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Graeme Decarie said:
I have seen no sign that anybody at this site listens. The central message of this election is that the most powerful country in the world just had an election in which the choice was between the undesirable and the incompetent, an election affected by public anger - but the public don't quite know what they're angry at. They have no definition of what has to be done, and no access to information.
As well the most powerful country in the world has, for many, many years also been the most murderous country in the world. Nobody seemed to think that was an issue. The wealthy of that country don't pay taxes - and they are also scooping up a rapidly increasing share of the wealth even as other Americans are getting poor - and they they are reducing much of the rest of the world to the most abject poverty.
We are looking at an openly declared ambition to conquer the whole world. Nobody seems to have thought this worth mentioning in the election.
This is, perhaps, the leading Christian country in the world. But I see not a trace of Christianity in its policies. In two thousand years of Christianity, this is the best we can point to?
The wealthy of the U.S. have sent off thousands of Americans and other suckers to die in wars that are solely about making themselves richer And that has killed millions and created tens of millions of refugees.

Waterfall, I'm sure you think you're listening. But I don't see much sign of it.
And JAE lives in his own world.
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Then there are people that do not believe in chaos theory ... they should GOOGLE the word psyche ... tis enough to cause butterflies in the gut ... Papillion? Then there is that moth from the Silence of the Lam ... of course they are just novel regarding emotions!
 
Graeme Decarie said:
I have seen no sign that anybody at this site listens. The central message of this election is that the most powerful country in the world just had an election in which the choice was between the undesirable and the incompetent, an election affected by public anger - but the public don't quite know what they're angry at. They have no definition of what has to be done, and no access to information.
As well the most powerful country in the world has, for many, many years also been the most murderous country in the world. Nobody seemed to think that was an issue. The wealthy of that country don't pay taxes - and they are also scooping up a rapidly increasing share of the wealth even as other Americans are getting poor - and they they are reducing much of the rest of the world to the most abject poverty.
We are looking at an openly declared ambition to conquer the whole world. Nobody seems to have thought this worth mentioning in the election.
This is, perhaps, the leading Christian country in the world. But I see not a trace of Christianity in its policies. In two thousand years of Christianity, this is the best we can point to?
The wealthy of the U.S. have sent off thousands of Americans and other suckers to die in wars that are solely about making themselves richer And that has killed millions and created tens of millions of refugees.

Waterfall, I'm sure you think you're listening. But I don't see much sign of it.
And JAE lives in his own world.
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Graham, I agree but I also believe that most Americans enjoy their country "whupping ass" and feeling like they're numero uno on the planet....even if they don't win wars (possibly on purpose) and sacrifice their sons and daughters only to lose. The military and the NRA have too much power and too many Americans believe the hype because they have bought into the fear and terrorism.....it's not the "establishment they should be voting against, it's the military and the increased spending to support it.
 
If a person is severely whipped ... do they have room for intelligent response?

I have to wonder what happened to Jae in his lives that he doesn't reveal ... you know his profoundly buried sacred stuff ... too deep for even heh to "c" ... Einstein on the light joining the mortal with eternal ...

One must move off and look down on one's elf ... a borderline analysis?
 
Luce NDs said:
If a person is severely whipped ... do they have room for intelligent response?

I have to wonder what happened to Jae in his lives that he doesn't reveal ... you know his profoundly buried sacred stuff ... too deep for even heh to "c" ... Einstein on the light joining the mortal with eternal ...

One must move off and look down on one's elf ... a borderline analysis?
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"Lives?" It's a pointed for Jae once to die and after that he judgment.
 
"I have seen no sign that anybody at this site listens." Graeme

Globalizing capital is deep in the thrall of hubris and nemesis has just been granted access to centre stage in the drama.

Greed and avarice have engendered envy and resentment.

As an ancient poet puts it: "They have sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind."

Elijah thought he was alone but he wasn't.

George



 
"pointed for Jae once to die and after that he judgment"

You mean you will have judgement in hand then?

Pointed: kind of like the Latin þ referred to as a thorn as sign of the fisher ... pedantry?

Then are some too dense from David's stone to process? Ain't it a booty of the philosopher's tone ... parsed or Percé of course in the wandering ... inquisitive wondering? Kind 've like etudes ... often the point is mist ...
 
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GeoFee said:
"I have seen no sign that anybody at this site listens." Graeme

Globalizing capital is deep in the thrall of hubris and nemesis has just been granted access to centre stage in the drama.

Greed and avarice have engendered envy and resentment.

As an ancient poet puts it: "They have sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind."

Elijah thought he was alone but he wasn't.

George
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Reaping the whirlwind ... inheriting the brae N storm? The dark winds of wisdom?
 
Luce NDs said:
"pointed for Jae once to die and after that he judgment"

You mean you will have judgement in hand then?

Pointed: kind of like the Latin þ referred to as a thorn as sign of the fisher ... pedantry?

Then are some too dense from David's stone to process? Ain't it a booty of the philosopher's tone ... parsed or Percé of course in the wandering ... inquisitive wondering? Kind 've like etudes ... often the point is mist ...
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To be clear Luce, I'm not here one wasgoin to be judging me. No. Rater, IL be judged by Jesus Christ, he told women every sale bow Luce. Evwnurz Luce, even @chansen. Are u ready for the judgement Luce? I Scraggly?
 
