My Weekly Devotional

[BetteTheRed]

Nah, I didn't get the connection, either. Not just you.

All 10 of the attendants had oil for their lamps. They were all prepared for the situation they thought they were going into. Only half of them had prepared for the eventuality that the wedding party would be HOURS late, which is a pretty unlikely eventuality in my experience. I was at a wedding Friday afternoon; it started within 5 minutes of the advertised time.

If a wedding starts hours later than the appointed time, I'd be a bit more inclined to blame the wedding party than the attendants.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Also, to those of you who think that there is only one meaning for a text, what do you do with your Jewish roots? Jewish wisdom DEMANDS that the faithful wrestle with their sacred texts.

 

[dreamerman]

Why would you think this Mendalla ? I love to ride Horse's when I was a bit younger. But I new Horses" in the barn that would kick your, brain's out" . If you were to try an ride them" , and they didn't know you." There all just Horses though, Hay".

I will take a stab at this. All Christians are Christians, Some Christians don't mind if you ride them while others don't like being ridden. Some will go so far as kicking your brains out if you try to ride them. So I guess the moral of the story is stay away from the Christians who hate to be ridden unless you're into that kind of thing but just remember to wear a helmet.

 

[Mendalla]

Some Christians don't mind if you ride them while others don't like being ridden.

This could be taken the wrong way.

 

[unsafe]

Mendalla ----your quote -----And how, for the sake of argument, am I supposed to know which Christians are getting the true meaning through the Holy Spirit?

You won't know Mendalla ---- The Holy Spirit will reveal truth to the person who asks for the truth to be revealed to them -----and it is for them --not for you ----and you by your own admission of not being a Christian will not trust or believe in one who says the truth was revealed to them by and through the Holy Spirit ----you would not trust that cause there is no proof to you that it is the truth but for that person the right truth of what the scripture is saying to them has been reveled ------

Jesus says it best here -----

Matthew 13:10-17 (ERV)
Why Jesus Used Stories to Teach

10 The followers came to Jesus and asked, “Why do you use these stories to teach the people?”

11 Jesus answered, “Only you can know the secret truths about God’s kingdom. Those other people cannot know these secret truths. 12 The people who have some understanding will be given more. And they will have even more than they need. But those who do not have much understanding will lose even the little understanding that they have.13 This is why I use these stories to teach the people: They see, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really hear or understand.14 So they show that what Isaiah said about them is true:

‘You people will listen and listen,
but you will not understand.
You will look and look,
but you will not really see.
15 Yes, the minds of these people are now closed.
They have ears, but they don’t listen.
They have eyes, but they refuse to see.
If their minds were not closed,
they might see with their eyes;
they might hear with their ears;
they might understand with their minds.
Then they might turn back to me and be healed.’

16 But God has blessed you. You understand what you see with your eyes. And you understand what you hear with your ears. 17 I can assure you, many prophets and godly people wanted to see what you now see. But they did not see it. And many prophets and godly people wanted to hear what you now hear. But they did not hear it.

The Bible Mendalla is God's Spiritual Book for His Spiritual people -----unbelievers will not get the right revelation from His Book ----and the scriptures make that very clear ----

 

[Luce NDs]

Also, to those of you who think that there is only one meaning for a text, what do you do with your Jewish roots? Jewish wisdom DEMANDS that the faithful wrestle with their sacred texts.

And Jacob wrestled with the attribute in the darkness ... many can't see the metaphorical proverb as a trumpet to get you going ... that's Gabriel ... not as it appears ... tis abstract!

 

[Luce NDs]

This could be taken the wrong way.

Thus sun sets to be wrode into?

Can you imagine seeing, hearing, feeling strange things and stowing IT away as saved? That make you an aboriginal scientist, or prescient ... a' fore thing or even indeterminate theist as a' theist if you put the letters together as rite ... a creative energy that's dark to the fixed ... Enoch ... confined to the temple?

 

[Waterfall]

Mendalla ----your quote -----And how, for the sake of argument, am I supposed to know which Christians are getting the true meaning through the Holy Spirit?

You won't know Mendalla ---- The Holy Spirit will reveal truth to the person who asks for the truth to be revealed to them -----and it is for them --not for you ----and you by your own admission of not being a Christian will not trust or believe in one who says the truth was revealed to them by and through the Holy Spirit ----you would not trust that cause there is no proof to you that it is the truth but for that person the right truth of what the scripture is saying to them has been reveled ------

Jesus says it best here -----

Matthew 13:10-17 (ERV)
Why Jesus Used Stories to Teach

10 The followers came to Jesus and asked, “Why do you use these stories to teach the people?”

11 Jesus answered, “Only you can know the secret truths about God’s kingdom. Those other people cannot know these secret truths. 12 The people who have some understanding will be given more. And they will have even more than they need. But those who do not have much understanding will lose even the little understanding that they have.13 This is why I use these stories to teach the people: They see, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really hear or understand.14 So they show that what Isaiah said about them is true:

‘You people will listen and listen,
but you will not understand.
You will look and look,
but you will not really see.
15 Yes, the minds of these people are now closed.
They have ears, but they don’t listen.
They have eyes, but they refuse to see.
If their minds were not closed,
they might see with their eyes;
they might hear with their ears;
they might understand with their minds.
Then they might turn back to me and be healed.’

