Manufacturing Consent 2.0

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In 1988, Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky published Manufacturing Consent, developing what they called the "propaganda model." Their argument wasn't simply that somebody sat in a room deciding what everyone should believe. It was much more sophisticated. Institutions, economic incentives, information sources, media structures, framing and repetition could collectively determine which ideas received legitimacy and which remained outside the acceptable boundaries of public discussion.

Welcome to Manufacturing Consent 2.0.

The modern information system doesn't merely tell us what to think.

Increasingly, it tells us what they want us to think everybody else thinks.

If I can be convinced that 70 percent of my neighbors believe something,

I don't necessarily have to be convinced that the underlying proposition is correct.

But I have been introduced to another psychological consideration.
  • Maybe I am the one who is wrong.
  • Maybe everyone else knows something I don't.
  • Maybe my position has become socially unacceptable.
  • Maybe supporting that position will make me look foolish.
  • Maybe resistance is pointless because everybody else has already moved on.

Nobody changed my mind through evidence.

They changed the environment surrounding my opinion.

Herman and Chomsky were analyzing newspapers and television networks.

They weren't dealing with X, Facebook, TikTok, algorithmic feeds, Ai, coordinated networks + automated engagement.

Operating continuously across the planet.

This may be the most important evolution in Manufacturing Consent 2.0.

Division can be more valuable than persuasion.

You don't necessarily need to persuade people to support the establishment.

Sometimes it may be enough to ensure that everyone capable of challenging it remains busy fighting everybody else.

If every opposition movement spends its energy attacking neighboring opposition movements, personalities, factions and organizations,

the governing structure doesn't necessarily need overwhelming public enthusiasm.

I have become increasingly suspicious whenever social media suddenly tells me whom I am supposed to hate today.
  • Someone is a traitor.
  • Someone is a grifter.
  • Someone isn't a "real fill in the blank."
  • Some organization is finished.
  • Someone must immediately resign.
  • Some disagreement becomes an existential crisis.
Within hours a new fight begins.

Who benefits from the fight about this?

If I tell you something reasonable that you already understand, you might nod and continue scrolling.

If I tell you that someone you believe you should despise just said something "outrageous", you stop.
  • You read.
  • You respond.
  • You repost.
  • Someone attacks your response.
  • You answer them.
Everyone involved is feeding the beast machine.

I get real mad at myself for falling into that trap.

This is a thread about Maybe?
 
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Maybe this is just a coincidence?

Netflix dropped “The AI Apocaloptimist Doc” Sept 15 to 260+ million subscribers.

This film took 3 years to make and launches after:

Sept 3 — Sanders-Casar bill announced
Sept 8 — Coxon Anthropic launch + UK Sobel bill
Sept 10 — Obama endorses framework at private DCCC dinner
Sept 12 — Amodei “Pace the Frontier” essay
Sept 13 — Speaker Johnson accepts frame
Sept 14 — Shuster reports WH aides push Trump to address the nation

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Maybe not?
 
Today ... considering what we know of god (or everything) we know comprehensively nothing ... relatively speaking and thus all that is encountered is dropped into a parcel of theory ... a large pool of maybe's.

However there are those that will express that they know everything ... an expression that maybe will lead to their downfall due to certain limiting conditions ... we trust that their hind end will catch up with them soon with the stuff anon (that is what's coming ... simulating a crisis of emotional extent). This is really out there like an OBI or things gotten when in an intimate crush ... done gone.

There are people that deny OBI's and thus it is always out there peering in as ... Ayer, or Eyre in Jainism ... there are English novelties ... spinning's?

Even thinking about such powers is frightening when you consider Lord Acton's remarks on power when taken absolutely ... everything lessor collapses as if curtailed or censored! In the absence of what went or has gone ... we might question ... this is qui in (keen) an old tongue that goes round and round as it going down something that isn't quite there ... something insane. Does it have a metaphor? Like in phonetic form of what was laid out on the media? Toyalet, or toil-ET as in "swim faster" ....

The more screwed down the world the more jew cyst's to flush as Jude was once a word for power and declared something to use caution with ... some are gentle but ... all that maybe left is juices ... and a settlement that requires considerable explanation after we learn the proper questions about kin and relating to everything ...

