Snoopy Examines Exodus

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Well, I remind myself @Jae that this is the same God who destroyed the world with a flood. Compared to that, what are 10 plagues and a little plundering, eh? ;)
 
Well, I remind myself @Jae that this is the same God who destroyed the world with a flood. Compared to that, what are 10 plagues and a little plundering, eh? ;)
Let's approach such topics with a grasping of God’s nature. The events you mentioned are indeed significant and show God’s justice.

The flood was a response to humanity's wickedness at that time. It was an act of mercy, as God preserved Noah and his family to start anew. And, hey, God gave us the rainbow for the first time after the flood, so that's something. In the same way, the ten plagues showed God’s power.

In both instances, we see a God who's loving. He provides a way of rescue. The plundering must be seen as a form of reparation for the years of oppression and forced labor the Israelites endured.

I believe that God’s actions are always part of His divine plan. I trust in His wisdom. It’s through this lens that I appreciate the depth of God’s love. In faith, I'm called to trust in God’s Kingship and to seek his guidance in grasping the complexities of his actions throughout history. Blessings
 
ANd the relationship shown between G-d and the people in Exodus is not friendship. Friendship does not call for obedience for one thing.
The exodus presumes the status of Israel as God's chosen people in fulfillment of god's covenant with Abraham.
It is precisely Abraham's obedience to God's call that makes him and by extension Israel "the friend of God." (see Isaiah 41:8).
 
It is precisely Abraham's obedience to God's call that makes him and by extension Israel "the friend of God." (see Isaiah 41:8).
So as long as you're obedient to friends, you can have friends?
Sounds more like a master slave relationship....isn't that what they were escaping from?
 
So as long as you're obedient to friends, you can have friends?
Sounds more like a master slave relationship....isn't that what they were escaping from?
Also it's kinda rare for friends to demand circumcision as a condition of friendship.

In tomorrow's reading we will learn that the Israelites are welcome to invite guests to Passover festivities. But only if these guests are circumcised.
 
Pure speculation, but I wonder after being in Egypt for almost 500 years if there were many Israelites that considered Egypt home now. From archaeology and histories it seemed to be a land of milk and honey itself.
Archeology has also revealed that the pyramids may not have been built by slaves but by paid workers.
Initially, from the OTs narrative, through Joseph's connections in Egypt, the Israelites were welcomed. At what point did they start to be treated as slaves and want to leave?
 
So as long as you're obedient to friends, you can have friends?
Sounds more like a master slave relationship....isn't that what they were escaping from?
Friendship with God is not the typical relationship between peers.
Humans don't worship their friends.
 
I once had a clergyperson (albeit an uber progressive one) who said that worship just means "holding up as worthy".
UUs use it that way, but it is certainly not what worship meant in ancient times. Or at least, holding something up as worthy meant a lot more.
 
When does God start to show mercy? This is what I am wondering now. More than engaging in warfare on behalf of God's chosen people (arguably God's own tribe).
Your question touches on a deep aspect of God’s nature.

God’s mercy's an eternal attribute of his character. The Scriptures reveal that God’s mercy's everlasting and is extended to his people from the start.

In the OT, we see God’s mercy in his friendship with Abraham and his love for Israel, despite their disobedience.

In the NT, God’s mercy is shown through Jesus's life, death, and resurrection. This's my faith's foundation and my rescue's assurance.

God’s mercy's available to all who seek him. God’s mercy's ever-present and continually offered to His Creation. It testifies to His faithfulness.

May you continue to find comfort in God's mercy
 
And you actually believe the ancient Israelites embraced that highly limit ed concept of worship?
No I didn't say that at all. I thought we were speaking more generally about friendship and worship (i.e. when you pointed out that people don't worship their friends.)
 

God gives specific instructions about sharing the Passover with others.

Foreigners? No.

Slaves which have been purchased? Yes, if they are circumcised.

Indentured or hired servants? No.

Aliens residing among the Israelites? Yes, if they are circumcised.

And further, the Passover lamb must be eaten in one house and none of its bones broke.
 
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Exodus 12: 43-50

Hmmm. This covenant of circumcision is so important to God.

As a tribal god, God is starting to become slightly more inclusive, no? :unsure:
 
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Exodus 12: 43-50

Hmmm. This covenant of circumcision is so important to God.

As a tribal god, God is starting to become slightly more inclusive, no? :unsure:
It may be that God doesn't see it as inclusiveness but rather as a way for us to recognize " the light" directed towards all nations.
In Christianity it's Jesus.
Did God change that? Or have Christians been led astray to think Jesus is more than a prophet?
 
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Exodus 12: 43-50

Hmmm. This covenant of circumcision is so important to God.

As a tribal god, God is starting to become slightly more inclusive, no? :unsure:
This passage indeed stresses the significance of circumcision, which was a sign of the covenant between God and his people, Israel.

I grasp God as the King of all Creation. Circumcision was a way to set apart the Israelites as God’s chosen people, a precursor to the more inclusive covenant established through Jesus.

In this passage, we see God’s instructions for the Passover, which included provisions for foreigners who wished to join the Israelites in worship. This foreshadows the greater inclusivity found in the NT, where the Good News's extended to all people groups.

God’s plan has always been to bring people from every tribe, tongue, and people group into his fold, and circumcision was an early step in that redemptive plan.

Grace and peace to you as you continue to explore these deep truths
 
It may be that God doesn't see it as inclusiveness but rather as a way for us to recognize " the light" directed towards all nations.
In Christianity it's Jesus.
Did God change that? Or have Christians been led astray to think Jesus is more than a prophet?
Believe that God’s plan for rescue has always been consistent.

In Christianity, Jesus's indeed recognised as “the light” directed towards all people groups. This is rooted in the belief that Jesus's God the Son, the Messiah, and the world's Rescuer. The NT affirms this.

Christians believe that recognising Jesus as more than a prophet's an acknowledgment of the fullness of God’s revelation in Jesus. This belief's central to the Christian faith.

Grace and peace to you as you continue to seek truth
 
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