TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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BetteTheRed said:
I read the list. Reads mainly like propaganda to me. And not every achievement, in fact, zero to few of them, represents any progress towards any goal that I would support.
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Is prop a' Ganda a writ/ word, or a word of rite to the rich & powerful that silence protects? Such that word in again ...
 
revsdd said:
It is propaganda.

The Washington Examiner is a right-wing fake news conservative rag. In another article I've seen people cite today they take issue with the number of school shootings that have happened this year. Apparently, the Washington Examiner says it's not a school shooting if people just shoot at each other in a school parking lot, or if a kid takes out a gun in class and just fires a bullet into the floor, or if shots go through a window but miss the kids inside, or if it's a kid who just shoots himself. Those are the ones I can remember that were dismissed by the Washington Examiner as not school shootings.

And so now - dutiful servants of Trump and his base that they are - they printed this "impressive list" which is all noted as "according to the White House" in Paragraph 1, "according to the White House" in Paragraph 3, and "cited by the White House" in Paragraph 7.

Propaganda offered up by the White House and spread by a Trump puppeteer fake news organization.
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I like to comment on your down-right destroying some aspiration in some powerful dreamer that he is a greatest along with individual Christians that are not sorted out mentally yeti! Emotions can do that ...
 
revjohn said:
I suspect the nature of the promised item is a key concern.

Young Nikolaus Cruz moved forward on his promise to be a school shooter.

Why don't you tell the families of the 17 dead how impressed you are with Cruz fulfilling that promise?

And hey, notice how much attention one of Trump's accomplishments is getting with helping Cruz realize his dream.

Make sure you cheer that accomplice.

Whoops. That should probably read accomplishment.

Not all accomplishments are good.

Not all success should be celebrated.

And revsdd is right. The source is propaganda.

And redbaron is also right. The list is hardly an accounting of accomplishment.
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Sometimes accomplices are down-rite criminal in the social consequences ... of making Aim Erica great once again ... "take a shot at it!"

Why we don't need the roué of guns ... but some good social sense would ben Efit ... but Fitz went by as Finnegan ... Kat therein in another narrative ...

Find a space between the shot lines ... tis safer to tuck in ... thus wrinkles ... us ancients are gonna fold the hole thing up ... as it its nothing similar to monad ... with this thing at the core! Tis a point of conjecture ... a pain to that following the heart?
 
Hey! We're picking on Trump. Let's look at his achievements. He posts on twitter every day. Do you? He gave a thumbs up for photographers at the service for those killed at the school. Isn't that positive? He's keeping troops in Syria though their presence is illegal under international law. That's shows courage. He has the whole world on the edge of nuclear war. )Nobody else has had the Christian decency to do that.)

In tribute to him, I would suggest that all evangelicals get hairdos like the hairdo of Trump. (And also that they be required to have affairs with porn flic stars.
 
Some people always gotta be negative. Some people always gotta see conservative news sources as fake. So sad. :(
 
Conservative function of perspective: don't change a thing, craziness is acceptable!

The rest (remnant) attempt to fit in by fading from de light ... thus all those shadows ...
 
Jae said:
Some people always gotta be negative. Some people always gotta see conservative news sources as fake. So sad. :(
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By this point in your academic career, one would have hoped that you had developed some faculties for critical thinking, rather than blindly accepting such "news" sources as legit. Alas, that seems not to be the case.
 
Redbaron said:
By this point in your academic career, one would have hoped that you had developed some faculties for critical thinking, rather than blindly accepting such "news" sources as legit. Alas, that seems not to be the case.
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Does allow for impossible illusions tho' ... some say thou as they bow to impossibilities like unthinking modes!
 
Redbaron said:
By this point in your academic career, one would have hoped that you had developed some faculties for critical thinking, rather than blindly accepting such "news" sources as legit. Alas, that seems not to be the case.
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Some some to feel that any news source that has an editorial stance counter to their own bias is fake news. I find that sad.

The CBC and CNN are obviously slanted left but I am not going to play the game of some and say that everything they put out must therefore be fake.

If the list of Trump's achievements I've linked to is fake, prove it don't just slap a "fake news" label on it.
 
Actually, no-one said it was "fake". They said it was propaganda. And John pointed out that "accomplishments" are a mixed bag, depending on who is doing the accomplishing. The "accomplishments" of a failed business person, a failed husband, pretty well a failed human, are not really very interesting. Ya know, "look, he can use his thumbs to twitter stupid, incomprehensible, often vilely evil, statements!" Like, jolly good...
 
