The Battleford Trial ... what's at stake?

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Waterfall said:
Helicopters would help.
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I don't know Saskatchewan (never been there) but do you know how many similar isolated communities there are scattered all over Newfoundland? Especially on the south coast, where there really aren't any roads connecting the various communities? Do you know how expensive it would be to purchase and maintain enough helicopters to police them? I would imagine (from what I'm reading here) that Saskatchewan is no different.
 
I bet we might see drones one day. Drones could get to the scene and take pictures and video. They could drop defibrillators. They could follow cars. They could be remotely located and dispatched immediately by GPS and wireless signal.
 
revsdd said:
I don't know Saskatchewan (never been there) but do you know how many similar isolated communities there are scattered all over Newfoundland? Especially on the south coast, where there really aren't any roads connecting the various communities? Do you know how expensive it would be to purchase and maintain enough helicopters to police them? I would imagine (from what I'm reading here) that Saskatchewan is no different.
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Probably as much as it cost to maintain a coast guard(Newfoundland), but it's done.
 
Waterfall said:
Probably as much as it cost to maintain a coast guard(Newfoundland), but it's done.
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Since policing is a provincial responsibility (the provinces that don't have provincial police forces contract with the feds to have the RCMP provide provincial policing services) I'll let you contact Newfoundland Premier Dwight Ball to offer him some advice on how he's going to find the money to pay for all those helicopters that he's going to provide the RCMP with.
 
revsdd said:
Since policing is a provincial responsibility (the provinces that don't have provincial police forces contract with the feds to have the RCMP provide provincial policing services) I'll let you contact Newfoundland Premier Dwight Ball to offer him some advice on how he's going to find the money to pay for all those helicopters that he's going to provide the RCMP with.
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Well doesn't it really come down to analyzing how many incidents would have occurred during the past years to determine how many would be required? And if the residents can organize Firearms for Farmers...surely the RCMP could approach them with authority to act, on the basis that indigenous people are included, and the legal standards are upheld?
If some people are concerned enough, they could organize police fundraisers.
 
My father used to say "If you can come up with a quick easy solution you haven't understood the magnitude of the problem".

Money is needed for health care, education, roads and bridges, policing etc already. Harper gutted many services - I can't imagine how the province would find money for helicopters, pilots, support services, landing pads etc..

The vast majority of trespassing problems are dealt with without guns.

Are you suggesting that the RCMP should 'approve' of groups like Firearms for Farmers and Farmers with Guns? That could be tantamount to declaring open season on indigenous people. Some people react with the same type of irrational fear to indigenous people as Americans do to blacks. Shoot on sight - stand your ground.
We have more than enough problem with careless hunters!
 
Responsibility comes with rational ... beware of persons putting forth pure free wiles ... they be dangerous with fire of any kind!
 
The other thing I don't understand about this case is Mr. Stanley's choice of firearm, a semi-automatic pistol. The farmers I know have long guns, usually in the cab of the combine with them. I read an article that explained, "you get the odd skunk out in the field, and they're not fussy on shooing when told to shoo, and one thing you don't want is a skunk going through your harvester..."
 
BetteTheRed said:
The other thing I don't understand about this case is Mr. Stanley's choice of firearm, a semi-automatic pistol. The farmers I know have long guns, usually in the cab of the combine with them. I read an article that explained, "you get the odd skunk out in the field, and they're not fussy on shooing when told to shoo, and one thing you don't want is a skunk going through your harvester..."
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A skink in the plans?
 
BetteTheRed said:
"you get the odd skunk out in the field, and they're not fussy on shooing when told to shoo, and one thing you don't want is a skunk going through your harvester..."
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Or in this part of the country, bears, cougars, moose and deer......
 
KayTheCurler said:
My father used to say "If you can come up with a quick easy solution you haven't understood the magnitude of the problem".

Money is needed for health care, education, roads and bridges, policing etc already. Harper gutted many services - I can't imagine how the province would find money for helicopters, pilots, support services, landing pads etc..

The vast majority of trespassing problems are dealt with without guns.

Are you suggesting that the RCMP should 'approve' of groups like Firearms for Farmers and Farmers with Guns? That could be tantamount to declaring open season on indigenous people. Some people react with the same type of irrational fear to indigenous people as Americans do to blacks. Shoot on sight - stand your ground.
We have more than enough problem with careless hunters!
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Not at all...I'm suggesting turning that group around for the good.Legally along with integrating indigenous representation.
Does Saskatchewan not use helicopters for traffic control?
 
Traffic is ethereal ... quite thin ... a retired RCMP officer once related that he and partner needed to respond to report to a report of gunfire in the area where the pair was practicing shots at prairie hares ... in the open not all that hairy Sal Lei ...

Fuzzy flowers or wandering gorse as tumble weed ... a woman told me years ago a bit of weed caused her some forbidden urges ... dark blossoming?

There are some really wild and open TED.talks on female sexuality ... embarrass the eL out of some stringent characters! Make a real a' men out've M ... C'est fini ... the ephemeral climax (in-line of consecutively)!

Timing 's critical and some powers have no use for time ... blue IT!

Thus odd denigrated southern hang-ups with some Muse IQ! Nash vile brasserie ... more to beer!
 
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Waterfall could you elaborate on the first two sentences you used. Do you mean 'telling the armed, racist farmers to shape up and stop discriminating against indigenous people'?

As to helicopters I've never seen one used for traffic control in SK. Traffic around here tends to be a bit few and far between except on a few major highways. We have often driven for an hour or more without seeing another moving vehicle. I have rarely been on the #1 or the highway between Regina and Saskatoon so I really don't know. I have seen helicopters being used for fighting forest fires though. They are used as ambulances sometimes too.
 
BetteTheRed said:
That's an awesome little documentary. It's on my list of conversation starters for my Tuesday night group, and possibly a Sunday after church "Conversations that Matter".
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I like this film on many levels. The experiences therein exemplify the process of engaging with neighbours - exploring and building relationship with "the other" whomever that "other" may be. In every community I think there are "others" with whom churches could be building transformational relationships ... and here is an example of how we might go about that.
 
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