TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

His racist statements have not cost him. At all. What he has exposed, is how racist the GOP is. They've played that card subtly for years. Trump is saying things out loud. What's even more depressing, is that enough independents are sympathetic to his statements that he could win the nomination. Then all it take is the Democrat to implode, and it's President Trump.

Nope. I think he's hurt himself and the GOP and is going to hand votes to Hilary. Proportionally, she was already doing better than him. He has a very narrow base of supporters, getting narrower by the day. The narrowest minded ones in the country. No (a very very tiny few if any) minorities are going to vote for him. He's going to unite minority voters not to vote for him. He may end up going independent, in which case, it's very doubtful that he or the GOP front runner can win the presidency. It's a slim possibility but every Repub candidate is denouncing him and so is even Dick Cheney.

 

[Jaebius]

Nope. I think he's hurt himself and the GOP and is going to hand votes to Hilary. Proportionally, she was already doing better than him. He has a very narrow base of supporters, getting narrower by the day. No (a very very tiny few if any) minorities are going to vote for him. He's going to unite minority voters not to vote for him. He may end up going independent, in which case, it's very doubtful that he or the GOP front runner can win the presidency. It's a slim possibility but every Repub candidate is denouncing him and so is even Dick Cheney.

President Hilary. Surely not.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I think so. President Clinton The 2cnd

 

[Graeme Decarie]

I don't think it matters whether Trump wins. He might be more brash than Hilary, but they have pretty much the same policies. The U.S. is looking for a war with Russia. That's what is really happening in Syria. It's looking for a war because the oil barons want absolute control of the world's oil supply. And the oil barons have been making U.S. foreign policy for the last 15 years. - and even before.

Hilary is as big a sleaze as any of them. She and Bill have become extremely wealthy people out of politics. Neither of them has any social principles that I have ever heard of. The GOP is, of course, a wipe-out.

Some pretty good scholars have said the U.S. has become a fascist country. I don't think it has. Fascism never descended to what the U.S. is. It has become, quite seriously, Nazi with fear and hatred as its major drivers.

American big money wants wars. Wars are profitable. Big money also wants to avoid the disaster it would face in the very near future from Chinese economic growth. The U.S. is driven by fear, racial hatred, greed, torture, domestic spying, destruction of human rights. But we don't recognize naziism when we see it up close.

The best thing that could happen to this world is a social breakdown of the U.S. - which Is quite possible.

The world news is far, far more serious than our news media are telling us.

 

[revjohn]

I think it is safe to say that whatever Mr Trumps motivations for running are they are selfish.

The Democrats have demonstrated that they do not have the brains to be this strategic, heck part of the reason why the American Government is the mess that it is is due to Democrat bungling and incompetence. So it is highly unlikely he is a Democrat plant.

The Republicans don't know how to fight his popularity other than dumbing down and being as outrageous as he is. Case in point Ben Carson who may be a brain surgeon but one wonders how.

There is no reason for Trump to do this for anyone nor does he project as being particularly benevolent. One wonders what reason it is that he thinks he needs to do this at all. Apparently there is an accomplishment he must have and this is how he goes about obtaining it.

 

[revjohn]

I'll have to track down our copy of "It Cant Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis.

See how close his art is to American reality.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I don't think it matters whether Trump wins. He might be more brash than Hilary, but they have pretty much the same policies. The U.S. is looking for a war with Russia. That's what is really happening in Syria. It's looking for a war because the oil barons want absolute control of the world's oil supply. And the oil barons have been making U.S. foreign policy for the last 15 years. - and even before.

Hilary is as big a sleaze as any of them. She and Bill have become extremely wealthy people out of politics. Neither of them has any social principles that I have ever heard of. The GOP is, of course, a wipe-out.

Some pretty good scholars have said the U.S. has become a fascist country. I don't think it has. Fascism never descended to what the U.S. is. It has become, quite seriously, Nazi with fear and hatred as its major drivers.

American big money wants wars. Wars are profitable. Big money also wants to avoid the disaster it would face in the very near future from Chinese economic growth. The U.S. is driven by fear, racial hatred, greed, torture, domestic spying, destruction of human rights. But we don't recognize naziism when we see it up close.

The best thing that could happen to this world is a social breakdown of the U.S. - which Is quite possible.

The world news is far, far more serious than our news media are telling us.

No they don't have the exact same policies. It was in the news last week - it came out in the release of her emails that she and her aides supported the release of Omar Kahdr from Gitmo, to serve his sentence here, when our government was coming out against it. She had a chat with Baird and made it happen, I read. Her team were very happy that he'd have another chance at life, and that one less person was being held there. And she has also said in one of those emails that the Saudis are the biggest donors to radical Islamic terrorist groups - something that was not being admitted, or spoken about, by the previous administration. I think the Dems true policy stances oftentimes have been stifled or overpowered by the Republican congress. She is also against the TPP. Trump? My guess is he supports it but all he talks about is his xenophobia.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

The best thing that could happen to the world - in practical terms - is for the world to begin to divest from oil, divest from military power and build peace and sustainability by cooperating on climate change and green energy efforts. It's in the whole world's best interest and could unite people. It'd be nice. It's such a complex web of bad stuff to untangle though.

