TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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I bet, if any, the most cases of individual voter fraud will come from Trump voters. How many voted twice (by mail and in person) because he told them to try it and see what happens? I think he then claimed he was joking, but he'd already planted the idea out there. He knew damn well he was sewing confusion. Conversely - why should anyone expect a large number of legitimate Trump votes by mail if he discouraged his base from mail-in voting? He spent weeks railing about how bad it is. It was the Dems more likely to vote by mail because of covid. Not the anti maskers who mainly support Trump.
 

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I think these belong in this thread ... for some random reason I found them moderately misplaced in another.

If I am wrong ... then of course I would be happy to report the 13,000 other posts that have not been moved elsewhere that are highly 'speculative' with regards to Trump Truisms.
 

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Do dead voters for Trump count as legal votes in your opinion?
Joe Biden should receive 100% of the legally deceased votes that died on his watch.
Trump should receive 100% of the legally deceased votes that died on his watch.

Gives Biden quite the edge with what 47 years ? of 'compassionate' service to 'his' country.
 

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Rita, what interests you in comparing/defending Trump and Biden? Given your disinterest in voting in general, your inability to vote in the U.S. election, and your apparently somewhat "free-fall libertarianism" bent. Trump is a career "business person" who has, demonstrably, been not very good at that, nor, really, his TV persona, which is attractive to a small group of masochistic TV watchers, from my observations. Biden is a career politician. You may think badly of that, too, but from a background POV, I'm not seeing the difference. While Biden may be "guilty" of agreeing with decisions that caused world-wide conflict repercussions, during the same time, Trump was busy driving smaller firms into bankruptcy or suicide due to his unethical business practices.

You don't like the strictly dualist U.S. system, but you don't seem to be mad interested in the proportional representation movement in Canada. So, what, other than tiny family units, and no central services, like emergency services, or health services, or libraries, or education, might you possibly propose? We can't all move back out to the country and operate 150-unit "tribes".
 

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Rita, what interests you in comparing/defending Trump and Biden? Given your disinterest in voting in general, your inability to vote in the U.S. election, and your apparently somewhat "free-fall libertarianism" bent. Trump is a career "business person" who has, demonstrably, been not very good at that, nor, really, his TV persona, which is attractive to a small group of masochistic TV watchers, from my observations. Biden is a career politician. You may think badly of that, too, but from a background POV, I'm not seeing the difference. While Biden may be "guilty" of agreeing with decisions that caused world-wide conflict repercussions, during the same time, Trump was busy driving smaller firms into bankruptcy or suicide due to his unethical business practices.

You don't like the strictly dualist U.S. system, but you don't seem to be mad interested in the proportional representation movement in Canada. So, what, other than tiny family units, and no central services, like emergency services, or health services, or libraries, or education, might you possibly propose? We can't all move back out to the country and operate 150-unit "tribes".
You made a stronger case for Trump than Biden. Why? Can you vote in the U.S. Election?

There are over 13,000 posts. It is obviously a thread of interest ...

I am participating as an anti-statist in the hopes of dispelling some illusions.

You label me 'free fall libertarian" ... I am a non partisan anti war conscientious objector to governments that have lost their legitimacy by having been Incorporated into the Global Cabal of Technocratic Oligarchs.

If you want to see the real 'government' agenda then go to the WEF Great Reset page and study that.

It is not a conspiracy site ... and it covers every detail of global governance strategy imaginable.

There really is no stone left unturned ... but you all insist that I am the one that does not know what I am talking about.

They have painted every scenario possible and it still comes down to a New World Order.

The New World Order that all the presidents and prime ministers have been talking about for many decades.

Now if you go to that website you might think it all sounds wonderful.

I would not agree but that is a different can of worms all together.

The politics that I follow as alternatives ... I have presented more than one ... and more than once.

They are all dismissed. That is fine. They are still the alternatives that give me hope.

I think the last one you dismissed with 'not going with people who arm themselves' or something to that effect ... but you do think that voting for 'the military industrial complex' is a better option ... I find that baffling.

