The women divide the plunder ?

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not sure why you post as such, the Greatest Gift this world has ever seen came by a WOMAN, who God uses , so much in Fact that God elevated her overall!

yes Kimmio, she was a woman
I realize. I just think the focus is erroneously on warmongering strongmen...not the strong women trying to “give birth” to peace in the world. And I am not talking literal sexes and literal birth... but in Spirit.
 
I will encourage you to look carefully at Kimmio's insights in this conversation. They are on point and relevant to our shared future. In Revelation a woman is set to give birth. She is driven into the wilderness by the ruler of this world, who knows well that the woman's child will cast down the historical dominion of power expressed as religion in bed with politics. Which we are seeing clearly in America just now. Those now profiting by the exploitation of the planet and its people will not welcome the appearing of God in human form; the body of Christ. That appearing being made possible by the agency of the Holy Spirit, which is the feminine presence of God in history. Something like leaven in the lump.
 
I will encourage you to look carefully at Kimmio's insights in this conversation. They are on point and relevant to our shared future. In Revelation a woman is set to give birth. She is driven into the wilderness by the ruler of this world, who knows well that the woman's child will cast down the historical dominion of power expressed as religion in bed with politics. Which we are seeing clearly in America just now. Those now profiting by the exploitation of the planet and its people will not welcome the appearing of God in human form; the body of Christ. That appearing being made possible by the agency of the Holy Spirit, which is the feminine presence of God in history. Something like leaven in the lump.
Which still doesn't change the fact that God uses men as well and that nothing is going to change until the king of Peace comes which is my point
 
Hi,
Which still doesn't change the fact that God uses men as well and that nothing is going to change until the king of Peace comes which is my point
God uses persons. This seems the meaning of "in Christ there is no male or female". Genesis says: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." The interesting thing here is the use of the word "man" to define humanity. My thesis has it that this persistent error is grounded in the bias of patriarchal ideologies dominating our Western civilization; which shaped our interpretations of the Bible. We find this use of "man" rather than "humanity" near universally in the literary and scholarly writings of the West. Thank goodness this is changing as the rising sun illuminates the dawning of a new day.

George
 
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Hi,
God uses persons. This seems the meaning of "in Christ there is no male or female". Genesis says: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." The interesting thing here is the use of the word "man" to define humanity. My thesis has it that this is a persistent error is grounded in the bias of patriarchal ideologies dominating our Western civilization; which shaped our interpretations of the Bible. We find this use of "man" rather than "humanity" near universally in the literary and scholarly writings of the West. Thank goodness this is changing as the rising sun illuminates the dawning of a new day.

George

Of course that's just a theory on your part , or could be that man before the fall in his strength was to serve not to dominate as the king of glory being man , has.
 
Yeah. There were peaceful men and women, too. But...forget the women. They couldn’t be used by God to bring anything, could they? Let’s cheer on the strongmen! Booyah! (Sarcasm)
Rough and tough guys like wars. And when people vote for the rough and tough guys they support their wars...then to turn around and call those signs of the end times and God’s plan, and pray for intervention...that doesn’t make sense. Nobody needs the thoughts and prayers by that point. They need people willing to change course and risk peace.
There are women of power that support wars as well ... women cannot be excused by virtue of 'gender' any more than men should be excused by virtue of theirs.
 
Hi,
God uses persons. This seems the meaning of "in Christ there is no male or female". Genesis says: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." The interesting thing here is the use of the word "man" to define humanity. My thesis has it that this persistent error is grounded in the bias of patriarchal ideologies dominating our Western civilization; which shaped our interpretations of the Bible. We find this use of "man" rather than "humanity" near universally in the literary and scholarly writings of the West. Thank goodness this is changing as the rising sun illuminates the dawning of a new day.

George
This baffles my mind ... based on pro-nouns ... wars are waged? PerSON huMANity. Perhaps Trudeau had a point Peoplekind? WoMan. Male FeMALE. NoWomb. Womb.
 
There are women of power that support wars as well ... women cannot be excused by virtue of 'gender' any more than men should be excused by virtue of theirs.
They are part of the patriarchy. It's a male hierarchy that reveres and rewards brute power and cut throat competition. They joined it. I realize that's confusing. It was established by men - that a few women have that kind of power doesn't make women as much historically accountable for wars and violence, though.
 
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I will encourage you to look carefully at Kimmio's insights in this conversation. They are on point and relevant to our shared future. In Revelation a woman is set to give birth. She is driven into the wilderness by the ruler of this world, who knows well that the woman's child will cast down the historical dominion of power expressed as religion in bed with politics. Which we are seeing clearly in America just now. Those now profiting by the exploitation of the planet and its people will not welcome the appearing of God in human form; the body of Christ. That appearing being made possible by the agency of the Holy Spirit, which is the feminine presence of God in history. Something like leaven in the lump.
Holy Spirit - Feminine presence of God? Where is the masculine presence of God?
 
This baffles my mind ... based on pro-nouns ... wars are waged? PerSON huMANity. Perhaps Trudeau had a point Peoplekind? WoMan. Male FeMALE. NoWomb. Womb.
No. Not because of pronouns!! Because of men calling most of the shots throughout history - believing that they are divinely entitled to - way too often at the expense of women and their children.
 
They are part of the patriarchy. They joined it. I realize that's confusing. It was established by men - that a few women have that kind of power doesn't make women as much historically accountable for wars and violence, though.
Patriarchy: A belief system and culture of oppression that has been running rampant in western civilization for the last 10,000 years. This belief system suppresses the feminine principal in both females and males alike and causes a suppression of emotions, compassion and caring in our world. It also shows up as a suppressive thought form that believes that the masculine principal is in charge of nature and can do whatever "he" wants regardless of the circumstances. Although, some believe this no longer exist (due to women having external rights) it is rampant in our underlying subconscious and unconscious beliefs as a culture.
The suppressive forces of the patriarchy within her psyche has caused her to bulldoze the sacred indigenous lands. She is ignoring how she really feels and instead is choosing profits over her heart.
 
No. Not because of pronouns!! Because of men calling most of the shots throughout history - believing that they are divinely entitled to - way too often at the expense of women and their children.
Ok so currently in order to write a new story what is the solution ... it seems that we have narrowed it down now to words that we can use as principles or characteristics being feminine and masculine? What is the gender defined in banks, corporations, capitalists, imperialists, monarchists, oliogarchs or technocrats?
 
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