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Well, Hillary wasn't exactly happy with Comey either. But, yeah, firing him in the middle of the Russia investigation stinks.

I wonder how the FBI as a whole, is taking this news, though.

The plot thickens. Novelists, screenwriters...and comedians...are quickly running out of material.
 
Michael Flynn has been supeonad to appear in front of a Grand Jury as part of the FBI's broader investigation into Trump and Russia ties. I really don't know how all the US arms length agencies work...who has more clout, the State Department, Justice Department, FBI? Who watches over/ answers to who? I'm really not knowledgeable about how their systems work. But a Grand Jury is a big deal is it not? it means Flynn is potentially being formally accused by federal prosecutors? (Is that right?)...compared to the senate subcommittee hearings (which could just go around in circles), this is huge.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...y-subpoenas-issued-in-fbi-russia-probe-report
 
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Richard Nixon could legally fire Archibald Cox as special prosecutor for Watergate and he did. That's not why Nixon ended up resigning in disgrace but it pointed to a problem in his administration. Donald Trump can legally fire James Comey as FBI Director and he did. But for the president to fire the FBI Director while the FBI is investigating the president's campaign is similar to the president firing the Watergate special prosecutor. It doesn't look good and it raises a lot of questions.
 
Some people believe you can do anything ... just because you can ... if you believe no one sees any harm in it ... thus the blind mule act in the biblical myth ... the spelling may have been altered (redacted) to protect the MUeL ... a midnight entity ...
 
Some take the one-way model and "do as you will" as if all is forgiven ... then what if you are really held responsible for things you should have been more observant and less ignorant of as compared to the oppression of guilt mode ... with God's sense of diversity could there be cor eruption in the dark and the springing up of night mares or just μν-eLs called midnight in another mythical linguistic ... languages we ignore? Is such pieta basis of naïveté ... or indicating something missing?

Hoo Dah'th unque IDe ? If you think of such things do it in sacred code for the gods don't like profound thoughts, knowledge and wisdom appearing in the other ... leads to alternate failure in the Circe ... like the Romans entertained themselves killing hundreds of lesser folk in a dazed entertainment ... tis a republican moment!

Tis good for filtering out the gods from the Aamons though ...
 
The problem is not that Trump fired James Comey. You can make a very valid argument for firing James Comey. Rod Rosenstein - the deputy attorney general who's in charge of overseeing the FBI director - made a very good argument for firing James Comey. The problem is that much of Rosenstein's argument revolved around Comey's handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, and I don't think anybody believes that Trump fired Comey because Comey didn't treat Hillary Clinton fairly. Rosenstein gave him an excuse; a rationale for firing Comey. Rosenstein's interesting. He's a Republican (appointed as a judge by George W. Bush) but he's a moderate Republican, well respected by both parties. He became deputy attorney general just two weeks ago (confirmed 94-6 in the Senate in a rare show of unity on a Trump nomination) and in that time came out with this recommendation that Comey be fired because of how he handled the Clinton investigation. It's not likely that he took office and decided on his own before his chair was even warm that his first piece of business was going to be writing a memo to the president asking for the director of the FBI to be fired. So my question is - who asked for this? Given his background it was reasonable to expect that Rosenstein's concern would be Comey's handling of the Clinton situation. Was he immediately asked for a recommendation on Comey in the hopes that he would criticize Comey, giving Trump cover for firing Comey? That's what I would want to know. What motivated him to make writing a recommendation to fire Comey over the handling of the Clinton investigation his very first priority after less than two weeks on the job? Curious. And why does Trump want to fire Comey right now? Again - curious.
 
Like the Pete-y bog ... there is an Eire about it ... but concerning such matters pagans are not to comment outwardly ... thus the fringe sentiment!

Back to The Origin of Satan by Elaine Pagels .. she deals with the kennen and weal's quite nicely as things haunting large desires ... they can poke and augur ... thus pits in the sol ... black holes? Naughty ladies in the laine ... that Frankie chap on stuff we didn't wish to be wise to !
 
