The Church Vs. The State Civil Disobedience

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GeoFee said:
I am very careful. Having been a follower of Jesus for a fair while, I have put off much of my old self. This while growing into my new self. That self being one with Christ. I am not there yet, but the goal is now in clear view. Once the goal is obtained, by the Grace of God, I will certainly face strong opposition. My two exemplars along this way are Jesus and Socrates. Each being murdered for expressing an alternative to the dominant consciousness of their respective cultures (Hebrew - Greek).
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There are people far more vulnerable to being murdered by the state, as per recent legislation about MAiD, than you are. And those same people, if we are going to be an inclusive society need to be protected while they are in society, as much as possible. Right now, that means restrictions to the mainstream on doing some things they feel entitled to do - so that people who are vulnerable are more safe.
 
Today is the 20th of March 2021 World Wide Rally For Freedom.

Vera Sharav is a holocaust survivor and a human rights advocate that has posted a video to The Ralley Facebook page that I will try to link here ... she considers it "of urgency to all of humanity"

I have listened to it and I am inclined to heed her warning.

She is speaking from from her own experience ...

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Total freedom is destructive without some sense of responsibility ... possibly giving some hint to our great desire to not be responsible for anything and head off into oblivion ... said to be a simile for nothing ... and thus the great ado about the paradox, enigma, or duplicity posed here to gather some attention for a flash of time ... Oh Nicks or Onyx as a dark gemstone like the core of the mind ... pointed graphite? Thoughts are thus penciled in ...

Thus connections, relations, in sects and alternate ways given the need for the genes to go on recreating after they came up with a solution to putting down the last hard thought about victory ... redde into Slaughterhouse 5! The myth is all about meat markets and butchery ... and brute powers love it ...

Again I ask about the healthy and who suffers psychosis! Some believe what we don't know is a small thing ... and it is their freedom to go there ... as a point of wrinkle in the field of time! Metaphor as a myth? I really can't tell yah ...
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
There are people far more vulnerable to being murdered by the state, as per recent legislation about MAiD, than you are. And those same people, if we are going to be an inclusive society need to be protected while they are in society, as much as possible. Right now, that means restrictions to the mainstream on doing some things they feel entitled to do - so that people who are vulnerable are more safe.
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Good points. Wonder how you think about the poverty epidemic that has infected our culture through all the years? What measures have been put in place to limit the excesses of the privileged few in order to include the excluded majority?
 
GeoFee said:
Good points. Wonder how you think about the poverty epidemic that has infected our culture through all the years? What measures have been put in place to limit the excesses of the privileged few in order to include the excluded majority?
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Creates some dis ease ... and thus stimulati! With all taken away just a shaft ...
 
GeoFee said:
Good points. Wonder how you think about the poverty epidemic that has infected our culture through all the years? What measures have been put in place to limit the excesses of the privileged few in order to include the excluded majority?
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I’ve been living it most of my adult life. And there are not enough limits on capitalist excess. But that has nothing to do with these pastors. Their churches are full of people who want to get back to capitalist excess. They’re using the church, to argue for freedom of religion in an effort to open things up, when what they really want is no restrictions at all so they can all get back to full capitalist excess again.

churches in black communities where people are at risk have not been demanding full reopening, nor have the Catholic Churches attended by people of colour, that I know of. places of worship normally mostly attended by non white people are not protesting the restrictions. Nor have temples and mosques where poc attend and are at higher risk. Nor have disabled people (were used to not being able to get into places) It‘s well off spoiled pro-capitalist white people who have been leading the charge against Covid restrictions. I’m not sure how you didn’t notice that.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
It‘s well off spoiled pro-capitalist white people who have been leading the charge against Covid restrictions. I’m not sure how you didn’t notice that.
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I watched about 8 hours of freedom rally video today ... the main focus seemed to be on protecting the children from being further drawn into this dystopian nightmare. All the children ... not just the rich white children.
 
Mother Murphy ... the source of Murphy's loss ... and there is was gone ... or as some say it appeared not to be the case.

Such things pop up without evidence as they may be abstractions ... part of that which isn't ... the human psche having departed due to excess wants, wishes and desires of the unneeded control functions if we'd just be moderate! This is against polity ...

It is far beyond either extreme side ...
 
A little of Mother Murphy in everything because of the sense of scatter ... or scattered senses!

Thus one should gather a bit from everywhere ... including nowhere ... where is the abstract does its thing ... rising from a distant point!

The vanishing point from which Escher's illusionary architecture is aroused ... all within the head stored away from reality (mostly about lies)!

Divining lies is a great separatory function ... like reverse bifurcation! The Y against the Λ ... the later representing light, levity and illumination ...

Life is like out on the Moors ... considering the ups and downs ... many downs caused in*humanity ... brut? That's power for corruption ... caution or you might be burned in this perfect place (according to a faction that will put restraints on nothing but not themselves). Thus even the gods and demons are set free ... some are against setting demons free as they interfere with wants ... inhibiting by obscurity?

Thus fear of the unknown ... I.E. the psyche we are unconscious to/of/for etc. ...

What do we really know is in that thing denied and out there? Is it religious or corporeal? Could we take a caning from it? Therein cause for rheid 'n the myth! Like cattails growing all around ... obscurity in the shadows!
 
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PilgrimsProgress said:
Canada doesn't have a monopoly on nutters - Australia also has sandwiches short of a picnic........
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I take it you were not willing to watch the video ... you know everything there is to know about everything ... calling the parents of vaccine damaged children and those children themselves - nutters and sandwiches short of a picnic ... willful ignorance is no excuse.

My individual perspective draws me to the silver linings, because they always exist.

The Church ... from my perspective is the human beings that go out into the 'public sqare' and speak to truth ... even as they are persecuted for doing so by a Statist worshiping collective ... who I can only imagine actually 'believe' that they are doing their civic duty by 'following orders'.

The silver lining is that much of the world (yes even Canada) now has the lived experience of Statism, that ugly ideology that posits that force is a better way to organize the world than choice.

We dabbled in it as societies for the better part of 100 years and then suddenly in one year we went full on, just as a test.

That test completely failed. Those of us that are paying attention know it.

People coming out and resisting the state are growing in numbers not shrinking.

Putting that Holy Spirit Genie back in the bottle is getting more and more difficult for the state to enforce.

This gives me a measure of hope that we have seen the worst of it.

Now there is still a chance – right now – to choose a better path.

Never lockdowns. Never again.
 
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Ritafee said:
The Church ... from my perspective is the human beings that go out into the 'public sqare' and speak to truth ... even as they are persecuted for doing so by a Statist worshiping collective
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This is the pattern evident in the Gospel narratives. The pattern is also present in the Hebrew Scriptures. For me, this pattern is at work in our time. In cities around the world persons are protesting the abuse of State power. These are resisted by the police under the direction of the State.

Even so the protest movement is growing. As it grows we learn what works well and what does not work at all. Soon we will achieve a global unity of vision and purpose. Not as conformity to the structures of power, but as the obedience to the voice of instinct. Refusing to hear that voice will lead us into chaos.
 
Ritafee said:
Today is the 20th of March 2021 World Wide Rally For Freedom.

Vera Sharav is a holocaust survivor and a human rights advocate that has posted a video to The Ralley Facebook page that I will try to link here ... she considers it "of urgency to all of humanity"

I have listened to it and I am inclined to heed her warning.

She is speaking from from her own experience ...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=276440454002434
























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I very much appreciated her words. They are contrary to the dominant policy. They are rooted in rich human experience and spoken in earnest. For me she deserves careful critical thought. She does not deserve a simple dismissal. Yet many will do so.
 
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