Jae said:
If the list of Trump's achievements I've linked to is fake, prove it don't just slap a "fake news" label on it.
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Actually, @BetteTheRed, I claim it to be "fake news."

As I've already pointed out, it is by definition "fake news" since it isn't even news. It's propaganda, direct from the White House (as the story acknowledges three times) that the Washington Examiner doesn't even attempt to do any sort of objective analysis on. It simply parrots what the White House has told it to parrot. That isn't news; that's political propaganda. That makes it worthless as "news" and suspect, given that it comes from a White House that routinely lies.

Biggest inaugural crowd ever. Lie. Highest ratings ever for a State of the Union speech. Lie. Trump said that people in Britain were protesting against the NHS. Lie. (They were protesting Conservative government cuts to the NHS.) Trump claimed that the US was an energy exporter. Lie. (The US remains a net importer of energy.) Trump stated that the Immigration Visa lottery randomly handed out green cards. Lie. (In fact there is still vetting and either education or work requirements have to be met.) Trump claimed that a government shut down would shut down the military. Lie. (In fact, the core military functions were exempt from spending cuts necessitated by the "shut down.") Trump said that the Obama administration sold the US Embassy building in the UK. Lie. (It was the George W. Bush administration.) Trump claimed substantial evidence of voter fraud in 2016. Lie. (Even Republican state officials said that was absolutely untrue.) Must I go on? Because I could, but it would take hours. Now you, Jae, think that a report in the Washington Examiner (a source that has an obvious pro-Trump bias) singing the praises of Trump's achievements based on a list provided by the White House that repeatedly lies is credible? Seriously.

Nothing from any source should simply be accepted as absolutely true. CNN, Fox, Washington Examiner, Washington Post, CBC, Toronto Star, National Post, Sun Media, whoever and whatever - they all have a bias because they're all run by human beings who can't completely keep their own biases out of the reporting. That's why people really should read a wide selection of news sources (including some outside the established ones) and especially ones that have an editorial bias that doesn't just parrot their own and then use personal discernment and wisdom to try to sort through it all and try to establish what's actually true - beyond what's simply reported. The problem is that people automatically assume that if they agree with something it's true, and if they don't, it's fake news.

I declare the article you cited above as "fake news" not just because I disagree with it, but because it isn't news, it's propaganda - as I explained above.
 
Trump is also horrified that the Russians interfered in a U.S. election. He doesn't mention that the U.S. interferes in other countries' elections all the time. That's particularly true in Latin America. And when it interferes, it kills. Ever hear of what happened to Chile in 1973 or, much more recently in Haiti?
 
I've never seen a definition of fake news. Sometimes, it's straight lies. Sometimes, its very selective bits of the whole story. Sometimes, it the use derogatory adjectives. Kim Jong Un, for example, often gets described as erratic when, in fact, I have seen no evidence that he is. People of enemy states are routinely described as evil when that has nothing to do with the story - and when we behave in ways even more evil.

We're seeing the full treatment with those Russian evil people in the news for interfering with an American election. In fact, Americans routinely interfere in elections just about every year - and not just with propaganda but with mass murder ( Chile, Haiti, Guatemala,...)
 
Graeme Decarie said:
I've never seen a definition of fake news. Sometimes, it's straight lies. Sometimes, its very selective bits of the whole story. Sometimes, it the use derogatory adjectives. Kim Jong Un, for example, often gets described as erratic when, in fact, I have seen no evidence that he is. People of enemy states are routinely described as evil when that has nothing to do with the story - and when we behave in ways even more evil.

We're seeing the full treatment with those Russian evil people in the news for interfering with an American election. In fact, Americans routinely interfere in elections just about every year - and not just with propaganda but with mass murder ( Chile, Haiti, Guatemala,...)
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Well it seems appropriate that they should interfere with their own election then.:(
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Kim Jong Un, for example, often gets described as erratic when, in fact, I have seen no evidence that he is.
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There is method in Kim's madness as opposed to Trump who has madness in his method. At this point, I think Kim is the more stable of the two. Without Trump stirring the pot, I would not be worrying about that situation nearly as much.
 
Too true.

U.S. big business is determined to rule the world. It's greatest target to that end has been an obsession with the imperial conquest of China. That goes back over a century. And the key to the conquest of China is the capture of North Korea. That is why the Korean war was fought. And that is why the U.S. has spent the last seventy years or so with trade sanctions on North Korea and constant threats to it. It's not just the madness of Trump. It's the madness of American billionaires.
 
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