There's no reason for President Trump to resign.
There are, however, several reasons why Trump is unqualified to serve, beginning with emolients from foreign governments. Moreover, there are reasons why Trump could be impeached and removed from office. Maybe he won't have to resign.
 
chansen said:
Holt s**t. He fired Comey. Trump fired the FBI Director in the middle of he FBI investigation of Trump's campaign.

Even Nixon didn't fire the FBI Director. Nixon fired the prosecutors. Didn't work out so well there. Not the Trump knows his history.

Yeah. If there is one thing which Trump and the gong show which is the current administration do not comprehend it is optics. They simply do not understand, or apparently believe, that one's own words can come back and bite them on their fleshy brain cases.

The courts have struck down executive immigration orders primarily because of the campaign rhetoric which clearly demonstrated bias against religion and the White House has never bothered to put together a more compelling argument that amounts to anything substantially deeper than "Muslims, bad." Which is why he fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates who declined to defend the initial order.

Of course nobody is going to deny that Trump does not have the authority to fire any appointee.

One should seriously look at who it is that Trump is firing and why because sometimes just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

When the Attorney General is convinced an executive order violates the constitution you can fire her. Is it the right thing to do? Not if upholding the constitution is important. If it isn't kick her to the curb and appoint someone who won't get in your way as you draft unconstitutional legislation. Of course you will probably run into a number of judges who you cannot fire who actually decide that the constitution is trump. Which is ironic in that Trump appears to be so deficient when it comes to knowing about the constitution he gets trumped.

Trump even had the right to fire New York's Southern District Attorney Preet Bharara even inspite of Bharara's glowing work prosecuting actual terrorism related cases and corruption cases impacting on both the Democrats and Republicans. If ever you wanted an Attorney who got the job done and made application of the law primary to partisan political theatre you could hardly expect to do much better than keep Bharara around. So Trump had the right? Was it the right thing to do? Not if you think the way forward should be bipartisan.

Of course Trump has the right to fire Comey. Should Comey have been fired as a result of the Clinton e-mails? Hard to say isn't it? If Obama had fired him it would have looked like Comey was being punished for hobbling the Clinton Campaign. As it stands, the rationale given is that Comey didn't actually press any charges against Clinton choosing instead simply to rebuke her for not ensuring that sensitive information was protected. I mean, an unsecure server has got to be a million times less secure than a public dining area of a private country club right?

Either way, it isn't up to the Director of the FBI to prosecute or lay charges. It would be the Director's job to give information to the Attorney General who then decides to prosecute based on the probablility of securing a conviction.

One presumes that competent professionals made that decision.

And now there are what? Three investigations taking place exploring the ties between the Trump Campaign and Russian Interference. The one guy fired, after initially being defended, has asked for immunity from unfair prosecution in return for testimony. Can he be fired from that position? Nope.

So what to do? Fire the guy who called for the investigation?

Some would think twice about that.

Others apparently can not be bothered to think much past "why not?"

And so yes, the right to do just that does exist? Is it the right thing to do? Not if you are at all concerned that the investigations happen without any kind of interference. And while some wanted a special prosecutor named to head up the Russian investigations the Republicans in the Senate were able to group together and say no to that. How much longer can that kind of action hold. Eventually these Senators see their positions go on the chopping block you think that they want the stink of this scandal potentially costing them those jobs?

Sooner or later, Trump is going to cross a line and he is going to make history in a way that no other president has. He won't be the first to face impeachment, he won't even be the first to be impeached. He may very well be the first to be imprisoned as a result.

Sad that there is more attention spent on having a right to do something rather than whether or not it is the right thing to do.
 
Sooner or later, Trump is going to cross a line and he is going to make history in a way that no other president has. He won't be the first to face impeachment, he won't even be the first to be impeached. He may very well be the first to be imprisoned as a result.

He would be the third to be impeached (after Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton) and the first to be removed from office by the Senate on impeachment. (Johnson and Clinton were both acquitted by the Senate.) Richard Nixon resigned before the House actually voted to impeach him.

revjohn said:
Sad that there is more attention spent on having a right to do something rather than whether or not it is the right thing to do.

I've thought the very same thing. Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.
 
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