The Revelation to John
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GeoFee
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Hi,
George
History indicates a pattern of rise and fall. Each rise goes a little higher than the previous and each consequent fall is deeper. Getting behind the progressive myths of our time, we will notice the persistent misuse and abuse of power now dominant is set to precipitate what may be our final fall. No one will be happier than I to be proven wrong.
George
Yuppers,
A lot of weaving, spinning and clipping ... mental castration over mythology?
I envision old iron side ... elm tree ... a hard case for a primitive carpenter to deal with ...
Thoughts on Revelation 6:7-11...
The tribulations' types became increasingly of a nature to strike terror into humanity's heart, "When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living being saying, 'Come and see.'" The eagle-faced being called John to witness.
John describes, "I saw, and, lo, a livid horse; and he that sat upon him, his name was Death, and Hell followed after him, and to them was given power over the earth's fourth part, to kill."
Here's a picture, the green horse and his rider Death, with Hell at his heels, with mortality as their punishment's instruments. Everything that'll bring death upon humanity's here represented.
Hell has no power over those that are in God’s hands. Amid death, missionaries are in life, for they're in Jesus' hands.
The fifth seal's opening, "When He opened the fifth seal. I beheld beneath the altar the souls of those that were slain on account, of God's Word and on account of the testimony which they bore." The scene's here transferred to heaven.
When the Lamb opened the scroll's fifth seal, there were disclosed before John the martyrs' souls.
The martyred souls are in God's care, where no plague can touch them. The martyred souls are represented, "They cried, saying, 'How long, God, will you delay in avenging our blood upon those that live upon the earth?'"
The martyred souls are shown crying to God for vengeance. Jesus' foes will be found by God, for their victims' blood cries to God from the earth. God will vindicate God's truth.
This' indicated, "There was given to every one, a white robe, and it was told them that they should remain quiet until there were added to them also their friends that were sure to be killed as they were."
White robes were given to the perfected saints in token of Jesus' righteousness which had been imputed to them by faith, by virtue of which their shame was covered.
The martyrs' number wasn't yet complete; as the foes' enmity increased, others would be added. Then God’s day of wrath would surprise God's foes. God’s justice would be vindicated. So patience's a great missional virtue.
The tribulations' types became increasingly of a nature to strike terror into humanity's heart, "When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living being saying, 'Come and see.'" The eagle-faced being called John to witness.
John describes, "I saw, and, lo, a livid horse; and he that sat upon him, his name was Death, and Hell followed after him, and to them was given power over the earth's fourth part, to kill."
Here's a picture, the green horse and his rider Death, with Hell at his heels, with mortality as their punishment's instruments. Everything that'll bring death upon humanity's here represented.
Hell has no power over those that are in God’s hands. Amid death, missionaries are in life, for they're in Jesus' hands.
The fifth seal's opening, "When He opened the fifth seal. I beheld beneath the altar the souls of those that were slain on account, of God's Word and on account of the testimony which they bore." The scene's here transferred to heaven.
When the Lamb opened the scroll's fifth seal, there were disclosed before John the martyrs' souls.
The martyred souls are in God's care, where no plague can touch them. The martyred souls are represented, "They cried, saying, 'How long, God, will you delay in avenging our blood upon those that live upon the earth?'"
The martyred souls are shown crying to God for vengeance. Jesus' foes will be found by God, for their victims' blood cries to God from the earth. God will vindicate God's truth.
This' indicated, "There was given to every one, a white robe, and it was told them that they should remain quiet until there were added to them also their friends that were sure to be killed as they were."
White robes were given to the perfected saints in token of Jesus' righteousness which had been imputed to them by faith, by virtue of which their shame was covered.
The martyrs' number wasn't yet complete; as the foes' enmity increased, others would be added. Then God’s day of wrath would surprise God's foes. God’s justice would be vindicated. So patience's a great missional virtue.
Given today's special effects, it could be a great movie.
Thoughts on Revelation 6:12-17...
The universe disintegrates, "And the heaven was removed a scroll, and every mountain and island was displaced." The heavens' firmament, secure for eternity, won't escape in the universe's last disturbances.