I will not be persuaded that Biden is better than Trump or that Trump is better than Biden.

Neither of them should be an option ... they have sold their souls to the company store ... end of story.

I am here connecting the dots ... which have their bearings in what is going on behind the scenes not in front of them.

So yes ... there are many people that I follow that are working on alternate models of governance ... and of course they don't all agree with each other either ... but the ones that I am most interested in are apparently not worth talking about in this forum ... no matter how many times I offer them up for consideration.

So while I am here ...

I am motivated by my passion for dispelling the illusions around what you might call democracy and I would call a religion of statism.

Again if you insist on labeling me then currently I am placing my 'vote' on the voluntary principle of political rules without corporate rulers or martial law.

This dictates that we do not force our idea of “better” on someone else, and it protects us from having someone else’s idea of “better” imposed on us by force.

The use of coercion to compel virtue eliminates its possibility, for to be moral, an act must be uncoerced.

If a person is compelled to act in a certain way (or threatened with government sanctions), there is nothing virtuous about his or her behavior.

Freedom of choice is a necessary ingredient for the achievement of virtue.

Whenever there is a chance for the good life, the risk of a bad one must also be accepted.
 
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"If you can't have your own way with it ... burn the whole damned thing!"

Where God's theory about eternal damnation by fire, light and burned earth originated ... in pure expanded fantasy derived from nothing ... a point on the bottom line ... as laid out!

This does allow a new e*frame when the old form Ephraim is consumed over Joey's wanderings ... cultural drift or sextant Brei's? Cheezy ... but sometimes entertaining sufficient to get a whole community into the rumour ...

Sometimes one has to get right intuit to find truth of screwups! Justifies that dark house of mystery in the Mocking Myth ... or even bleaker dwellings ... realize the kitty wells up and hair stands as part of the irrational chaos ...

The routine is too put it all to order after the flameout ... thus the orangeman and the green as vert and heh goes!

Did you know "heh" is a semitic icon ... a spacer? Tis a sign in the UK Midlands ... middle earth? Didn't see it coming ...

Local tribes cometh together there in season ... sort of like loaning your bull and canon chaff for the benefit of the unknown ... a myth est bourne! Purple shades appear at the peak ... thus fiery ladies at the end ... they take off with what the alternate lost ... slimy intelligence?

Discover a flaw and that is where it hides ... broken brae in's place!

Consequence: real people loose all they ever knew ... like you'd think the world was on fire ... much of it false reflection?
 
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In a world defined by the depth of the lies laid out, foundationally speaking ... how far would one have to go to get to the bottom of T' higgs particle? Could be eternal given our mortal tendency to give loyalty to brute powers ...

There are pros and cons for winning and losing ... con federates and those wishing the upend the whole thing as obverse as profered ... erroneous fairing?

Could the rock solid have the essence eternally wrong? Then some gods seem to thrive on screwups devoid of intelligence!

Alas in the present environment you can't say such things except in script and skitts! Then there's stage fright ... causes many folk to repair and reassociation of the portions allowed ... in another cycle perhaps one will get a piece of the act ... escape from the soma?

Know lent state and when you must give return o'nite ... a dark mystery! Life is like that ... a blind adventure if one backs off and observes ...

Leis may be sucked up so as to avoid figuring them out ... thus un thunk states! Even gods require a break ... thus flaws ...
 

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3 Min Video

Nov 11 2020

Georgia to undergo full presidential vote recount​

Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has ordered the state will recount all five million ballots cast at the recent presidential election by hand, in order to ensure the validity of the vote.

 

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And there will be number issues. There always is on a recount. Not hundreds of thousands, usually dozen or so.

the man lost. I am not sure why the party is treating him like some sort of toddler who needs to be coddled

oh right. Because he is a big toddler

o wish someone would get that trump baby balloon and fly it outside the White House
 

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You made a stronger case for Trump than Biden. Why? Can you vote in the U.S. Election?

