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Luce NDs said:
There are variants tho' what some call deviations from the roués as defined by authority on laws of gramma ... this overlaps the guidelines of myths and the integral understanding thereof ... S(myths)? Like human sickness ... the absence of mind? This would be the infamous dark void ... and the Shadow knows ... whereas emotional gods don't! Alas they lead us into all kinds of failures ... like the Canadian economy where they loan to business at low rates ... but common people are discouraged from following suit!

So what really counts ... industry and business or ... people stopped and observing the insanity?

I have my perspective, you have yours and the corporate reality has another.

I was told today of another Canadian Corporate concern leaving town, closing down operations without telling their employees ... all the wile b'ithcing about lack of employee loyaltee ... like leader ... something follows ... imitation across time ... pas'over?

The only thing that sinks in is the story as altruism is oppressed! This may be poorly understood by those not observing the detailing of the story! But alas it is me that s declared crazy for pondering the complexity when the corporation would like simplicity in the workers: mules or numb drones?
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The reformer is always right about what is wrong. He is generally wrong about what is right.
 
Hermann said:
Actually, I think we are there, all of us, all of the time--if only we were aware of it! Eden is in us and all around us, but, alas, most of us are not aware of this. And even those of us who are aware of the ultimate paradisical state of being sometimes slip and lose the awareness. But, once we have been there, we can easily find our way back.
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Half an hour's meditation is essential except when you are very busy. Then a full hour is needed. Saint Francis de Sales
 
In the spring of 2010, I stood by my paternal grandfather's grave in Friesland, the land of my birth. There I covenanted with his name and the name of his God. In effect, from that point I have known myself as a dying person. I understand this as stepping out of preoccupation with material concern to enter a process of transformation by the embrace of spiritual concern. Daily I abandon my trust in the powers by which I had been shaped and governed. Daily I seek alternative where it may be found.

George
 
Then Geo ... you like Sisyphus have gotten over the hump of life too ... where people seem to be 'eLLe bent to screw everything out of shape ... unlike thinking daemons that support the generators of lies so profusely.

In such profuse chaos (a theory) there is obtuse -ite, where a character can hide the pilgrimage into the future in prophetic chaos theory. You can't clear this at this time and space ... as it is religiously illegal for pagans to know such stuff as common people ... that's the paradigm humpage ... a pile needed to support a market place ... some call this a curve, some say it is just an insane bump in space ... that's earth as a dark mire thing! There's so much moor!

A German Monk in medieval times reported this as the warpage of Lucrece ... a Roman Poet that was eliminated by Rome. We know little of this church history ... as we're conditioned not to think about it .. even though Erasmus almost lost his head over the matter when going up against the church halls stand against education of Gods children. God did say that didn't chi? But alas naïveté rules as a roué ... and thus the allegory goes on ... it does amuse the isolated rare soul ... a character thin in quality so they can get between thin letters ... ethereal thoughts?
 
We humans evolved the capacity to think logically, conceptually, and abstractly. This became our species-specific ability. It enabled us to exploit our environment and each other like no other species before us.

Was the evolution of logical intelligence in us humans just a fluke, a chance mutation? Or does it serve a higher purpose?

If we, as we do at present, use our logical intellect solely to satisfy our basic animal instincts and over-exploit each other and our planetary environment, then our logical intellect can become a mutation gone wrong. Then, like all other past mutations gone wrong, our species will be snuffed out by the greater power that balances everything.

If we take more from life than we give back to it, under the mistaken assumption that we thereby enrich ourselves and render ourselves safer, more comfortable and secure, then this will become a suicidal course for our species. Then the greater power will snuff us out. But if, on the other hand, we take no more than we give, or, preferably, give a little more than we take and thereby enrich the whole, then the greater power which balances everything will smile on us and enable us to survive and thrive.

Whether our ability to think logically will lift us to a higher plane of existence or lead us to self-destruction is up to us. The thinking human mind is its own saviour and/or destroyer.
 
"Solutions in silence and still Ness ..."
Let me stop an thin Ka moment ... calm my emotions ... and I conceive of a man in a bar soude a 'ere :

  • I was sitting in My-amis drinking blended whiskey down, when this ole grey-black gentleman
  • Was cleaning up the lounge, there wasn't anyone there but this old man and me
  • The man who tended the bar was watching ironsides on TV
  • Uninvited he sat down and opened up heis mind ...
Wait a moment ... opened up his mind? Is this possible if the mind/soul/psyche has been eliminated in an emotional domain?

God ... like murphy in the roués that if it's possible will it happen? Such is a dark flouring and the Shadow be Piscine! Later your gu'Oz 'll be cooked ... at least like Daniel ... slightly roasted by your own emotions if uncooled by superfluous thoughts!

Can you teach an ole dawg tricks domesticate the aged mind? It is the most primitive thingy! Like devoid ID is ...
 