It seems presently that folk are ultimately into separation, conflict, isolationism and ideal autonomy that could explode the original stuff as a very large atom ... super star! Will we sense the scattering when it occurs or will it be occult?

OHC man I don't know ... it could be a stone orc hid somewhere for all I know ... difficult blossom. Like making bread out of a plant that will not grow ...
 
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:unsure: A new poll finds 63% of Americans see at least a moderate risk that advanced AI will destroy humanity.
That includes 20% who see a significant risk and 17% who say it’s almost certain to happen.

Americans recognize what’s at stake.

Congress must act to address AI’s risks.
 
Congress may not be the problem here. The AI gurus have done a good job of (crude term for sucking up to) Trump so will probably lobby to get him to veto anything too stringent. They'll want voluntary constraints put in place by industry.

And, really, the US will become irrelevant in the AI world before long anyhow. With China breathing down their networks and some of the Chinese models being open source, anyone will be able to spin up an AI server without caring what the US does or says. I imagine that an agreement to put constraints on AI development will be possible among the Western nations (US, Canada, EU) and might even bring in China and non-EU European powers. But countries like Iran and North Korea that ignore most international agreements and protocols already? Good luck.
 
The entire media complex screams bloody murder about the world ending from AI.

3 days later they poll Americans and are shocked about the results!!!!!!

Poll: Americans say there’s a serious risk of AI destroying humanity​

A new POLITICO Poll finds that a plurality of Americans favor pausing the development of more advanced AI models, and 63 percent say the technology poses at least a moderate risk of destroying humanity.
 
Maybe ...

"the heads of big companies pushing for more government regulation of their industry is not some strange deviation from the status quo; it is an embodiment of it. If the AI CEOs truly believed that the technology they were working on would kill all humans in the next three years, they would be acting differently. Like so many of their predecessors, these executives are trying to scare us into supporting policies designed to protect them from competition. We need to stop falling for it."


Why the AI CEOs Really Want to Be Regulated
09/16/2026•Mises WireConnor O'Keeffe
 
Maybe ...

"the heads of big companies pushing for more government regulation of their industry is not some strange deviation from the status quo; it is an embodiment of it. If the AI CEOs truly believed that the technology they were working on would kill all humans in the next three years, they would be acting differently. Like so many of their predecessors, these executives are trying to scare us into supporting policies designed to protect them from competition. We need to stop falling for it."


Why the AI CEOs Really Want to Be Regulated
09/16/2026•Mises WireConnor O'Keeffe

Given the accepted concern that knowledge and intelligence is evil ... what could have got into these people?

Possibly some great fear about the ineffable situation they've gotten themselves into by refusing thought processes!

It is how a great deal goes deficient without anyone having the slightest clue ... advanced emotionalism causing a great fit ... lie a Labrador Retriever encountering 50K smells all at once ... mentally overwhelming ... you just have to know it was a stinking complex thought!

These things are emotionally exiled or exorcised ... by special breeds of priests in darker fabrications ... Black Robes of biblical expression ...
 
Democrats’ newest existential threat has arrived and, amazingly, all of the party’s leading figures seemingly discovered it at the same time!

Over the past few days, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Hakeem Jeffries, and Ro Khanna have begun warning that AI is advancing fast, could be dangerous, and may require international treaties or regulatory oversight or a development moratorium or even a full-on government shut down.
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Maybe these are all fair points that all the aforementioned Democrats coincidentally came up with on their own and just happened to reach the same conclusion as their fellow counterparts — or maybe the talking points went out.
 
I first heard of such possibilities some decades ago and it was specially noted some 3 decades ago by folk working in that field ... that not many understood the ins and outs of ... nor the ups and downs as threatening vicissitudes ... allowing viscous stories to build that the informed and the non informed argued about ... I observed from the fringe so as to avoid the emotional portions ... I was raised in far too emotional environment where a person could easily be killed or learn to kill to avoid being a sacrifice! Best to rest under the canopy in the shekinah where people will not note you for fear of such alien domains ...

Alien domains often contain material that is made up of unknown matter ... Dark Matter! You just cannot see it that easily as it is very shy ... and humble as well as down a deep hole like briar wabbit ... a thorny concept! May resemble a Golden Urchin or Monstrous ... metaphorically both having long needle like penetrators ...

