Receiving the Holy Spirit - John 20:19-23 and Acts 2

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HOwever the Godhead is beyond genger anyway, so maybe the modern English usage for the first and third persons of the Trinity should really be They.

Indeed. I tend to just stick to the nouns for God and Spirit and things like that, but agree that "they" might now be the most appropriate pronoun. In some of my fantasy stories where I have genderless or non-binary spirits, that's exactly what I do.

 

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Indeed. I tend to just stick to the nouns for God and Spirit and things like that, but agree that "they" might now be the most appropriate pronoun. In some of my fantasy stories where I have genderless or non-binary spirits, that's exactly what I do.

If an essence or ghost of a material is like estrogen, or others ... could they be declared feminine when there is some of this essences in a man and vice versa. We loose so much of this context over long periods of time ... when context disappears.

Some folk say that pagan people didn't know ... but there are indications that there were highly knowledge able people in the past. How do you suppose these civilizations were lost, if it was really true. Then if human powers hate knowledge does it degrade over time?

Did you ever get the idea with societal trends that we are losing something?

It is said that genes, hormones, etc. are critically complex in human behaviour!

Some powers seem to despise such potential within common people ... thus further negative conclusions ... the gilt sector will probably outshine us ...

 

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How is the Holy Spirit like a fire?​

How is the Holy Spirit like a fire? | GotQuestions.org

How is the Holy Spirit like a fire? What does the phrase 'Holy Spirit Fire' refer to?

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The Bible describes God as “a consuming fire” (Hebrews 12:29), so it is not surprising that fire often appears as a symbol of God’s presence. Examples include the burning bush (Exodus 3:2), the Shekinah glory (Exodus 14:19; Numbers 9:15-16), and Ezekiel’s vision (Ezekiel 1:4). Fire has many times been an instrument of God’s judgment (Numbers 11:1, 3; 2 Kings 1:10, 12) and a sign of His power (Judges 13:20; 1 Kings 18:38).

For obvious reasons, fire was important for the Old Testament sacrifices. The fire on the altar of burnt offering was a divine gift, having been lit originally by God Himself (Leviticus 9:24). God charged the priests with keeping His fire lit (Leviticus 6:13) and made it clear that fire from any other source was unacceptable (Leviticus 10:1-2).

In the New Testament, the altar can serve as a picture of our commitment to the Lord. As believers in Jesus Christ, we are called upon to offer our bodies as “living sacrifices” (Romans 12:1), engulfed by the divine gift: the inextinguishable fire of the Holy Spirit. At the very beginning of the New Testament, the Holy Spirit is associated with fire. John the Baptist predicts that Jesus will be the One to “baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire” (Matthew 3:11). When the Holy Spirit began His ministry of indwelling the early church, He chose to appear as “tongues of fire” resting on each of the believers. At that moment, “all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them” (Acts 2:3-4).

Fire is a wonderful picture of the work of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is like a fire in at least three ways: He brings God’s presence, God’s passion, and God’s purity. The Holy Spirit is the presence of God as He indwells the heart of the believer (Romans 8:9).

In the Old Testament, God showed His presence to the Israelites by overspreading the tabernacle with fire (Numbers 9:14-15). This fiery presence provided light and guidance (Numbers 9:17-23).

In the New Testament, God guides and comforts His children with the Holy Spirit dwelling in our bodies—the “tabernacle” and the “temple of the living God” (2 Corinthians 5:1; 6:16).

The Holy Spirit creates the passion of God in our hearts. After the two traveling disciples talk with the resurrected Jesus, they describe their hearts as “burning within us” (Luke 24:32). After the apostles receive the Spirit at Pentecost, they have a passion that lasts a lifetime and impels them to speak the word of God boldly (Acts 4:31).

The Holy Spirit produces the purity of God in our lives.

God’s purpose is to purify us (Titus 2:14), and the Spirit is the agent of our sanctification (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2). His fire cleanses and refines.

 

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In Acts 2:13 ----we see that people were mocking the Disciples saying they were like drunk with wine ----

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But others were laughing and joking and ridiculing them, saying, “They are full of sweet wine and are drunk!”
I say -----Now this verse here ====some Religious groups and Ministers have taken this verse and use it to say when your filled with the Holy Spirit it intoxicates the mind ===and makes you act crazy ---uncontrollable laughing ----Stomping your feet ----throwing yourself around ---etc ---

I say ----this is how dangerous it is to misinterpret scripture and take one verse of Scripture and make your own Doctrine out of it ------

this is one such video with Kenneth Hagin and this is what he tells his Church

To keep from all the nasty stuff on TV, Internet and the air waves from intoxicating your mind, I recommend you get drunk daily by taking just one dose of the Holy Ghost and maintain a spirit filled life.

I say -----Some use it as being Slain in the Spirit ----people falling on the Floor ---

I say --------Spooky Pookey stuff ----not Scriptural Folks ------no where do you see any Scripture that depicts this type of behaviour nonsense by the infilling of the Holy Spirit

 

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Many say ---you can't tell who has the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and who hasn't -----

Well In my view you can -----the Holy Spirit produces Spiritual Fruit in the Believer which can be see in this Physical world by others --

this Fruit comes from within and works outward to be seen -----

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Dr. David Jeremiah’s teachings on the fruit of the Spirit, grounded in Galatians 5:22-23, focus on nine virtues produced inside out by the Holy Spirit. Rather than resulting from human strain, these characteristics—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control—are natural reflections of a Spirit-controlled life

The 9-Fold Fruit of the Spirit
According to Dr. Jeremiah’s ministry, these nine virtues are divided into three core categories:

• Inward Attitudes:Love: The foundational, unselfish agape love that is meant to characterize all Christians.
• Joy: A deep, inward gladness that transcends outward circumstances.

• Peace: An inner tranquility provided by God, even in the midst of life's storms.

• Outward Actions:
  • Patience (Longsuffering): The ability to endure hardships and tolerate others with an even temper.
    
    Kindness: Showing grace and compassion toward those around you.
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    Goodness: Benevolence and active generosity demonstrated through your deeds.

Godward Commitments:

Faithfulness: Being dependable, loyal, and true to God and others.

Gentleness (Meekness): Strength under control; a humble and gentle spirit.

Self-Control: The restraint over one's own desires and passions. [1, 2, 3, 4]

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Transformation, Not Toiletry: Dr. Jeremiah emphasizes that we cannot manufacture spiritual fruit by our own efforts.

Just as physical fruit grows naturally from a healthy tree, these traits grow naturally from a person who is connected to Christ and walking in the Spirit.

The Fruit is Singular: He notes that the Bible refers to these characteristics as "fruit" (singular) rather than "fruits".

They represent a cohesive, unified picture of Christ-like character, with love AGAPE acting as the root and fertilizer for all the other traits

 

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If God is all over ... does the unknown create globs and lumps in the cosmos?

Thus Forest Gump's as darker gatherings ... where the light flees! Really well related to trees ...