Ever meet a Ka ND old isolated character (M'N) that would tell you a ballad or a story to avoid critical thinking? This could be downright cynical as Tom Carlisle ... alt roue-ism is difficult to find in a hard sole ...
 
GeoFee said:
In the spring of 2010, I stood by my paternal grandfather's grave in Friesland, the land of my birth. There I covenanted with his name and the name of his God. In effect, from that point I have known myself as a dying person. I understand this as stepping out of preoccupation with material concern to enter a process of transformation by the embrace of spiritual concern. Daily I abandon my trust in the powers by which I had been shaped and governed. Daily I seek alternative where it may be found.

George
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“Seeking wholeness is a contradiction in terms; wholeness is an implicit possession of our being. As guardians of our wellbeing, we must rise above human constructs of being that are incompatible with our intended design. Acceptance of this redeemed thinking—as a regulating factor in life—is liberating, and what remains is the highest form of integrity.” ― LaShaun Middlebrooks Collier
 
Luce NDs said:
"Solutions in silence and still Ness ..."
Let me stop an thin Ka moment ... calm my emotions ... and I conceive of a man in a bar soude a 'ere :

  • I was sitting in My-amis drinking blended whiskey down, when this ole grey-black gentleman
  • Was cleaning up the lounge, there wasn't anyone there but this old man and me
  • The man who tended the bar was watching ironsides on TV
  • Uninvited he sat down and opened up heis mind ...
Wait a moment ... opened up his mind? Is this possible if the mind/soul/psyche has been eliminated in an emotional domain?

God ... like murphy in the roués that if it's possible will it happen? Such is a dark flouring and the Shadow be Piscine! Later your gu'Oz 'll be cooked ... at least like Daniel ... slightly roasted by your own emotions if uncooled by superfluous thoughts!

Can you teach an ole dawg tricks domesticate the aged mind? It is the most primitive thingy! Like devoid ID is ...
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Someday I'll understand more of these things. At the moment I just have to think them through. Not everything you want to know is explained properly on Wikipedia.”
 
Hermann said:
The solution to problems comes in silence and stillness, and is carried out in dynamic, creative action.
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Well said. You can’t change the past, and you can ruin a perfectly good present, by worrying about the future. I think many people spend far too much time just thinking of things to deal with rather than just letting them go. When we quiet our mind that's true freedom. But, thought without creative action is just one more pit to fall into.
‘A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.’
— William James
 
GeoFee said:
Some Thoughts on Thinking

It is not possible to make thinking known as itself. Thinking is that immediate activity of being which escapes description. Making it known involves me in a reduction. The process of thinking, thought, is presented as thoughts, the product of thinking. Product and process are as different as any polar pair.

Thinking flows as a continuous event in my awareness. It is directed now in this direction and now in that. It is not fixed. Nor can it be fixed. This is not to suggest that it is broken without hope of repair. My thinking is perfectly intact. Being intact means it is not liable to reduction of any sort. This is a given which is often forgotten.

We all think as the fact of our being human. That thinking is as automatic as our breathing. Our awareness of thinking gives rise to thoughts. There should be no confusion between the activity thinking and its production of thoughts. Thoughts are the reminder of thinking. They make known where thinking has been. But they cannot contain or reveal the thinking itself. No matter how minimal the gap between thinking and thought, they are forever and immutably distinct. Can this be proven?

The concern for proof is a refusal of being as itself. We wish to make a matter certain by establishing its proof. Thus we protect ourselves from the freedom which is resident in the activity, thinking. Being aware of thinking is too much sacrificed to being aware of thoughts. Thought is easily made to serve commodiously. It may be parleyed into the essential factors of power. It is the basic commodity of profit. Where the proof of one thought is extended to the claims of certainty it overrides a similar claim of another thought. These distinctions have no bearing on thinking.

We may say that all persons engage in thinking. We may not prove this. It is open to the acceptance of all. Each one need only consider personal experience to validate the claim. But the claim may not be imposed to bind another to its content.

Thinking is valid in its constitution of the basic singularity of being. Where there is thinking there is identity. This identity is the mark of evolution. Evolution conceived not as a progression of events but as the unfolding of potential.

The distinction is essential. Progress is motion in a direction open to an infinite possibility. The progress may be towards any undetermined but possible end. An unfolding potential is the realization of that which is already present in the fact of being. These are distinguished in the contrast of moving to or away from a centre.

Movement towards a centre may be accomplished from any point on a circumference. Movement from the centre is possible in any direction of the circumference. Movement to the centre tends to unification. Movement to the circumference, which extends infinitely outwards from the centre where the radius is defined as movement, tends to differentiation. Starting from a common centre, two points move proportionately further apart as they move from the centre. This identifies the modern dilemma.

Thus, I have the task of discovering that which is intrinsic to my being in the world. I am not oriented to becoming that which is not now available. I am not oriented to the future. The present is the place at which all that is possible already exists. At whatever point of the circumference and whatever the radius, I am irrevocably defined by my relation to the centre. That centre is my thinking, manifest here only as its memory. This is important for several reasons.