 

[Ritafee]

Without funding there can be no tyranny.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Think what a different world it would be if they could re-route all the money spent on military and arms into cleaning up the planet and building green energy solutions instead.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Without funding there can be no tyranny.

I disagree. Early humans exercised tyrany with sticks and stones while fighting over food, and turf.

When people are mutually dedicated to peace and cooperation there can be no tyrany.

 

[Luce NDs]

Co operation ... do extremely competitive people understand what that is?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

No they don't have the exact same policies. It was in the news last week - it came out in the release of her emails that she and her aides supported the release of Omar Kahdr from Gitmo, to serve his sentence here, when our government was coming out against it. She had a chat with Baird and made it happen, I read. Her team were very happy that he'd have another chance at life, and that one less person was being held there. And she has also said in one of those emails that the Saudis are the biggest donors to radical Islamic terrorist groups - something that was not being admitted, or spoken about, by the previous administration. I think the Dems true policy stances oftentimes have been stifled or overpowered by the Republican congress. She is also against the TPP. Trump? My guess is he supports it but all he talks about is his xenophobia.

Actually, she was asked to talk to Baird about something else - foreign affairs staff upset with him over Haiti policy - not Kahdr, that I can see here, but the correspondence shows she cared about his circumstances.

And it's mentioned here, @Graeme Decarie she also showed concern about Saudi funding to terrorist groups. So, I do not see her being like Trump at all. Not that she's pure as the driven snow but she has more scruples than him, I think.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/clinton-email-canada-foreign-affairs-1.3344920

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/saudi-arabia-radicalization-neil-macdonald-1.3354831

 

[Ritafee]

I don't think it matters whether Trump wins. He might be more brash than Hilary, but they have pretty much the same policies.

The best thing that could happen to this world is a social breakdown of the U.S. - which Is quite possible.

The world news is far, far more serious than our news media are telling us.

The bills are going to come due. Right now interest rates are being kept at zero which makes it possible to service the debt even though it's impossible to repay it... at least we can service it. But once interest rates go up then we can't even service it let alone repay it.

And then the party is going to come to an end.

The problem, of course, is that no one with any real influence over public perception, like our elected officials or the media, will do anything about it. They'll continue the party until it comes to an abrupt and irreversible end, and anyone who goes against the official narrative will be branded a lunatic gloom and doomer or extremist.

But vilifying those who are blaring the warning sirens will do nothing to change the end result: We're going to have a crisis... There are always going to be people who say 'well, you're a stopped clocked... you keep predicting doom and eventually it happens'... but you have to back and listen to why... Why are they saying it?

If you look back at things that I've said and the things that Ron Paul has said... This is why it's happening... it's not like we're just saying negative things to be negative and then when something negative happens we can claim credit for it happening.

If you look back at the events it bears out that we're right... unfortunately our opinions are in the minority... and you have governments that have a vested interest in ignoring these opinions because they don't want to change because they're at the root cause of the problem. But they don't want to acknowledge their role in creating the problem. They don't want to acknowledge that the problem is more government and that we need less government because that's not how they stay in power. They promise something for nothing... they promise that government is the solution for your problems, not the cause of your problems.

They're never going to acknowledge people like Ron Paul for what they're saying... but they'll try to discredit you by saying 'well, you've been saying this for years and nothing bad has happened.'

But look around. A lot of bad stuff has happened. We just haven't had the final and complete collapse ...
Dire warning from Peter Schiff: "The whole economy has imploded... collapse is coming"

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Co operation ... do extremely competitive people understand what that is?

When they have to maybe?

 

[Ritafee]

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

The bills are going to come due. Right now interest rates are being kept at zero which makes it possible to service the debt even though it's impossible to repay it... at least we can service it. But once interest rates go up then we can't even service it let alone repay it.

And then the party is going to come to an end.

The problem, of course, is that no one with any real influence over public perception, like our elected officials or the media, will do anything about it. They'll continue the party until it comes to an abrupt and irreversible end, and anyone who goes against the official narrative will be branded a lunatic gloom and doomer or extremist.

But vilifying those who are blaring the warning sirens will do nothing to change the end result: We're going to have a crisis... There are always going to be people who say 'well, you're a stopped clocked... you keep predicting doom and eventually it happens'... but you have to back and listen to why... Why are they saying it?

If you look back at things that I've said and the things that Ron Paul has said... This is why it's happening... it's not like we're just saying negative things to be negative and then when something negative happens we can claim credit for it happening.

