Novel Coronavirus

[Luce NDs]

The question in the east is being raised about rumour and speculation affecting our reactions ...

Do these types of non knowing really screw up the intelligence? Best if we didn't know ... right?

So many questions ... the forthcoming non-answers could cause panic in the fringe ... poor pagans? How were pagans created?

I'm told don't ask ...

 

[Ritafee]

My personal view is - avoid all non essential debt.

We were talking about a specific situation.

Every specific situation is part of the big picture that we are discussing.

In this specific situation you are saying you governed yourself (and your family accordingly) through the practice of avoiding non-essential debt.

And in spite of that the government is now ...

No help at all to most of my @KayTheCurler family. Two of my adult kids have debts and no income. The grands have a partial or complete lack of earnings.

How did that happen?

 

[Waterfall]

We should stop them coming here for cheap drugs without being quarantined

I hope this doesnt bring out the worst in us....we can send them drugs if we have enough. Our compassion has to stay in tact through out this.

 

[Ritafee]

My hunch is that as corona spreads, people are getting suspicious of who might have coughed on the take out food and maybe tend to cook their own?

I suspect you might be one of those suspicious people yourself.

 

[Ritafee]

we can send them drugs if we have enough.

I don't have any to send and I don't imagine I would be allowed without proper license to send them anywhere anyway.

 

[Waterfall]

I don't have any to send and I don't imagine I would be allowed without proper license to send them anywhere anyway.

I meant sharing from the supply available in Canada.

 

[Ritafee]

Speaking of ,,,

I meant sharing from the supply available in Canada.

My daughter's boss ... within 4 days ... produced a viable hand sanitizer ... in house production ... but was not allowed to market it or mail it ... because insurance company would null and void insurance for 'all of their products' if she did so. Apparently it cannot be mailed because it is 'flammable' - guess nothing else in the world that is mailed is flammable? - and it cannot be sold because it did not get the 'government stamp of approval'.

My daughter is using it and says it is the best 'hand sanitizer ever' ... I imagine there is at least one high level government employee that is attached to one of the staff of this 'organic soaps' bizzyness that is also using it illegally. But as much as there is a need for this innovative type of product to be available to the 'masses' ... No 'suds' for you! ... and production lay off's for the small business that would have been able to share their supply in a 'necessary' capacity.

 

[KayTheCurler]

Every specific situation is part of the big picture that we are discussing.

In this specific situation you are saying you governed yourself (and your family accordingly) through the practice of avoiding non-essential debt.

And in spite of that the government is now ...



How did that happen?

Easily. Everyone doesn't have the same thoughts about debt as I do. Many of them spend tax dollars.

 

[Waterfall]

Speaking of ,,,

My daughter's boss ... within 4 days ... produced a viable hand sanitizer ... in house production ... but was not allowed to market it or mail it ... because insurance company would null and void insurance for 'all of their products' if she did so. Apparently it cannot be mailed because it is 'flammable' - guess nothing else in the world that is mailed is flammable? - and it cannot be sold because it did not get the 'government stamp of approval'.

My daughter is using it and says it is the best 'hand sanitizer ever' ... I imagine there is at least one high level government employee that is attached to one of the staff of this 'organic soaps' bizzyness that is also using it illegally. But as much as there is a need for this innovative type of product to be available to the 'masses' ... No 'suds' for you! ... and production lay off's for the small business that would have been able to share their supply in a 'necessary' capacity.

Okay well I guess we can all look for excuses somewhere.....to roadblock everything...or we can forge forward and do what we can.

 

[Ritafee]

Okay well I guess we can all look for excuses somewhere.....to roadblock everything...or we can forge forward and do what we can.

Excuses to road block everything? That is what you got from my post ... hand sanitizer production at this facility with hospital laboratory grade sanitation that would have ensured 'working wages' for a few more people within a business that is already considered essential service ... (hygienic) ... was forging ahead and doing what they could. At least what they thought they could and should. It will be approved - eventually - just not in time to help right now. When/if it is ... and in the event that our government 'privileges' are restored ... perhaps I will participate in the 'secret santa' and send someone a sample or two.