The firmament will be removed. And simultaneously the mountains that have withstood storms, and the islands that have defied hurricanes will be set aside, as no longer needed.
What effect this would have on people's shown, "Everyone hid themselves in the caves and in the mountains, and told the mountains and the rocks, 'Hide us from God and from Jesus; for their wrath's come, and who can stand?'" Here Jesus' foes' terror's delineated.
On the last day the world's leaders will sink and they'll seek respite. Wealth won't buy salvation, and oxen's strength won't effect escape. All will be on the same level, and no one will think of social distinctions.
And they'll all cower in terror and fly to the mountains' crags, hoping to find a spot where God's glances won't strike them, where Jesus' wrath won't find them.
That's what the sixth seal's breaking uncovered: the world's terrors on Judgment Day. Only the missionaries will rejoice on that day.
The universe disintegrates, "And the heaven was removed a scroll, and every mountain and island was displaced." The heavens' firmament, secure for eternity, won't escape in the universe's last disturbances.
The firmament will be removed. And simultaneously the mountains that have withstood storms, and the islands that have defied hurricanes will be set aside, as no longer needed.
What effect this would have on people's shown, "Everyone hid themselves in the caves and in the mountains, and told the mountains and the rocks, 'Hide us from God and from Jesus; for their wrath's come, and who can stand?'" Here Jesus' foes' terror's delineated.
On the last day the world's leaders will sink and they'll seek respite. Wealth won't buy salvation, and oxen's strength won't effect escape. All will be on the same level, and no one will think of social distinctions.
And they'll all cower in terror and fly to the mountains' crags, hoping to find a spot where God's glances won't strike them, where Jesus' wrath won't find them.
That's what the sixth seal's breaking uncovered: the world's terrors on Judgment Day. Only the missionaries will rejoice on that day.
unsafe
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Comment from above post ------ That's what the sixth seal's breaking uncovered: the world's terrors on Judgment Day. Only the missionaries will rejoice on that day.
unsafe says ---Not every Missionary will rejoice on that day according to scripture -----according to Scripture ---Only True Missionaries will rejoice -----There are many who claim to be Missionaries who really aren't -----A Missionary listens to what his Master teaches if the Master is not feeding truth about the Kingdom Judgment Day then the Missionary is out of luck as he or she is fed wrong information ------ This is very serious business as it is eternal life or death ---
This is From Jesus Himself -----
unsafe says --good example here --I know this has been posted in the passed but it does Justice to the scripture above ----
GOOD-O-METER
unsafe says ---Not every Missionary will rejoice on that day according to scripture -----according to Scripture ---Only True Missionaries will rejoice -----There are many who claim to be Missionaries who really aren't -----A Missionary listens to what his Master teaches if the Master is not feeding truth about the Kingdom Judgment Day then the Missionary is out of luck as he or she is fed wrong information ------ This is very serious business as it is eternal life or death ---
This is From Jesus Himself -----
unsafe says --good example here --I know this has been posted in the passed but it does Justice to the scripture above ----
GOOD-O-METER
Oh God on the last day when it broke I remembered all the things that should've been done under my leadership and I didn't ... like be kind to the one that didn't allow me to change what should've been. It helps to die to the situation so you won't worry it forever ...
Isn't that scene dippity ... and I was left glassy eye'd ...
Isn't that scene dippity ... and I was left glassy eye'd ...
chansen
Had a point all along
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That one-way swipe at high speed?
Thoughts on Revelation 7:1-3...
John was to be prepared for the events which were to follow the seventh seal's opening. It shows how Jesus protects those whom he's chosen. We can't make specific application to historical events.
John writes, "I saw 4 angels standing on the earth's 4 corners, holding the earth's 4 winds, lest the wind blow upon the earth, the sea or any tree."
4 angels are named according to the compass, thus signifying that there'd be universal ruin upon the earth. Their intention was to destroy earth, sea and all that they contained. Evil angels, they wanted harm all creatures.
Satan has the purpose of hindering the Gospel, and so he inspires false teachers to hold back the Spirit.
God came between, "I saw another angel going up from the east having God's seal, and he called to the 4 angels to whom consent had been given to injure the earth and sea, "First let us seal our God's servants on their foreheads."
