearly?".

Was most puzzled when I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister WHAT to think.

Indeed I was immediately asking myself "Why am I in interaction with this person?".

Never thought this individual misunderstood humans, however.

 

[Luce NDs]

I would be most puzzled if I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister NOT to think. It's all I do...I live in my head. I would immediately be asking myself, "why am I in interaction with this person who seems not to understand humans clearly?".

Imagination is all in the head ... and many of the fixated cannot perceive such a stretch. Then the bible addresses "understanding" many times (51 in NIV, and 100+ in KJV but this is something excluded and ignored by those that collect only isolated chits/bits; Q-bits) thus the bite of understanding and you are immersed ... some refer to it as a bode (another version as biding time) and the consequence is a Bodleian Stack ... the library of Oxford for scholars of ancient texts and manuscripts hated by those that despise rheological study as we visit temporarily? The abstract will Passover Tue and they shall be one at peace ... conjunction of imaginary points as previously isolated sects ...

King James overruled this school with piles of weight ... excess pounds! Monis speaks ... causes people to loose their thoughts ...

The big question is; where do thoughts go ... out there? Is that beyond the institout 'd? And they too were gone in a blast ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Why are we here...is a question that religion assists with. I guess some of us find it too improbable to believe that humans have no purpose and we're just here by accident bumbling around on this blue marble with all the other animals...and because we have the capacity to ask "why" and create religions and cultures that attempt to give our lives a sense of meaning and purpose...that in itself compels me to believe there is an answer to "why?"

Possibly we're here for the experience with animas that don't think and if they tll you not to ... do they gain control of you thoughts and thus put them down?

Kind 've like that sinking feeling. Keep your head just at the surface gurls ... observe the hubris ... that about to fall and degrade into bugs ... fude for those doing etudes on that which bugs yah ... dark poetics?

Thus the obscurity of godsol as scattered obtuse nature to cause curio in the constitutional majority as moral lies there ... some times you 'ave to peel the face of it to get to any adept ... like those people standing up to atomic dis-integration ... they are distributed due to lack of prosody ... stuff initiating on the other side of the sod ... O'my?

So the Jake o' being can become something else again ... and then we're off once more in the twist of Tau Ruse ... as absolute word itself cannot define abstract ... the best laid out lines of m'us and m'n ...

 

[Mendalla]

Me too...but I often find people telling me "you think too much", "you're overthinking it", "forget about it", "stop thinking"... "What good is thinking about it?" Really, I do. Often, those closest to me, in fact.

What is the context though? Telling someone not to overthink something is not the same as telling them not to think. Usually it means they are putting a ton of thought into what should really be a very simple decision (and, believe me, I'm guilty as charged on this one sometimes) or else something that has little bearing on them and that they have little control over (likewise).

OTOH, the context here seems to be someone saying, "I'm an authority and I've thought about this so you don't need to." Which, to my UU ears, is a pretty good sign it's time to start thinking about it.

Why are we here...is a question that religion assists with. I guess some of us find it too improbable to believe that humans have no purpose and we're just here by accident bumbling around on this blue marble with all the other animals...and because we have the capacity to ask "why" and create religions and cultures that attempt to give our lives a sense of meaning and purpose...that in itself compels me to believe there is an answer to "why?"

And that is something that is worth thinking about and not something you should take an answer about on authority though, sadly, many do.

 

[Luce NDs]

What is the context though? Telling someone not to overthink something is not the same as telling them not to think. Usually it means they are putting a ton of thought into what should really be a very simple decision (and, believe me, I'm guilty as charged on this one sometimes) or else something that has little bearing on them and that they have little control over (likewise).

OTOH, the context here seems to be someone saying, "I'm an authority and I've thought about this so you don't need to." Which, to my UU ears, is a pretty good sign it's time to start thinking about it.



And that is something that is worth thinking about and not something you should take an answer about on authority though, sadly, many do.

If one mulls this over does one await a greater power ... improved thought or just improvised as we go along ... according to the degree of what we don't know? Some say this is considerable ... thus some deny it isn't so ... the ease of way out?

 

[Neo]

I would be most puzzled if I found myself in the situation of being told by a minister NOT to think. It's all I do...I live in my head. I would immediately be asking myself, "why am I in interaction with this person who seems not to understand humans clearly?".

The church has a long, long history of trying to control "what" people think. This is evendent in it's doctrine of hell, scaring people into thinking what they want people to think. They often site John 14:6 where Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me", confusing this statement with religion, e.g. claiming that "Christianity" is the way, the truth and the life. Another mistake, I believe, is how some confuse the "word" with the Bible. The latter is a set of scriptures, written and interpreted by men, while the former is the "logos" of our system, either planetary or solar.

The mind of man is the proving ground for humanity. It's where we discriminate between the polar opposites. It's how we evolve and become aware of our universe. The church should, in my opinion, encourage free thinking and not try to stifle it. This is sadly not the case, however. One only has to suggest the concept of reincarnation to the church, for instance, to find they are shot down and told that this concept is not biblical and that somehow you are on the path of the devil if you pursue those kind of unbiblical thoughts. What a bunch of bs.

 

[chansen]

Why are we here...is a question that religion assists with. I guess some of us find it too improbable to believe that humans have no purpose and we're just here by accident bumbling around on this blue marble with all the other animals...and because we have the capacity to ask "why" and create religions and cultures that attempt to give our lives a sense of meaning and purpose...that in itself compels me to believe there is an answer to "why?"

If you want an answer to why we are here, religion is perfect. If you care that the answer you believe is real, religion is useless.

If people really wanted to know, they'd be funding scientific research instead of church renovations. I can buy that religion is a source of inspiration or fills a need for some people. What it is not, is any sort of requirement or source of scientific knowledge.