Jesus Said -----Forgive Them Father For They Know Not What They Do

[BetteTheRed]

The problem, as I see it, is that the religion for whom the "Old Testament" was scripture still exists in the form of Judaism.

Now, Christians can believe until they're blue in the face that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah spoken of in the Hebrew Scriptures. But, I gotta say, it's something of a suspect claim when the original owners/writers of those scriptures say that Jesus was NOT the Messiah predicted by the prophets.

 

[paradox3]

It's fascinating to consider how the Jewishness of Jesus informed his mission and message. I see him as both Jewish mystic and reformer.

 

[Luce NDs]

Reformer reeks of change ... not a good thing for some stoics! Rigidity works for dogs fitting into the gears ...

 

[jimkenney12]

Who would have been close enough to hear what he said?

Jesus showed disdain for the religious and political leadership making him doubly dangerous to the stability Rome always sought.

For his mission as we understand it today, it was important to model what he taught.

The Romans knew what they were doing, killing a disrupter, but they did not know what the consequences would be.

Since we cannot prove what is in the Christian scriptures as right or wrong, we can speculate all we want, but each of us makes our own decision about the role(s) of those words in our own lives.

 

[Luce NDs]

Who would have been close enough to hear what he said?

Jesus showed disdain for the religious and political leadership making him doubly dangerous to the stability Rome always sought.

For his mission as we understand it today, it was important to model what he taught.

The Romans knew what they were doing, killing a disrupter, but they did not know what the consequences would be.

Since we cannot prove what is in the Christian scriptures as right or wrong, we can speculate all we want, but each of us makes our own decision about the role(s) of those words in our own lives.

It seems to be a broad aspect although may would like to narrow things down to a NARC position that I'm all there is.

If ARC is an old word for carrier of the story ... imagine the opposing view as supporting the "N" or what appears as a hole in the system of initiates ... then it simply becomes a sense of philosophy ... and that certainly will be disposed of a desire of knowledge and wisdom ... which the ordinary folk should have no interest as if they understood the tyrants would be troubled, worried, concerned, etc. Anis the way it is because of demonstrated avarice ...

Many authorities hate any kind of demonstration because of the image it might leave as remainder or left portion after the wile blows off! Desire, will, and other emotions may be fickle, fey and ephemeral ... once meaning flighty and thus the angelic character to blown nature as it busts ... something for the unconscious psyche to get a feel of ... not drag on but to be supported ... if you can grasp it in lift ...

Ever wonder about all those medieval paintings of fat ladies in the rye? There's no doubt a story there too ... naturalism?

 

[Luce NDs]

Instead expect much cover-up as virtue is not to be exposed for its goods!

Results in much concern, worries, troubles and items to ponder as they pile up ... if love incarnated there would be a requirement for a portal to escape from human messes ... common screw-up and hyperbolic twists ... leaders hate to hear of fallacies elaborated on due to personal input that leaders would dispose of ...

From an early age I was impressed with my uselessness and the ab use of the powers above me ... yet I always felt they had missed an opportunity to gain from my experiences of observation of higher matters ...

Thus we need a spot and time to recede and recess ... perhaps in farce ide relief of meta vision! Some parallel lines may be considered ... thence we may find numerous universes ...