 

[Luce NDs]

There is always someone to deny something ... if only to arrange position on the totem!

 

[Ritafee]

Gotta rob the peters to pay the palls bear marketeeries.

 

[Waterfall]

Excuses to road block everything? That is what you got from my post ... hand sanitizer production at this facility with hospital laboratory grade sanitation that would have ensured 'working wages' for a few more people within a business that is already considered essential service ... (hygienic) ... was forging ahead and doing what they could. At least what they thought they could and should. It will be approved - eventually - just not in time to help right now. When/if it is ... and in the event that our government 'privileges' are restored ... perhaps I will participate in the 'secret santa' and send someone a sample or two.

I don't know if it's flammable then I guess you'd have to show you have a safe way to market and distribute it and look into the standards you'd have to meet....

 

[Ritafee]

I don't know if it's flammable then I guess you'd have to show you have a safe way to market and distribute it and look into the standards you'd have to meet....

Buyer beware ...

Purell Hand Sanitizer Burn Warning

Employees' hands caught on fire when he lit a cigarette after using a hand sanitizer product.

www.snopes.com

 

[Waterfall]

Buyer beware ...

Purell Hand Sanitizer Burn Warning

Employees' hands caught on fire when he lit a cigarette after using a hand sanitizer product.

www.snopes.com

The claim is considered false.....so are you saying there is no threat of fire.....so I guess you argue with the gov't regulators, not me.

 

[Ritafee]

Coronavirus Could Infect Privacy And Civil Liberties Forever

Not only are governments adopting new economic and public health measures to fight the coronavirus and its impact, but they're harnessing big data in ways that, while potentially saving lives, will also reduce our privacy and civil liberties.

www.forbes.com

"So if the coronavirus weren't already scary enough, its potential ramifications for privacy and civil liberties make it even scarier."

ID2020 - no buying or selling without it - I think you have already mentioned that you would take that vaccine today if it would stop this 'lock-down'. You can have my place in line.

 

[Waterfall]

Here's a video on how to disinfect your groceries after you bring them home and your take out food.
Covid 19 can live 24hrs (maybe shorter or longer depending on the environment) on cardboard and days on plastic wrap.

I was pleased to see dedicated staff at Cosco yesterday, cleaning the entire shopping cart fully....so no one has to touch the wipes container like before

 

[Ritafee]

The claim is considered false.....so are you saying there is no threat of fire.....so I guess you argue with the gov't regulators, not me.

Yes that 'claim' was false but as the article continued:

We conducted a few simple experiments and found that even a small amount of Purell Instant Hand Sanitizer spread on a (non-organic) surface could easily be ignited by the briefest touch of an open flame, although the resulting fire burned relatively cool and was easily extinguished.

So my point was ... alcohol base sanitizers are all flammable to some degree. But yet ...

 

[Ritafee]

Here's a video on how to disinfect your groceries after you bring them home and your take out food.
Covid 19 can live 24hrs (maybe shorter or longer depending on the environment) on cardboard and days on plastic wrap.

I was pleased to see dedicated staff at Cosco yesterday, cleaning the entire shopping cart fully....so no one has to touch the wipes container like before

Let the hunger games begin!

 

[Ritafee]

Easily. Everyone doesn't have the same thoughts about debt as I do. Many of them spend tax dollars.

Debt is an amount of 'money' borrowed by one party from another. Used by many corporations (government) and individuals as a method of making large purchases that they could not afford under normal circumstances. All tax dollars are debt. And the interest on the government debt is all that your tax dollars are going towards - the debt is now past the point of recovery.

That is why I said ... a Debt Jubilee is the only answer. The government can keep adding trillions of digital zeroes to their accounts on 'our behalf' ... and tack on the interest at a later date ... no more real money is ever going to be out there ... just more never possible to payback debt. If you are a praying person ... forgive us our trespasses (debt) as we forgive those who trespass (put us into debt) against us ... Amen?