16 But God has blessed you. You understand what you see with your eyes. And you understand what you hear with your ears. 17 I can assure you, many prophets and godly people wanted to see what you now see. But they did not see it. And many prophets and godly people wanted to hear what you now hear. But they did not hear it.

The Bible Mendalla is God's Spiritual Book for His Spiritual people -----unbelievers will not get the right revelation from His Book ----and the scriptures make that very clear ----

Anyone can stand up and say that they believe in Jesus Christ, and some will be able to say it without having the Holy Spirit dwelling within them. We are to test the spirits because not all are from God.
A kind an loving disposition towards others, that follows Jesus' teachings would reveal more of an indwelling of the HS to me, rather than mere words spoken and false testimonials.

 

[Waterfall]

To continue my above thoughts, I think this is were we "Christians" have a problem in the world. We do not stand out as exceptionally holy to the the rest of the world.
In fact, I often have to think of the Amish to see some of the best Christlike behaviours.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Absolutely, waterfall. If "believing in orthodox Christianity" (i.e. love your neighbours, serve the poor, work for social justice, act in humble compassionate ways) really changed people, then the U.S.A. should be the most moral country in the world by virtue of its still majority Christian population. Since that is so obviously not the case, obviously "human-ness" trumps "Christian-ness" most of the time.

 

[Luce NDs]

Anyone can stand up and say that they believe in Jesus Christ, and some will be able to say it without having the Holy Spirit dwelling within them. We are to test the spirits because not all are from God.
A kind an loving disposition towards others, that follows Jesus' teachings would reveal more of an indwelling of the HS to me, rather than mere words spoken and false testimonials.

Like unleavened bred? A cross between flat and Pan cakes ... in differing communication ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Absolutely, waterfall. If "believing in orthodox Christianity" (i.e. love your neighbours, serve the poor, work for social justice, act in humble compassionate ways) really changed people, then the U.S.A. should be the most moral country in the world by virtue of its still majority Christian population. Since that is so obviously not the case, obviously "human-ness" trumps "Christian-ness" most of the time.

Tis another strange, odd, of peculiar space at this stage of the great game ... occidental power of just Ox'n ... behaving like mules ... work, work, work ... don't contemplate ...

 

[Waterfall]

Absolutely, waterfall. If "believing in orthodox Christianity" (i.e. love your neighbours, serve the poor, work for social justice, act in humble compassionate ways) really changed people, then the U.S.A. should be the most moral country in the world by virtue of its still majority Christian population. Since that is so obviously not the case, obviously "human-ness" trumps "Christian-ness" most of the time.

Well let's not just "point" at the USA, right?

 

[Luce NDs]

Well let's not just "point" at the USA, right?

A scattered theology of lost wisdom? Hints at what we don't know ...

 

[BetteTheRed]

Well let's not just "point" at the USA, right?

I use it as an example, simply because it has the largest percentage of self-identified Christians in the world. Canada, Scandinavia, most of Europe, are heading rapidly towards the "none" category of religion, and the U.S. is quite different from most of the rest of the western world in that respect.

 

[Waterfall]

I use it as an example, simply because it has the largest percentage of self-identified Christians in the world. Canada, Scandinavia, most of Europe, are heading rapidly towards the "none" category of religion, and the U.S. is quite different from most of the rest of the western world in that respect.

Now I also thought Africa and South America were also countries that "Christianity" is quite active. (note italics)

 

[airclean33]

Nah, I didn't get the connection, either. Not just you.

All 10 of the attendants had oil for their lamps. They were all prepared for the situation they thought they were going into. Only half of them had prepared for the eventuality that the wedding party would be HOURS late, which is a pretty unlikely eventuality in my experience. I was at a wedding Friday afternoon; it started within 5 minutes of the advertised time.

If a wedding starts hours later than the appointed time, I'd be a bit more inclined to blame the wedding party than the attendants.

--Hi BetteTheRed--You know BetteThe Red . I believe after reading many of your posts, you should try another Bible. I think the one you now have is all mixed up. First only five had oil . Like they had been told . Encase The Lord", came at night". It is something I believe" may help your understanding GODS Word". Or you can read Rev 19; It is the wedding feast of The Lord. airclean33-Gord.

 

[Waterfall]

It's kind of funny we're all focusing on the oil and the lamps and not about being a virgin.

 

[airclean33]

BetteTheRed--Your wedding" you went to started with in 5 Min of time advertised" WOW.
You see Bette there is no time put forward for this one . Only GOD' knows the time. That's why we must be ready . You see half The earth" is always in the Dark". This one is over " Two Thousand years an still waiting".
Are's is not to reason why ". Are's is but to do " an die". All Glory Is GODS" airclean33-Gord.

 

[BetteTheRed]

--Hi BetteTheRed--You know BetteThe Red . I believe after reading many of your posts, you should try another Bible. I think the one you now have is all mixed up. First only five had oil . Like they had been told . Encase The Lord", came at night". It is something I believe" may help your understanding GODS Word". Or you can read Rev 19; It is the wedding feast of The Lord. airclean33-Gord.

Only five had ADDITIONAL oil. The other five had brought enough oil to keep a light lit long enough for a wedding feast. As I said, I'd be more inclined to blame the groom than the bridesmaids (which is the NSRV translation). Where's the bride in all this? If she's responsible for their dresses, shoes, meals, etc., you'd think she could get her s**t together around extra oil. If this is like an uber "be prepared" message, okay then, the boy scouts are all just fine with god. Wait - what happened to all of the "all faith, no works required" stuff?