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MAID Concerns - How Will Our Politicians Respond?

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This is how I predict their narrative could unfold or could be being implied already: The person who shot that politician, Scalise, was a screwed up in the head Bernie Sanders supporter. That means (in their propaganda narrative they're painting) that Bernie Sanders supporters are all unpatriotic deranged socialists who hate the police entirely and there are no bad cops, and somehow Joe Biden is now a Bernie socialist. And this guy with a disability who wants single payer healthcare for all is a villian.

Fox is watched on both sides of the border and colours public opinion on both sides of the border, and this is ableist politics. And that has implications for MAID. All ableism has implications for MAID - and MAID is systemically ableist in its very wording - but when it's entering American politics that is particularly troubling. Particularly now. It has implications for similar laws in the US as well, certainly.
 
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I don't call that fighting ... I call it easing into it ... so MAID.
That's ableist bulls**t. Millions of people take medication and other treatments for something that would otherwise cause them pain, discomfort, or death, everyday. They are not receiving MAID they are receiving support to live as best they can. You all know that. You've all used some kind of medicinal remedy for something. None of you has never sought medical attention for anything or never taken anything anaesthetic or pain relieving in any way. I don't think you would consider that MAID! f*** this place full of hypocrites. I don't even need to hear your awful opinions and see your smug reactions to existential issues.
 
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Northwind you ignored my posts - that took effort to express and those are deeply felt concerns ( that affect me but are not all about me )- before you liked Bette's. You won't even listen. Stop being ableist jerks.
 
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My mother in her last months was prescribed fentanyl as powerful enough to address her extreme pain. It seems that few recognize that such opiates have an accruing toxic side that eventually gives one rest.

Then is there anything more painful than fear as it rips apart the emotions and intellect in a people prone to breakage and going BROKE to support tyranny ... blindly at that due to fears that are secreted away as form of paranoia? Sometimes this rises from where it was hung up in the limbic system as subtle effect!

It may resemble Judei 'n Tom Dooley! Just swinging there in a lonesome valley as dramatized in Italian Westerns ... all it takes is a few dollars more ... and someone will take up the work ... it may be advantageous for pathologists ... one learns about insider stories and myths of the visceral type ...
 

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I was just re-reading the "Fear of Death" thread, and noticed Kimmio, your beautiful post. I encourage anyone to check it out....won't post a link 'cause it's easy to find. It seems to eloquently state your reasoned position and belongs in this thread as well. Hope that's ok.
 
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I was just re-reading the "Fear of Death" thread, and noticed Kimmio, your beautiful post. I encourage anyone to check it out....won't post a link 'cause it's easy to find. It seems to eloquently state your reasoned position and belongs in this thread as well. Hope that's ok.
 

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Imagine all the knowledge that is disabled by powerful tyranny of self-inductees? It is a centering operation that from a point leaves the alternate out!

Meets with the criteria of the Bishopric of Myra ... on points and circles coming round ... feedback! Hubris as consequence of hedonism? Feed a bit on that as chit ... small bits!
 

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Thanks for the read. I particularly am aware of the terrible treatment police dish out to people with disabilities. Where I used to live, a mom was stopped by police for speeding (a little bit). She had her daughter who had Down Syndrome with her. She decided to contest the ticket and ordered the log of the communication in the police car while she was waiting. They were joking about her "special" daughter in a very disparaging way. The police. Of course there was no consequence except her ticket was thrown out.
 

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That's ableist bulls**t. Millions of people take medication and other treatments for something that would otherwise cause them pain, discomfort, or death, everyday. They are not receiving MAID they are receiving support to live as best they can. You all know that. You've all used some kind of medicinal remedy for something. None of you has never sought medical attention for anything or never taken anything anaesthetic or pain relieving in any way. I don't think you would consider that MAID! f*** this place full of hypocrites. I don't even need to hear your awful opinions and see your smug reactions to existential issues.
We are all dying all the time ... Medical Assistance In Dying ... Medical Assistance In Living ... call it what you will ... 10 out of 10 of us will Live & Die ... hastening death by medical means was always a choice ... making it legal ... I agree leads to the slippery slope of making the choice under duress of a system that tends to 'value' some lives more than others.
 