Here's comfort for the missionaries. From the east, a 5th angel appears, a God-servant, the Covenant's Messenger. He bore God's seal, which gave him authority to carry out God’s commands without hindrance.
So his word as he called out to the 4 evil angels not to injure the earth, sea and all they contained until they should be given leave, was obeyed. The must stay their hands at the first word from God.
In this case God intended to have God's missionaries, God's elect, sealed upon their foreheads, to bear God's and the Lamb's names, to serve for their protection amid the last day. No one can pluck them out of God's hand.
John was to be prepared for the events which were to follow the seventh seal's opening. It shows how Jesus protects those whom he's chosen. We can't make specific application to historical events.
John writes, "I saw 4 angels standing on the earth's 4 corners, holding the earth's 4 winds, lest the wind blow upon the earth, the sea or any tree."
4 angels are named according to the compass, thus signifying that there'd be universal ruin upon the earth. Their intention was to destroy earth, sea and all that they contained. Evil angels, they wanted harm all creatures.
Satan has the purpose of hindering the Gospel, and so he inspires false teachers to hold back the Spirit.
God came between, "I saw another angel going up from the east having God's seal, and he called to the 4 angels to whom consent had been given to injure the earth and sea, "First let us seal our God's servants on their foreheads."
Here's comfort for the missionaries. From the east, a 5th angel appears, a God-servant, the Covenant's Messenger. He bore God's seal, which gave him authority to carry out God’s commands without hindrance.
So his word as he called out to the 4 evil angels not to injure the earth, sea and all they contained until they should be given leave, was obeyed. The must stay their hands at the first word from God.
In this case God intended to have God's missionaries, God's elect, sealed upon their foreheads, to bear God's and the Lamb's names, to serve for their protection amid the last day. No one can pluck them out of God's hand.
Thoughts on Revelation 7:4-8...
The total of those that were sealed with God's mark's announced. It's a number, intended to include all that are the true Israel, to the missionaries, of all tongues and people-groups.
☆ Judah's tribe's mentioned first, since Jacob's 4th son became the Messianic promise's bearer and the Messiah's forefather. ☆
The tribe's enumeration's also made to get the number 12, in keeping with accounting's ancient way. It's for this reason that Joseph's substituted for Ephraim, and that Dan's left out.
God's seal was placed upon the number of those whom God had chosen unto eternal life.
The total of those that were sealed with God's mark's announced. It's a number, intended to include all that are the true Israel, to the missionaries, of all tongues and people-groups.
☆ Judah's tribe's mentioned first, since Jacob's 4th son became the Messianic promise's bearer and the Messiah's forefather. ☆
The tribe's enumeration's also made to get the number 12, in keeping with accounting's ancient way. It's for this reason that Joseph's substituted for Ephraim, and that Dan's left out.
God's seal was placed upon the number of those whom God had chosen unto eternal life.
Thoughts on Revelation 7:9-12...
"A crowd standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white and holding palms."
Here's the Feast of Tabernacles' antitype, the missional Church in victory's vestments, ready to celebrate the festival of the final step into glory.
When tribulation's end will be at hand and God's Kingdom will be shown, then the missionaries will gather before God. They'll be in the righteousness imputed to them. They'll honor God.
John heard also their praise's hymn of praise, "They shouted, saying, 'Salvation to our God, that sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb.'"
Here's the saints' chorus in bliss, breaking forth. They ascribe their redemption to God, whose love's counsel prepared the world's redemption, and to the Lamb, whose death earned redemption for the world.
Glory to God's brought out. When praise's sung, "The angels fell down upon their faces and worshiped God, saying, "'Amen, praise be to God forever, Amen."
The angels are pictured as surrounding the throne, the elders and the cherubs, a bliss' witnesses' cloud. When the saint's doxology had ended, these spirits took up the refrain and enlarged upon it.
They agreed to the elect's song, for it's one Spirit that lives in the Church and in the angels. They sing in harmony now that humanity's fate has been unfolded.
Wisdom was shown in the means devised by God to redeem humanity; the might brought about humanity's deliverance through Jesus; and so glory must be given to him by the missionaries in bliss.
"A crowd standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white and holding palms."