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To be clear Luce, I'm not here one wasgoin to be judging me. No. Rater, IL be judged by Jesus Christ, he told women every sale bow Luce. Evwnurz Luce, even @chansen. Are u ready for the judgement Luce? I Scraggly?
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Odd I already feel judged by the self-righteous-elves ... thus the let down, put down and humility of emotions ... nothing left but info on how and Y's it happened ... haggai Sophi-a?
 
"The bible is full of stories where, with the help of God, the little guy or Israel overcomes huge opponents." Pontifex

Gideon and the Midianites.

David and the Goliath.

Jesus and Israel's Priests and Politicians.

Let us imagine the Jerusalem/Roman tyranny as exploitive and oppressive. This gives rise to much hardship and suffering for the majority of people in the land. They long for an alternative. God hears and talks to Mary. She bears a son and that son grows up to satisfy the expectation of God. Jesus ends up on trial before the religious and political authorities. Before deciding to murder Jesus the preists and politicians ask people to make a choice between him and a political revolutionary by the name of Barabbas. The incited crowd cries for the liberation of Barabbas and the murder of Jesus.

Pontifex has been associating Trump with Gideon, David and Jesus. I associate Trump with Barabbas. He plays the resentment card expertly and has the resentful population persuaded that he will make liberation possible in a way that Jesus cannot. Why is Jesus not appreciated by the crowd? He offers an alternative to the exercise of power and prefers death to politics. Could he have defended himself? Of course. The point is he had nothing to do with the politics of the religious and political powers of his day. His kingdom was, in his words, "not of this world".

There is no agreement between Jesus and Barabbas. No compromise. This is good news for the exploited and oppressed persons of all nations and the creation they inhabit. It is doom for those who put their trust in the politics of power.

George

 
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Going back to waterfall, 'twas alway thus, I guess. It was like that with the British, Spanish, French empires that put millions into misery. I was watching a British film called "Zulu" about a British battle against the Zulu in South Africa. I was all about the glory of a work party that held off a mass, Zulu attack. It was a film in worship of the empire and its glory and sturdy English yeomen who fought its wars. The film never mentioned that the British were there as thieves and murderers to steal land that wasn't theirs. They might well have been brave thieves and murderers. But they were still thieves and murderers.
 
GeoFee said:
"The bible is full of stories where, with the help of God, the little guy or Israel overcomes huge opponents." Pontifex

Gideon and the Midianites.

David and Goliath.

Jesus and the Priests and Politicians.

Let us imagine the Jerusalem/Roman tyranny as exploitive and oppressive. This gives rise to much hardship and suffering for the majority of people in the land. They long for an alternative. God hears and talks to Mary. She bears a son and that son grows up to satisfy the expectation of God. Jesus ends up on trial before the religious and political authorities. Before deciding to murder Jesus the people are asked to make a choice between him and a political revolutionary by the name of Barabbas. The incited crowd cries for the liberation of Barabbas and the murder of Jesus.

Pontifex has been associating Trump with Gideon, David and Jesus. I will associate Trump with Barabbas. He plays the resentment card expertly and has the resentful population persuaded that he will make liberation possible in a way that Jesus cannot. Why is Jesus not appreciated by the crowd? He offers an alternative to the exercise of power and prefers death to politics. Could he have defended himself? Of course. The point is he had nothing to do with the politics of the religious and political powers of his day. His kingdom was, in his words, "not of this world".

There is no agreement between Jesus and Barabbas. No compromise. This is good news for the exploited and oppressed persons of all nations and the creation they inhabit. It is doom for those who put their trust in the politics of power.

George
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Thus de Light (as Christ) goes down, subtly to ignite the hollows of eLLe ... and de vile Sophi'a was cranked ... and out of here ... while some conflicted opinionists remain as Fe Lix'd, or locked in the great Kitty ... Fine aga in as building to the next fall? As words do strike you as icon of God ... unseen by many ...
 
Luce NDs said:
Odd I already feel judged by the self-righteous-elves ... thus the let down, put down and humility of emotions ... nothing left but info on how and Y's it happened ... haggai Sophi-a?
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Don't let her elves judges Luce. Better they should stay in their lowered, bakincokies for all toe Njoy.
 
Power is addictive and those who trust it will perish.

Here is Thomas Hobbes on power:

"So that in the first place I put for a general inclination of all mankind a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." [context]

Here is Tokien:



Just to be clear... the problem is not with any particular person or association of persons. The problem is the seduction of power by which persons and associations of persons are first enriched and then consumed. What we now witness is not fresh on the scene. The ancient seed of iniquity took firm root among us about five hundred years ago. That is when we began expropriating the diverse material goods discovered on diverse continents. In the process we devastated the ancient peoples of all lands. In the name of God and Monarch!

This is what I have in mind when I speak of "sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind". Who will protest that the arrogance of America is in any qualitative manner different from that of Egypt, Babylon and Rome? Their experience is now our experience. The fall consequent to pride is set to be revealed.