First it means that there is a completeness in me which may not be withheld by some external authority. There is no configuration of thought which may make any final claim on my thinking. It is this freedom which is negotiated away in the transaction of modern economy. Thoughts are valued in some hierarchical fashion. Bargaining is the process of accumulating a thought repertoire adequate to meet the challenge of another's similar though dissimilar thought repertoire.

Second, all of my relations are necessarily conditioned by a common relation to the centre. My consideration of any matter can not be finally determined by the particular point of view, location on the circumference at any given radius, without a final qualification by the centre. Each relation, then, is conditioned by the essential consideration of movement to or from the centre. A point moving to the centre is a thought consistent with my own thinking. A thought moving from the centre is a thought inconsistent with my thinking. All thinking is to or away from the centre. That is, all thinking is towards itself or away from itself.

Thinking towards itself is thinking consistent with itself. Thinking away from itself is thinking conditioned by some thought. Generally a thought projected into the future. Thus the thinking abandons itself as itself to seek itself in that which it may not possibly be.

This thinking is located in these present manifestations of thought. But the thinking itself is not resident. It passes through the form of thought to continue as itself on its way. That it continues does not imply an object to be realized at some future point in time. It is in itself the attainment of that which it seeks. Thinking is focussed on thinking.

Any thoughts on thinking...?

George
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Dear friend, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.

Jude 3
 
When one is struck by BS ... how does nature respond to such fecundity ... as well defined by the terminal end of colons ... a holy population? Only natural responses are acceptable to the comment due to limitations of responsibility to all things ... no matter how extended in a stretch of God's infinite domain.

Now if God is everything ... what is eliminated by God's chosen people ... if the choice materials are wrong about the understanding of what everything would chose out of the wee things that support the outstanding or stuck up group. Then in the inverse nature of the Beatitudes and the admiration of humble populations ... would god lean to the lesser peoples for foundation stones and things outstanding people stumble over as a stinking t'ird of the population. Such is a hard case for those fixed by Christ to accept as still growing souls. But then if their souls were preserved and shelved as pickled brains ... how would they know anything? Thus they would be saved from fertile learning curves!

Bit of BS in an empty space (primal ID) would be fertile to allow growing of a decent mental plant that would do well absorbing light. In an opposing compulsively oppressive group of God's creation would they burst out with a blast ... or what was known as Cana in ancient Hebrew. Some isolated Christians from the rest of creation ... reject satirical critical thinking as chit.

Actually some really hard-core folks reject knowledge altogether as laid out early in Genesis ... they don't see the allegorical metaphor! Thus life is really a chit to those that despise growth and alt roué -ism a moving experience like the eternal traveller ... thus IT goes. Those that eliminate themselves are thus isolated in a different domain ... and thus the level of higher chits and bigger bull than a mortal can imagine ... and this too avoids Google, wikid pedia, etc!
 
Thus god extracted the light of intelligence from many blindsided by BS ... where as in deep satyr there is much to be learned in gravid matter ... substance of thought ... albeit dark to those that despise anything alien. If they misunderstand it they believe it to be just chit. Is what's misunderstood a great enigma for those that believe they know god (ie spirit of everything). Sometimes a go-host of abstract poetics is helpful ... but that would probably be illegal to those going by the book without any power of dissemination or non-destructive dissociation of strange literary devices ... abstract minds as hypo-thetical? They are probably beyond the realm of the stuck --- Buddha on mortal beliefs that are high above supple, subtle conception that can be adequately formed to be helpful in a broader sense. Small minds do not extend in this far in mental distancing ...
 
Suppose words that are unknown are just BS to those that don't understand them; would these be fertile material for growing souls ... and some that believe words are BS possibly find fertilized minds with such are just disbelievable ... and thus metaphysics and physics are in balance as material crap converts to the intangible ... a worthwhile mind as poorly understood by authority on all that is physically real ... and this minds are really not real creations ... but they may be as abstract as the imagination ... the Shadowy con-science? And any numbi knows black is abstract and hue that is essentially a lack of colour ... and thus real people are dull inside ... and don't really shine! That means darkly understood populations may have hidden aspects of value.

Alas the others don't know this ...
 
If you know something that is generally not known by authorities don't speak sensibly about it ... the foundation stone of satyr .. when thoughts arise from dead languages laid out on paper ... then thoughts are evil according to the bible rites!

Leaves me in phitz of giggles ... that may be perceived as squeaks or whines in the dark ... as profound pedantics.
 
Hi Pontifex...
I like what you said:
...I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share...
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To the Ephesians:

There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Creator of all who is over all and through all and in all.…

Paul
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I have come a far way by the inspiration and instruction of the holy spirit. This is not to say that I have obtained. Rather I am bound to press on towards the goal of the high calling given in the gospel of Jesus Christ for any with ears to hear and eyes to see.

We may play with words, in semi-places such as this, but such play discloses much in the discerning heart and mind.

George
 
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