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Agreed. Humanity seems to have an innate need to feel superior to someone, no matter how morally/otherwise dysfunctional one's own individual life might be.
 
Agreed. Humanity seems to have an innate need to feel superior to someone, no matter how morally/otherwise dysfunctional one's own individual life might be.
And yet many of those very same people would give up their very souls in the name of Jesus, an act most assuredly not wanted by Jesus himself.
 
Also agreed. Civilization is a pretty thin veneer on we who, socially, fall somewhere between the vicious chimp and the promiscuous bonobo, with precious little of the gorilla wisdom.
 
Airclean, can I ask you not to try insert your comments within somebody else’s quote, it makes it very, very difficult to reply to. I don’t mind the whole “Neo said” and “Airclean said” thing, but do all it after somebody’s quote. In other words, after you press the reply button, make sure your “cursor”, that little line on the screen where your words begin to appear as you type, is after the last “[/quote]”. If you start typing right after you press the reply button then the words should begin at the right place.

I’ll try to respond to your post now ...

Airclean said:
Neo said:
It is your real Self, the highest-most part of your being. It is formless and non-divisible, meaning that there is no such as "your" Spirit and "my" Spirit, because all Spirit is ONE.

As a single sun illuminates the whole world, even so does the One Spirit illumine every body.”
Krishna, Bhagavad Gita chapter XIII
I am sorry Neo as I know nothing of Krishna you talk about. I believe it to be an east Indian god. I do how ever believe humankind are all born of only One GOD, that being the GOD of Christ Jesus.
"It" is Sri Krishna, the East Indian equivalent of the Western Christ. My point in the above quote is how similar are the beliefs of east and west.

Airclean said:
Neo said:
The Soul, however, is divisible. "It is a permanent entity (after it has been unfolded out of the Spirit) and is the self-conscious individuality or Ego which incarnates and reincarnates in the human kingdom and beyond". It is the “I” of our being. It is the Consciousness Principle, the Mind Principle, in man. The soul is actually the same thing as the mind... The soul reincarnates but the spirit does not. Souls are many but spirit is essentially ONE.”
The soul, came out of the spirit that is you? Why then did not GOD talk about the soul in Gen? The body yes , the spirit yes, . The soul not a word. In JOHN6: 63. It says the spirit is to be saved , not the flesh. --No word on the soul. Were did it GO?
The Soul is a refection of Spirit, yet it's still not of the flesh. Where did the soul go from John 6:63? I suppose you would have to ask the author!
Airclean said:
Neo said:
The Spirit is to the Soul what the Soul is to the Body. And LIFE runs through them all.

Another way of considering Spirit, Soul and Body is with the words Life, Consciousness and Form.
The spirit of man ,is the life of the body. The spirit is also the life of the soul? If This is true would not the soul die, as will the flesh . When the spirit leaves and returns to GOD. I believe still , the word soul is no more than a mix up of saying spirit.
No, the Soul is not "The Word", that term is more descriptive of the Spirit, that invisible and ever changing energy that forms both the Soul of everything and the world of form we live in. Soul is the intermediary between Spirit and Form, just as Christ is the Son between the Father and the Mother. This is why the Christ Consciousness is also known as the Soul Consciousness. They are one and the same.

Does the Soul die as the flesh dies? In a way I suppose it does, but the time scale is so huge that we think of the Soul as eternal. Think about how you die each night to sleep, yet after thousands and thousands of days you eventually "pass on" to another realm. Now think of your individual life as but a day in the life of the Soul. Do you see how the Soul could be construed as eternal?

Airclean said:
Man I believe is of two parts . Flesh and spirit. Why is Humankind worth so much to GOD? Because that spirit came from GOD. Gen2:7
While the duality of man exists as spirit and form, there is also an intermediary between these polar opposites, an intermediary known as the "psyche", or the "Mind of Man". It was in the Book of Genesis that Man became "aware" of these opposites for the first time. This "awareness" between good and evil, spirit and form, is the Soul. This makes for a trinity of forces: Life, Consciousness and Form, Spirit, Mind and Body.

"Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
- Genesis 2:7
At this point man was a now a physical, living being. The breath of Life, Spirit, animating the Soul into Form.
 
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The world goes around in two directions? Anti-gravity!!!
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Includes some heavies and also unseen delights? Xrae perspectives ... the boson falls ... as quark ... producing human quirks!
 
You gotta join the club Rita, and then know that while you spend your eternity in heaven, the road to hell is paved with the souls of unbaptized babies, sinners, athiest, and generally those who were born in a different culture or have a different belief structure. How satisfying will that be?

A logical support system for underdogs ... the other cogs in the weil?
 
Airclean, can I ask you not to try insert your comments within somebody else’s quote, it makes it very, very difficult to reply to. I don’t mind the whole “Neo said” and “Airclean said” thing, but do all it after somebody’s quote. In other words, after you press the reply button, make sure your “cursor”, that little line on the screen where your words begin to appear as you type, is after the last “
”. If you start typing right after you press the reply button then the words should begin at the right place.

I’ll try to respond to your post now ...

"It" is Sri Krishna, the East Indian equivalent of the Western Christ. My point in the above quote is how similar are the beliefs of east and west.

The Soul is a refection of Spirit, yet it's still not of the flesh. Where did the soul go from John 6:63? I suppose you would have to ask the author!

No, the Soul is not "The Word", that term is more descriptive of the Spirit, that invisible and ever changing energy that forms both the Soul of everything and the world of form we live in. Soul is the intermediary between Spirit and Form, just as Christ is the Son between the Father and the Mother. This is why the Christ Consciousness is also known as the Soul Consciousness. They are one and the same.