Here's the Feast of Tabernacles' antitype, the missional Church in victory's vestments, ready to celebrate the festival of the final step into glory.
When tribulation's end will be at hand and God's Kingdom will be shown, then the missionaries will gather before God. They'll be in the righteousness imputed to them. They'll honor God.
John heard also their praise's hymn of praise, "They shouted, saying, 'Salvation to our God, that sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb.'"
Here's the saints' chorus in bliss, breaking forth. They ascribe their redemption to God, whose love's counsel prepared the world's redemption, and to the Lamb, whose death earned redemption for the world.
Glory to God's brought out. When praise's sung, "The angels fell down upon their faces and worshiped God, saying, "'Amen, praise be to God forever, Amen."
The angels are pictured as surrounding the throne, the elders and the cherubs, a bliss' witnesses' cloud. When the saint's doxology had ended, these spirits took up the refrain and enlarged upon it.
They agreed to the elect's song, for it's one Spirit that lives in the Church and in the angels. They sing in harmony now that humanity's fate has been unfolded.
Wisdom was shown in the means devised by God to redeem humanity; the might brought about humanity's deliverance through Jesus; and so glory must be given to him by the missionaries in bliss.
Thoughts on Revelation 7:13-17...
John reports, "There answered one of the elders, saying to me, "These clothed in white, who are they and where'd they come from?" The elder directed John's interest into the right channels. So he asked about the white-robed saints.
John’s answer, "I told him, 'Sir, you know.'" He received the response, "And he told me, These are they that've come out of the distress, and washed their robes and made them white in the Lamb's blood." The distress was persecution's period.
These people had overcome, they'd conquered, they'd been faithful unto death, and so God had rescued them, had brought them to safety's haven. Their own garments' filth had been washed away in Jesus' blood, which cleanses from all shame.
The white's Jesus' righteousness which they received through grace, to which they clung to the end. The elect are, "...before God's throne, and they serve God in God's temple, and God will overshadow them."
They're priests worshiping God without ceasing. God's presence will overshadow the elect in heaven, in order to be united with them and to satisfy them with God's gifts.
And pertaining to heaven, "They'll no more hunger or thirst, nor will there strike them any heat, for the Lamb will be their Shepherd and will direct their way to living waters' fountains; and God will wipe away every tear from them."
For those that are gathered before the Lamb's throne hunger, thirst, distress and pain are past. Jesus will lead them; even by springs will he guide them. Never again will sickness weary them.
For Jesus will be the Shepherd that will guide them to blessings' pastures; he'll lead them beside life's waters.
He's the bread, the manna, and life's water. He himself satisfies hunger and thirst. What they've received on earth in grace, they now obtain in measure as they see God, as they partake of the glory which Jesus gained for them.
Never again will there be a cause for tears. The last tear that may've remained on their eyelashes will be wiped away, without a trace to show their misery. That's the future that awaits God's Church when eternity's doors open. That this comfort were living in every missionary.
John reports, "There answered one of the elders, saying to me, "These clothed in white, who are they and where'd they come from?" The elder directed John's interest into the right channels. So he asked about the white-robed saints.
John’s answer, "I told him, 'Sir, you know.'" He received the response, "And he told me, These are they that've come out of the distress, and washed their robes and made them white in the Lamb's blood." The distress was persecution's period.
These people had overcome, they'd conquered, they'd been faithful unto death, and so God had rescued them, had brought them to safety's haven. Their own garments' filth had been washed away in Jesus' blood, which cleanses from all shame.
The white's Jesus' righteousness which they received through grace, to which they clung to the end. The elect are, "...before God's throne, and they serve God in God's temple, and God will overshadow them."
They're priests worshiping God without ceasing. God's presence will overshadow the elect in heaven, in order to be united with them and to satisfy them with God's gifts.
And pertaining to heaven, "They'll no more hunger or thirst, nor will there strike them any heat, for the Lamb will be their Shepherd and will direct their way to living waters' fountains; and God will wipe away every tear from them."
For those that are gathered before the Lamb's throne hunger, thirst, distress and pain are past. Jesus will lead them; even by springs will he guide them. Never again will sickness weary them.
