They're MAGA

[Jaebius]

Copilot and Gemini are both MAGA

 

[WhyCzar]

Results depend more on the specific question and how the user prompts than on any single model’s bias.

 

[Mendalla]

Yeah, contrary to what some believe, LLMs are still very user driven. In fact, studies have shown that one of the problems with them is that they tend to cater to a user's biases so basically you'll get the answer you are wanting or expecting, even if it is not the correct one.

 

[Jaebius]

Results depend more on the specific question and how the user prompts than on any single model’s bias.

Yeah, sorry, I can't agree. But go ahead, ask them to write something negative about MAGA. See what result you get

 

[Jaebius]

Yeah, contrary to what some believe, LLMs are still very user driven. In fact, studies have shown that one of the problems with them is that they tend to cater to a user's biases so basically you'll get the answer you are wanting or expecting, even if it is not the correct one.

Except that I didn't. Multiple times. So...

 

[WhyCzar]

But go ahead, ask them to write something negative about MAGA. See what result you get

When I promt it to say something negative about MAGA - result:

Criticisms of MAGA:

• It has developed strong cult-of-personality tendencies around Donald Trump. Loyalty to the man often appears to outweigh loyalty to any consistent set of principles. When Trump contradicts earlier MAGA positions (on spending, foreign policy, or personal conduct), large parts of the movement simply adjust rather than hold him accountable.
• Some of its most vocal elements traffic in exaggerated or unfalsifiable claims (certain election-fraud narratives that failed in court, Q-adjacent theories, etc.). This damages credibility and makes it easier for opponents to dismiss the entire movement.
• On economics, the protectionist “America First” trade stance frequently prioritizes certain domestic industries and voters over lower consumer prices and broader economic efficiency. Tariffs are taxes, and they get paid by Americans.
• The movement’s populist style sometimes elevates grievance and vibes over rigorous policy detail. This can produce more energy than governing competence.
• Like many populist movements, it can be thin-skinned and quick to label internal dissent as betrayal (“RINO,” “controlled opposition,” etc.), which discourages healthy course-correction.

When I prompt it to make it even more negative - result:

Here’s a much more negative version:
MAGA is a personality cult built around a deeply flawed, erratic, and self-serving man. Large parts of the movement treat Donald Trump as infallible, defending or rationalizing every contradiction, every crude outburst, every failed promise, and every personal scandal. Principle is secondary; loyalty to the leader is primary. It has normalized conspiracy thinking and grievance politics to a degree that actively undermines serious governance. Election denialism that collapsed in court after court is still treated as sacred doctrine by a significant faction. This doesn’t just damage credibility—it makes the movement look unhinged to anyone outside the bubble. Economically, its protectionism is often just special-interest politics dressed up as patriotism. Tariffs raise prices on ordinary Americans while delivering concentrated benefits to favored industries and donors. “America First” frequently means “connected Americans first.”The movement’s style is toxic: it rewards the loudest, angriest voices, treats internal critics as traitors, and thrives on permanent culture-war mobilization rather than solving problems. It has absorbed and amplified some of the worst online conspiracy and rage-bait elements, making rational debate inside the coalition harder. In short, MAGA channels real and legitimate public anger, then frequently wastes it on ego, conspiracy, and short-term tribalism instead of disciplined, competent power.

 

[WhyCzar]

@Jaebius

When I prompt it to Go Lower on the negativity - the result:

Here’s a significantly harsher, more scathing version:

MAGA is a hollow personality cult centered on a thin-skinned, vengeful narcissist who treats the presidency as a personal brand and revenge vehicle. Core supporters have repeatedly shown they will excuse almost any behavior—lies, incompetence, crude cruelty, policy flip-flops, or self-enrichment—as long as it comes from Trump. Loyalty tests matter more than results or consistency.The movement is heavily contaminated by conspiracy addiction and grievance theater. Large segments still cling to debunked election myths, treat every institutional check as a deep-state plot, and elevate online rage-merchants over people who can actually govern. This isn’t principled skepticism; it’s a refusal to accept reality when it contradicts the narrative.Its economic nationalism often functions as cronyism with a flag draped over it. Tariffs and industrial policy talk sound tough, but they frequently raise costs for working people while protecting politically connected industries. “America First” has a habit of becoming “Trump and his allies first.”Culturally, it thrives on permanent outrage, purity spirals, and treating disagreement as betrayal. It has absorbed some of the internet’s worst midwits and conspiracy hobbyists, rewarding volume and vitriol over competence or restraint. The result is a coalition that is excellent at mobilizing anger and mediocre-to-poor at translating that energy into durable, effective power.

 

[Jaebius]

@Jaebius

When I prompt it to Go Lower on the negativity - the result:

In both your most recent posts, what is "it?"

 

[WhyCzar]

what is "it?"

It is the most MAGA AI there is - Grok.

And I do not think it would make a difference if it was Co-pilot or Gemini.

 

[Jaebius]

It is the most MAGA AI there is - Grok.

And I do not think it would make a difference if it was Co-pilot or Gemini.

So I clearly said that I used Copilot and Gemini. Of course a different AI might give different results