Does the Soul die as the flesh dies? In a way I suppose it does, but the time scale is so huge that we think of the Soul as eternal. Think about how you die each night to sleep, yet after thousands and thousands of days you eventually "pass on" to another realm. Now think of your individual life as but a day in the life of the Soul. Do you see how the Soul could be construed as eternal?


While the duality of man exists as spirit and form, there is also an intermediary between these polar opposites, an intermediary known as the "psyche", or the "Mind of Man". It was in the Book of Genesis that Man became "aware" of these opposites for the first time. This "awareness" between good and evil, spirit and form, is the Soul. This makes for a trinity of forces: Life, Consciousness and Form, Spirit, Mind and Body.

"Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
- Genesis 2:7
At this point man was a now a physical, living being. The breath of Life, Spirit, animating the Soul into Form.[/QUOTE]

Does the soul die after man or is the word already laid out ... so the story goes on ... a delight as the smudgeing of sri krisna by some occult Christians ... still in the dark about incompatibility with those of us that only know of a wee spark in once in a while ... that visceral thingy ... how to cause cognizant dissonance in a passage ... plug it with Eris or disorderly's tuff?
 
Righteous? HM, I don't know. Cupertino's a pretty god guy - but salvation ice for humans.

Saved?No ... humans when dead just rot ... the essence goes on for some time though ... comes from the crypt where the royal doctrine in Europe allowed the burying of Medici mistakes ... unhealed heads of state?

We never learned until latent times what was really wrong therein! Excessively shared sex for some not enough for others and thus insane monarchs. Even the Caesars suffered they are said to scro' everybody senators and all their mates ... thus the invention of Sassenach ... sometimes known as black iron eh? Not attal ike that Austin lady ... she tried to make dialogue of the sect stainless ...
 
Saved?No ... humans when dead just rot ... the essence goes on for some time though ... comes from the crypt where the royal doctrine in Europe allowed the burying of Medici mistakes ... unhealed heads of state?

We never learned until latent times what was really wrong therein! Excessively shared sex for some not enough for others and thus insane monarchs. Even the Caesars suffered they are said to scro' everybody senators and all their mates ... thus the invention of Sassenach ... sometimes known as black iron eh? Not attal ike that Austin lady ... she tried to make dialogue of the sect stainless ...
Deck scenesence goes on be sauce God lovers ice. When we die, deck scenesences of ice righteous go to Heaven be sauce God lovers ice. Deck scenesences of deck wished go to a foretaste of Help be sauce God lovers demand. Ultimately, we righteous will be reunited wud our restored bodieds to live forever wud Shrift on deck new Wardrobe be sauce God lovers ice, while deliver wished will be sacrificed into re Lace of Fire to be punished forever be sauce God lovers demand. Horatio love date God. He ice all love all deck times an even in timeline was.
 
A Loving God provided a way back to heaven for all who want to accept His offer ---We humans screwed up not God ---we don't deserve to reside in a Holy place -----we deserve Hell for our disobedience ---we have no one to blame but our human selves starting with Adam and Eve -------Adam had a choice to do as he was told and he chose to disobey ----- we have a choice to sin or not to sin and we choose to sin so we are our own worst enemy ---God's Love is with us even when we choose to be unholy and expect to be admitted into a Holy Place ----we want to be in Heaven but we don't want to be sinless as sin is to much fun until we get caught then we want to blame someone else for our bad decision and getting caught in what we decided to do ------we want our cake and eat it to with no consequences ----here or after we leave here ------all sin has consequences here and beyond here that is the reality --------
 
Ha, ha, ha ... no matter what anyone said AC33 ... you wouldn't step beyond your institution into God's eternal territory ... you are a one book person ... mono thei ist ... no second breath or look as suggested by gods advocate ... very set in your way and unable to learn anything beyond what you are familiar with ... thus contemptuous to those beyond yah?

Really you're just a bit of foggier Eire ...
-- Thank you Luce . Yes I follow GOD" Through Christ Jesus. Not the supposed Ideas of Man. You or I" for that matter has no Idea, of all what GOD" is going to do in the future, I have seen some of that through GOD . What GOD has said ,to share , I have tried.
 
-- Thank you Luce . Yes I follow GOD" Through Christ Jesus. Not the supposed Ideas of Man. You or I" for that matter has no Idea, of all what GOD" is going to do in the future, I have seen some of that through GOD . What GOD has said ,to share , I have tried.

Are you limited to the Levite spots as the darker, heavier objectives are often in the Shadow ... well carpeted dirt on real life ... some neuropsychologists call this un-conscious, or even sub con science ... science being an old understanding about observation ... but people now insist on blind faith about eternal things so they won't have to know ... a free choice? In a visceral sense does this include BS?
 
So much stuff to consider out there under the midnight sun ... all strange than god's advocate ... a Ba'aL with toes to Dan's .. just something other than mortal understanding ... it is immortal and thus those strange NDe's and OBI's ...

Did the word say to sing and dance to infinite love ... something mortal-I'zed down Eire (Zed Buddy, differentiated? Something prone to integration) some say moor'B ID ... de stilled soul? The essence goes on unseen ... and the word does speak silently about unseen and ineffable things ... authorities don't wish us to speak of them ...
 
You gotta join the club Rita, and then know that while you spend your eternity in heaven, the road to hell is paved with the souls of unbaptized babies, sinners, athiest, and generally those who were born in a different culture or have a different belief structure. How satisfying will that be?
--Airclean--post--Who said about Babies going into Hell. Not The GOD I follow Neo . My GOD I Believe till age on 12-13 puts the child's sin on the parents. The child has no sin there for , till they understand what they are doing. The Word Of GOD is now been preached around the world. Jesus The Christ Has Died for Humankind. I believe if I went to the middle east and said ,I am a Christian most would know what I was saying.
 
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