Jesus Christ Superstar

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GordW said:
ANd yet you have no way of knowing if mocking is in fact the nature of the show.... (other than the mocking that is part and parcel of the Passion story as related in the Gospels of course) WAtch it/don't watch it, whatever floats your boat. But maybe refrain from making evaluatory comments on what is in something you have not watched. Because it makes you look a little foolish.
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Watching it is not the only way to find out about it though Gord.

To use an analogy, when I see a "poison" label on a household product, I don't have to actually drink it to know it's unwise to.
 
revsdd said:
I remind all of you that I have a pretty high christology - and still (having actually seen Superstar) I would agree with others here that Superstar doesn't mock Jesus as much as it presents a story that's very heavy on the humanity of Jesus as opposed to the divinity of Jesus. I have no problem with that. Jesus' two natures must be seen in balance, and too often the church has tilted the balance too far in the direction of Jesus' divinity. So there's nothing wrong with a story that levels things a bit by tilting the balance perhaps too far in the other direction. Personally, I wouldn't want to stay where Superstar takes me, but I don't see it as "mocking" Jesus, unless we believe that Jesus' humanity was a mere charade - along the lines of some types of gnostic belief.
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Jesus Christ Superstar does not present Jesus' dual natures in balance Steven. Rather, it strips him of his divinity. That may be okay in your view. It isn't in mine.
 
Some can only take certain things ... one small step at a time ... abstracts have to be processed ... not a hard shelled strength ... alas a humble gift? Present satyr ... they won't know the other side of it ...
 
Jae said:
Jesus Christ Superstar does not present Jesus' dual natures in balance Steven. Rather, it strips him of his divinity. That may be okay in your view. It isn't in mine.
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Jae, first you criticize Jesus Christ Superstar without ever having seen Jesus Christ Superstar. Now you're responding to what I said without having read (or at least understood) what I said.

I did not say that Jesus Christ Superstar was balanced. I said: "Superstar doesn't mock Jesus as much as it presents a story that's very heavy on the humanity of Jesus as opposed to the divinity of Jesus."

As such, it's a counter-weight to the portrayal of Jesus that's often very heavily weighted towards Jesus' divinity.

And, seriously, your criticisms of something you've never seen are getting tiresome. You don't want to watch it - fine. Don't watch it. But not having watched it, your criticisms of it are less than credible.

Personally, I'm recording it for viewing tomorrow.
 
I missed the first 45 minutes (had a senior's service) but the two younger girls were really enjoying it when I got home (and we watched the Jewison version this afternoon)
 
Jae said:
Watching it is not the only way to find out about it though Gord.

To use an analogy, when I see a "poison" label on a household product, I don't have to actually drink it to know it's unwise to.
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The problem with your analogy is that one is something that is evidence/science based and the other is a much more subjective piece based on interpretation.

I offer another analogy:
When Jesus is before Pilate (in John's Gospel) he asks "“Do you ask this on your own, or did others tell you about me?”" (18:34). Sermonically in the past I have taken that question to ask how we know Jesus and GOd -- through what we have been taught or by what we have experienced. Generally the answer needs to be both, and the experience tends to shape our opinion of what we have been taught.
 
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revsdd said:
Jae, first you criticize Jesus Christ Superstar without ever having seen Jesus Christ Superstar. Now you're responding to what I said without having read (or at least understood) what I said.

I did not say that Jesus Christ Superstar was balanced. I said: "Superstar doesn't mock Jesus as much as it presents a story that's very heavy on the humanity of Jesus as opposed to the divinity of Jesus."
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I was responding to this comment of yours Steven, "Jesus' two natures must be seen in balance, and too often the church has tilted the balance too far in the direction of Jesus' divinity."

revsdd said:
And, seriously, your criticisms of something you've never seen are getting tiresome. You don't want to watch it - fine. Don't watch it. But not having watched it, your criticisms of it are less than credible.
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So you say Steven. I can judge the show however I so choose, same as you can. I enjoy the same freedom of expression as you do.
 
I love the contemporary setting. Jesus was a controversial figure. This really highlights that well. Did he have the hysterical followers? Did he have the critics? Of course. I also like how it depicts his personal struggle at this time. It's very powerful.
 
Now I've seen how the media was used. I liked it. It fit with the contemporary feel.
 
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