There are over 13,000 posts. It is obviously a thread of interest ...

I am participating as an anti-statist in the hopes of dispelling some illusions.

You label me 'free fall libertarian" ... I am a non partisan anti war conscientious objector to governments that have lost their legitimacy by having been Incorporated into the Global Cabal of Technocratic Oligarchs.

If you want to see the real 'government' agenda then go to the WEF Great Reset page and study that.

It is not a conspiracy site ... and it covers every detail of global governance strategy imaginable.

There really is no stone left unturned ... but you all insist that I am the one that does not know what I am talking about.

They have painted every scenario possible and it still comes down to a New World Order.

The New World Order that all the presidents and prime ministers have been talking about for many decades.

Now if you go to that website you might think it all sounds wonderful.

I would not agree but that is a different can of worms all together.

The politics that I follow as alternatives ... I have presented more than one ... and more than once.

They are all dismissed. That is fine. They are still the alternatives that give me hope.

I think the last one you dismissed with 'not going with people who arm themselves' or something to that effect ... but you do think that voting for 'the military industrial complex' is a better option ... I find that baffling.

I will not be persuaded that Biden is better than Trump or that Trump is better than Biden.

Neither of them should be an option ... they have sold their souls to the company store ... end of story.

I am here connecting the dots ... which have their bearings in what is going on behind the scenes not in front of them.

So yes ... there are many people that I follow that are working on alternate models of governance ... and of course they don't all agree with each other either ... but the ones that I am most interested in are apparently not worth talking about in this forum ... no matter how many times I offer them up for consideration.

So while I am here ...

I am motivated by my passion for dispelling the illusions around what you might call democracy and I would call a religion of statism.

Again if you insist on labeling me then currently I am placing my 'vote' on the voluntary principle of political rules without corporate rulers or martial law.

This dictates that we do not force our idea of “better” on someone else, and it protects us from having someone else’s idea of “better” imposed on us by force.

The use of coercion to compel virtue eliminates its possibility, for to be moral, an act must be uncoerced.

If a person is compelled to act in a certain way (or threatened with government sanctions), there is nothing virtuous about his or her behavior.

Freedom of choice is a necessary ingredient for the achievement of virtue.

Whenever there is a chance for the good life, the risk of a bad one must also be accepted.
Rita we've all known about these things for years......back in the sixties we were against the establisnment and unnecessary wars, etc......but eventually everyone got sucked back in the web and it's the same with politicians. They start out being very idealist but in order to stay in the "game" thinking they can effect change, the game changes them.
 

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This imperial propaganda rag only picks US enemies ...

Maduro was elected.

The Trudeau government’s Venezuela policy is a disgrace to all peace-loving Canadians who support the right to self-determination. We ought to unite in support of the Venezuelan people against illegal and dangerous attempts to enact regime change and demand that Canada rescind its sanctions against Venezuela, and rebuff the Trump regime for its support for the recent coup attempt.


Mugabe was an anti-colonial revolutionary who redistributed land to the Black majority (and after a coup his successor now is giving land back to white colonialists)

They're polar opposites of Trump.
 

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Rita we've all known about these things for years......back in the sixties we were against the establisnment and unnecessary wars, etc......but eventually everyone got sucked back in the web and it's the same with politicians. They start out being very idealist but in order to stay in the "game" thinking they can effect change, the game changes them.
So ... why continue to abide by the rules of their game?

Why keep rehashing what the MSM tells us to?

We can reclaim politics ... but to do so we must first reclaim our minds.

If the corporate elite can no longer find a way to foist a neoliberal technocrat like Biden on the public, they will choose the populism of a Trump over the populism of a Sanders every time.

And as they own the media, they can craft the stories we hear: about who we are, what is possible and where we are heading.

If we allow it, our imaginations will be twisted and deformed in the image of the deranged totem they choose.

Jonathan Cook is a Nazareth- based journalist and winner of the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism

You can also read his articles HERE.
 
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