If you look back at the events it bears out that we're right... unfortunately our opinions are in the minority... and you have governments that have a vested interest in ignoring these opinions because they don't want to change because they're at the root cause of the problem. But they don't want to acknowledge their role in creating the problem. They don't want to acknowledge that the problem is more government and that we need less government because that's not how they stay in power. They promise something for nothing... they promise that government is the solution for your problems, not the cause of your problems.

They're never going to acknowledge people like Ron Paul for what they're saying... but they'll try to discredit you by saying 'well, you've been saying this for years and nothing bad has happened.'

But look around. A lot of bad stuff has happened. We just haven't had the final and complete collapse ...
Dire warning from Peter Schiff: "The whole economy has imploded... collapse is coming"

They need responsible compassionate government. They need to move closer to a Scandinavian model perhaps - social democratic government? They don't need less. They need government funded health care (that so many die due to not being able to healthcare is horrible - private health care in the U.S. context is cruel), better social programs, better education, better gun control !!! They need more socially responsible policies, not less government!

They're already in massive debt from wars - if they went into bigger debt for investment into social programs to help people - it's debt against themselves and they have a license to print money or they couldn't be this far in debt and be as strong as they are - what does it matter if the debt comes due when they are both lender and borrower of the same debt? The could make whatever policy and spending decisions they want with as big a figure as they want couldn't they? So why not just invest in things like I mentioned above that will benefit people?

 

[Graeme Decarie]

We cannot afford the people who really own Canada and the U.S. We can't afford their appetite for war. We cannot afford to be diverting our money to fight wars for oil billionaires. We can't even afford the time these people take from other things we have to do.

Frankly, I don't see how that can be done without a social breakdown in the U.S.

As to Hilary, getting a transfer for Khadr was nice. But that falls well short of being a policy. The U.S. has to tame its billionaires. The only candidate who even approaches that is Bernie Sanders. And he isn't going to win.

The American population lives in a world created by an education system that teaches them a mythical history of the U.S. And Canadians, with the help of TV have fit themselves into that history. We marked the war of 1812 with a message----if there was one----that Canada and the U.S. are great friends. We aren't. governments don't have friends of other governments. What happened in 1812 was that the U.S. murdered Canadians and British in order to steal their land. But you would never guess that from our celebrations.

Later, it did the same to Mexico. Then, right after the civil war, it sponsored invasions of Canada by an American-Irish terrorist group. When we sent an army into our own west, we had to call them police so the U.S. wouldn't be offended. That's where the RCMP came from.
in 1903-04, Teddy Roosevelt threatened to invade Canada.

He wasn't kidding. He had fought in wars to take over Latin American countries, and install brutal dictatorships. Just a few years before he threatened us, the U.S. invaded The Phillipines, killing huge numbers and, on the way, learning how to torture. It then set up The Phillipines as a military dictatorship, ruled by an American. For some years, that was General MacArthur.

Obama now speaks of American Exceptionalism - which is the old Manifest Destiny - that God's plan is for the U.S. to rule the world, and it has the right to ignore all laws, to murder, to torture in doing that.. Look up Project for the New American Century on the web. That's what produced George Bush. And one of its authors was brother Jed.

Canada was a colony of Britain. Britain got rid of us in the 1930s because it was afraid of being dragged into helping us is the U.S. invaded again. We are now a colony of the U.S., and actually more so than we were to Britain.

Expect nothing from Hillary. She's as vicious and murderous as they come.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

We're facing an economic crisis - but not because we have too much government. The reality is we scarcely have a government at all - at least no among the elected ones. Governments obey the dictates of big money. If you visit New Brunswick, you can really see that up close.

We need more government - and we need to control it. Canada's best economic years were those of WW2 and for some years later when government was VERY active, and we had a superb civil service. In fact, big business used to send its rising execs. to study civil service methods.

The economic crisis and its bailouts were NOT caused by government. They were caused by law-breaking, corrupt, and irresponsible big business leaders. Canada and the U.S. should have jailed them as Iceland did. But no, we gave them a trillion dollars. and their directors promptly used that money give each other lavish rewards.

 

[Ritafee]

They need responsible compassionate government. They need to move closer to a Scandinavian model perhaps - social democratic government? They don't need less. They need government funded health care (that so many die due to not being able to healthcare is horrible - private health care in the U.S. context is cruel), better social programs, better education, better gun control !!! They need more socially responsible policies, not less government!

They're already in massive debt from wars - if they went into bigger debt for investment into social programs to help people - it's debt against themselves and they have a license to print money or they couldn't be this far in debt and be as strong as they are - what does it matter if the debt comes due when they are both lender and borrower of the same debt? The could make whatever policy and spending decisions they want with as big a figure as they want couldn't they? So why not just invest in things like I mentioned above that will benefit people?

I repeat .... and you have governments that have a vested interest in ignoring these opinions because they don't want to change because they're at the root cause of the problem. But they don't want to acknowledge their role in creating the problem. They don't want to acknowledge that the problem is more government and that we need less government because that's not how they stay in power. They promise something for nothing... they promise that government is the solution for your problems, not the cause of your problems.