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Thanks for the read. I particularly am aware of the terrible treatment police dish out to people with disabilities. Where I used to live, a mom was stopped by police for speeding (a little bit). She had her daughter who had Down Syndrome with her. She decided to contest the ticket and ordered the log of the communication in the police car while she was waiting. They were joking about her "special" daughter in a very disparaging way. The police. Of course there was no consequence except her ticket was thrown out.
In Vancouver, police ("cops on the beat") were filmed knocking down a woman with CP who walks with an unsteady gait. She was about my age and size, and someone at work saw it and thought at first it was me - because unaided, I walked like that. It could've been me. It's kind of scary.
 

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That would be very scary. I suppose the "assumption" that the cops made were that she was drunk. I think that police need to have the same training levels, and on-going professional development, that we require from nurses and teachers. A neighbour's kid has joined the OPP. He has his plumber's license, no post-secondary training. "They" will do all the training, but it won't result in any accreditation.
 

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In Vancouver, police ("cops on the beat") were filmed knocking down a woman with CP who walks with an unsteady gait. She was about my age and size, and someone at work saw it and thought at first it was me - because unaided, I walked like that. It could've been me. It's kind of scary.
"Kind of scary" sounds like a bit of an understatement. Trauma also comes from witnessing violence. I hope you feel safe most of the time. The police are out of control. They are a different breed.
 

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They shouldn't be a "different breed", though, and they aren't, in many places.

For a little levity, what cops in Scotland do:

Cops versus chickens
You're right. A gross overgeneralization.
There are pockets of corruption everywhere. Nasty little cabals, glad handing, shady connections, -- 'roids, use and distribution, stolen proceeds of crime, illegal and unauthorized data base searches etc. etc. These are commonplace, not rare. Morale is miserable and many are driven to take their own lives from being bullied by superiors and fellow officers for being soft.
Well concealed is more accurate.
Fortunately, there are still lots of good apples and better work cultures internationally.
 
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"Kind of scary" sounds like a bit of an understatement. Trauma also comes from witnessing violence. I hope you feel safe most of the time. The police are out of control. They are a different breed.
I only saw it on the news.

After that, a couple of years later maybe, I was in the police station to pick up my crim check, and I had scratched or paper cut my finger and it started to bleed (not badly but I needed a bandaid.) The closest person I saw to ask was a cop coming through the door. He said, "If it's life and death, I can't promise you anything. But a bandaid I think I can do." Maybe he was being funny, someone else might have thought so. But it didn't strike me that way.
 
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I am surprised Bette that your friends son got accepted into the OPP. My niece‘s husband is OPP. Detective now. but he has an undergrad degree in criminal law and a masters in criminal behaviour. Speaks three languages. Plus of course all the OPP testing of personality.....

and it was still a waiting game to get in

he does courses all the time. Often related to drugs and enforcement. He is one of those officers who was called into administer drug protocol assessments

they get a lot of training. But they don’t get a lot of mental health training.

and the problem with all the training police get is it is never enough. They have so many different roles they are asked to play. Particularly with mental illness. I know Toronto Has a couple of teams of police and social workers or psychiatric nurses. But they can’t take a civilian into a dangerous situation. So the most recent high profile case, where a woman in distress fell from her balcony while trying to evade the police was one of those. the 911 calls were about someone with aknife

Martin says the calls for domestic disturbances with weapons are the most dangerous. Although he also says traffic stops at night are very dangerous as you can’t see as you walk up if the guy is pointing a shot gun at you or anything

the issue related to police I think is sometimes bad apples. Partly burnt out officers who lose it. Partly the number of people on the street in mental health crisis who can’t get help in hospital. Partly the training. Partly society.

martin says that there are so many fatal accidents that officers get to first, children families, drunk drivers , ...... that sometimes half the squad is off with mental health , PST anguish that other officers have to be brought in to help cover shifts. And then those officers under distress are encouraged to get back to work. There is a very high rate of suicide amoungst cops related to untreated PSTD.
Now that is country work. Mainly highways, bad conditions. Lots of accidents. City policing I expect is very different.
 

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I almost lost my mind there for a bit ...

Perhaps an impact with the momentum of the eternal infinite ... a non-entity that is mostly dark space!

Is losing something that is already out there on a journey illicit? Such incarnates as intellect on a temporal scale ... a funny etymology (item-oleo-Je)?

Enough to cause some to jump off a bridge in GEO Ghia ...
 

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The neighbour, whose son has entered the OPP, is OPP himself. Yes, there's nepotism there, as well.
 
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