Like myths that can get into difficult places like a lively mind where truth such doesn't agree with the un informed! Demonstrated by mate denying he was at the pub for socialization ... it being politically evil as too many things are communicated in such forms! Silence is like a dark and unidentified position ... unheard of ... an alien status like an abandoned dwelling ... dwelt? Like a crappy thought in some perspectives ... ar*oma ... pheromones?

Consider what a breath of epinephrine can do to a heart of soul ... dashing it's brains out ... just think of someone doing that to avoid the process ... of whatever! Maybe the dark of Eve ... illusive?

Something of a story could erupt ... mesmerizing those completely unaware of what is out there in the night stretch ... geometric dance? Some with a stab or sword of sorts ... an emotion with the potential of carving a heart out ... sometimes glowing peculiarly ... ember some!
 
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Over the past few days, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Hakeem Jeffries, and Ro Khanna have begun warning that AI is advancing fast, could be dangerous, and may require international treaties or regulatory oversight or a development moratorium or even a full-on government shut down.
To be fair, there's quite a few Republicans joining the outcry, too. As I said, the US can do whatever it likes but absent an international consensus, I can't see things actually slowing down very much. And the usual outliers from any international consensus (e.g. Iran, North Korea, Israel) can just keep pumping along using the open source that's already out there and they have already likely downloaded into their own repositories. I suppose the NSA or similar could try to use blackhat hacking tactics to take them down but of those three, two (Iran and Israel) are as capable at cyberwarfare as the US, maybe moreso. Ditto China though I suspect that if there was enough of an international consensus, the Chinese would play ball. Look at how they went from being climate holdouts to climate leaders in maybe a decade, even if they are still not entirely on script in some areas (e.g. still use some coal).
 
Maybe Socialist governments around the world are terrified of AI technology giving their oppressed citizens information about the world that they have spent decades restricting.
 
Maybe Socialist governments around the world are terrified of AI technology giving their oppressed citizens information about the world that they have spent decades restricting.
Not if they can control it so that only the state and state-supported actors can use it. China could certainly do so with its Great Firewall and other network controls. All the AI work in China so far seems to be at least nominally state-supported.
 
Is there anything more illusive than the spirits of emotion and intelligence given the rise of vast desire for stupidity and ignorance in the body of the beast of humanity?

Imagine when the beast is envisioned and it is right under the g' nose as a dark rapturous event resembling a don*Qui or Mule of a different shade ... Gama 's hodo' ...
 
Maybe there really is nothing new under the sun.

Lennox's move to set the modern scenarios beside the ancient ones:

"If you take these scenarios seriously, that are written by eminent intellectuals and physicists like Max Tegmark,

perhaps it's worth revisiting what Daniel the prophet said 26 centuries ago."

The pattern is older than the technology.

On Babel, Lennox:

"Here you have people reaching for the sky... God came down to see the tower. So they didn't reach heaven after all."

The tower builders were the original singularity preachers.

Even the promise of eternal life is a rerun.

The transhumanists preach uploading.

The eschatology is new.

The structure is ancient.

The claims remain unfalsifiable.


Only the vestments changed.
 
Maybe there really is nothing new under the sun.

Lennox's move to set the modern scenarios beside the ancient ones:

"If you take these scenarios seriously, that are written by eminent intellectuals and physicists like Max Tegmark,

perhaps it's worth revisiting what Daniel the prophet said 26 centuries ago."

The pattern is older than the technology.

On Babel, Lennox:

"Here you have people reaching for the sky... God came down to see the tower. So they didn't reach heaven after all."

The tower builders were the original singularity preachers.

Even the promise of eternal life is a rerun.

The transhumanists preach uploading.

The eschatology is new.

The structure is ancient.

The claims remain unfalsifiable.


Only the vestments changed.

Imagine what they'll buy into with the promise of ongoing matter ... when the only long lasting version is dark and mysterious as a standing lie ... these things sell or we wouldn't have the continuous rush on the market ... with a polished Hoe?

The damn thing needs regular cultivation and turnover ... even thought the buys say they are looking for stability ... that they can collapse and bankrupt ...

The greatest worry is a shortage of fine paper of the toileting kind ... delicacy is critical considering the applications! As cysts ... best that anon knows ... we don't ...
 
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