Like Jesus we say simply: "Change the way you think and act. Everything you take for granted is now in question. Forget about saving the old order. It is set for extinction. Look to the new order. Take the leap. Start thinking outside the box temple builders (legislatures, churches, arenas, malls & etc.) of one sort or another have drawn you into.

I suspect the institutional church might do well to read Hannah Hurnard's "Hind's Feet in High Places". The principle character begins her journey once she finds courage to answer the knock on her door and leave the house. Evokes image of hobbits not being eager for adventure when the grey wizard knocks.

George

 
George, that was going through my mind today as i wrote my blog. This one was about remembrance day.
The theme was that we made promises to those who served, especially in world war 2. And we have broken every one of those promises. This is not at all the world we told them they were fighting for.
I don't expect it to be well received. People don't like changing the way they think.
 
There are determinates, in-determinates and complex (imaginary?) numbers in the total awareness (psyche being explained as the total/integral of what we know and the unknown). Consider the abstracts and what's missing!

With enough determination can "people of the story, Haggadai" become immovable? Then there is the story of the sheep-goat owner in Micronesia, who put a donkey in with the herd of ruminants. Sort of like putting a Guy-ina Hen in a flock of chickens! The question is ... do you know the reasoning behind putting such hard cases in the population? What's the f(unction) of the rub?

It can stimulate something ... a different interest? Consider the interest of a person worth $100 B. That boils down to approximately $1000.00 per minute (at only 1% interest rate). Would such ownership cause great worry and little time for mindfulness to the extent that such people couldn't sleep? Perhaps they doo with Black Beauties that are nigh M-aris! Then according to Harold Cox one would have to know the difference between "M" and "m" in which case one is a poor scat ... regarding eschatology ... the chit you can learn from studying people of great confidence ... who know little of the unknown and unseen portions of Psyche ... psyche being something that doesn't exist on some brains as the biblical satire is based on a verse that says give without interest. Is it naïveté to share gems (jinn stones) with swine that will consume everything and remain anxious for more ... never satisfied? Is the satisfied soul like a Hobo or Hobbits ... eternally on the go-est?

When is enough, enough to satisfy a SOL when one compares physical wealth with metaphysical wealth ... the intangible being something worldly authorities tell us not to talk about (ineffable) ... tis a thought ... and the struggle for the existence of mine and mined goes on ... kind of out there after hearing the knocking sound ...

Is a poor in-determinate as rough/ruagh as rich determinate SOL ... there naïveté being a pain in the guardian of the flock? Oh bother ... investigating the divide between the mean understanding of "M" an the wee medium "m"! Never ignore the wee folk that are the foundational support of the marketplace structure. But there should be some understanding about this house ... not a hind's foot there ... leaving a vacancy when she pulls out leaving that sucking sound of a gasp ...

That's the sad aria ... of blues ... an irresponsible M'N! Due to morta we can't see it ... as destiny, or some other metaphor for that's how life goes when living with people preferring avarice ... power instead of gentle understanding ... of the greatest story ever told with great depth ... so authority wouldn't need to grasp IT. Tis a self-imposed thing once gathered in ...

Is that part of proxemics? Tis a system of 3 Circe's ... a circus train wreck at Midnight ... if you stand back and look ...
 
Well, this is going to get very ugly.
Trump has appointed a large number of America's most fervent and far-right warhawks to his cabinet. That does not look as though he intends to be serious about working out a peace with Putin. He has appointed his not very bright son-in-law as his chief advisor. This is the son-in-law who attended Harvard though he had nowhere close to the normal admittance requirements. However, his daddy gave two and half million to Harvard.

There is, I'm quite sure, going to be serious violence with increasing use of police and military suppression.
It would not have been different with Clinton. The whole American system has been lurching in this direction for some time. We have come to open and obvious rule of the U.S. by the super-wealthy - in effect, government by an aristocracy which is an aristoracy like the old, European one, an aristocracy by birth. It is arrogant, has a strong sense of privilege and, like the Royal family of Britain, has become low in intelligence due to inbreeding and automatic acceptance of its membership by birth.
It was happening with Clinton, too. It has always been there but it's now moving into the open.
The same thing has been happening in Canada.
Don't waste time arguinig about whether Clinton or Trump would have been better. They have both been products of the same process. This is, almost certainly, the end of an era.
 
Punk rock is not dead;

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/green-days-anti-trump-amas-chant-the-punk-history-w451677

I read another article with the whole song posted in it - but it looks like the vid was removed. If you can find it, watch it. It's pretty 'brave'. Apparently the AMA producers had no idea they were going to do this live. They didn't do it in rehearsal.

I saw Green Day in the early/ mid 90's - my best friend introduced me to them - in a small bar before they got really famous. They were a little skater punk band from Southern California doing the nightclub tour of the west coast. They have a bigger production budget than they did in those days, they do larger scale productions, but they really haven't changed much. They haven't even aged. They've been accused - like other bands - of "selling out" to the mainstream - but really, looks like they didn't. I think they got more brazen. That was real punk rock.
 
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