For Jesus will be the Shepherd that will guide them to blessings' pastures; he'll lead them beside life's waters.
He's the bread, the manna, and life's water. He himself satisfies hunger and thirst. What they've received on earth in grace, they now obtain in measure as they see God, as they partake of the glory which Jesus gained for them.
Never again will there be a cause for tears. The last tear that may've remained on their eyelashes will be wiped away, without a trace to show their misery. That's the future that awaits God's Church when eternity's doors open. That this comfort were living in every missionary.
Thoughts on Revelation 8:1-6...
Things intensify, "When he opened the seventh seal, silence reigned in heaven for thirty minutes." It was an expectation-silence. The plagues that were about to be shown were the greatest which would strike the Church.
Next, an activity ensued which prepared for the coming events, " I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets." Trumpet's use's associated in Scriptures with announcements intended for crowds.
Here the 7 angels that were in God's service are mentioned. The trumpets were given to them so that they could be God's heralds. They now stood ready, with their trumpets at their mouths, waiting for the signal to proclaim doom.
Next, "Another angel came and stood next to the altar, having a censer, and to him was given incense, that he might add it to the saints' prayers on the altar before the throne." This points to solemnity. Worship's performed with holy dignity.
This angel's Jesus. The saints' prayers offered Jesus to God. This was acceptable to God, "The incence's smoke arose with the saints' prayers out of the angel's hand before God."
The straight ascent of a sacrifice's smoke signified that God looked upon it graciously, that the saints' prayers met with God's approval, as they're sure to do if made according to God's will, for Jesus' sake.
The angel's last action was significant, "The angel took the censer, and filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth; and there occurred thunderings, voices, lightnings and an earthquake."
The fire's a Word-manifestation. This Word's proclamation's thunder in hearts, a voice in minds, lightning in revealing the heart and in working divine things, an earthquake in working changes in hearer's lives.
These acts having occurred, all was ready for the trumpets' playing, "The seven angels that had the seven trumpets readied themselves to trumpet."
Things intensify, "When he opened the seventh seal, silence reigned in heaven for thirty minutes." It was an expectation-silence. The plagues that were about to be shown were the greatest which would strike the Church.
Next, an activity ensued which prepared for the coming events, " I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets." Trumpet's use's associated in Scriptures with announcements intended for crowds.
Here the 7 angels that were in God's service are mentioned. The trumpets were given to them so that they could be God's heralds. They now stood ready, with their trumpets at their mouths, waiting for the signal to proclaim doom.
Next, "Another angel came and stood next to the altar, having a censer, and to him was given incense, that he might add it to the saints' prayers on the altar before the throne." This points to solemnity. Worship's performed with holy dignity.
This angel's Jesus. The saints' prayers offered Jesus to God. This was acceptable to God, "The incence's smoke arose with the saints' prayers out of the angel's hand before God."
The straight ascent of a sacrifice's smoke signified that God looked upon it graciously, that the saints' prayers met with God's approval, as they're sure to do if made according to God's will, for Jesus' sake.
The angel's last action was significant, "The angel took the censer, and filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth; and there occurred thunderings, voices, lightnings and an earthquake."
The fire's a Word-manifestation. This Word's proclamation's thunder in hearts, a voice in minds, lightning in revealing the heart and in working divine things, an earthquake in working changes in hearer's lives.
These acts having occurred, all was ready for the trumpets' playing, "The seven angels that had the seven trumpets readied themselves to trumpet."
Redbaron
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What a whirl....
Here's a strange coincidence ... the mathematical formula that ascribes a sphere if reciprocated upon comes out like a water spout over a pool ... with an upended reflection ... awesomely unreal! resembles >|< on aside ... parable?
How did they do that? Some sentiens, they say are just that sappy with thought that it is beyond ordinary mob I-ous drips with it ... that human pool!
It was there then it evaporated ... flash dried in an arid place ... a British sol?
It is said there is no strange intelligence that is better carried than in a myth ... thus all that we don't know is subtle ...
Like partisan parables these too are underground to to opposition to common knowledge ... and commonly we don't know better so as to experience the presence of nothing ... a grandfather told me this ... still questionable! Here I rest ...
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