How does one "choose" a Belief System?

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Wow! just wow, perhaps I should have said 150. either way. but someone would have argued the toss on that too. I just didn't think it would be you, someone like blackbelt, but you. Wow!
Wow!

Just having fun with you Pavlos.

Get over it, man. Loosen up a bit.

Having said that - if I, or anyone else of faith on this site, had played loose with the facts, you'd have been all over us. Don't expect a double standard to be applied for your sake.
 
Consider words as nothing ... only words ... just words? There is far more to it in the cumulative human psyche as discussed here:

Controversial of just vain as a psyche that is confined within something harsh and stern ...

Then if you think thoughts are naught ... perhaps so and thus beyond yew ... stretch of ankh?

Bit a Eire and a peace of bone ... resting there within myth ... what's myth? As shole one must imagine as tis dark inhere ...
 
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Through the imagination.
So the word faith was pulled out of someones imagination , okay. I suppose we could say that about language in general..... we have many words that describe the "unseen", such as "time", possibly because it is felt to be there....some would say, time doesn't exist either.
 
And so has any worthwhile progress that humanity has ever made. It starts by imagining something better. A vision.
Not all However. And then they go on to make their dreams become reality. Unless they wish to remain dreamers.
 
So the word faith was pulled out of someones imagination , okay. I suppose we could say that about language in general..... we have many words that describe the "unseen", such as "time", possibly because it is felt to be there....some would say, time doesn't exist either.
Then they would be idiots. Time is a label we put on matter in motion.
 
Agreed @P3. Pavlos, time certainly appears to be linear, but modern physics suggests that it might not be quite that simple; you seem very dismissive of any sort of intuitive sense. Have you never had an inexplicable/mystical/intuitive experience?
 
So the word faith was pulled out of someones imagination , okay. I suppose we could say that about language in general..... we have many words that describe the "unseen", such as "time", possibly because it is felt to be there....some would say, time doesn't exist either.
We can observe the passage of time. We can predict what will happen over a period of time. Time is one of the most observed things in the world. Note the key word there. Not everything that can be observed, can be seen. Time may not be 100% understood, but it exists because we observe it and predict it with remarkable accuracy, time and time again.

So yes, anyone who says that time doesn't exist is like someone who says the Earth is flat. "Idiot" seems charitable.
 
We can observe the passage of time. We can predict what will happen over a period of time. Time is one of the most observed things in the world. Note the key word there. Not everything that can be observed, can be seen. Time may not be 100% understood, but it exists because we observe it and predict it with remarkable accuracy, time and time again.

So yes, anyone who says that time doesn't exist is like someone who says the Earth is flat. "Idiot" seems charitable.
Some would say time is an illusion.
 
Interesting.....seeing as we only live in the present.

He's speaking from the standpoint of physics, I think, where things are a bit funkier than that. My present and your present may not be the same thing under certain conditions (e.g. if one of us is moving close to the speed of light or is at the event horizon of a black hole). Your idea isn't wrong. It works perfectly well for everyday life, but it is not how physics looks at time.
 
He's speaking from the standpoint of physics, I think, where things are a bit funkier than that. My present and your present may not be the same thing under certain conditions (e.g. if one of us is moving close to the speed of light or is at the event horizon of a black hole). Your idea isn't wrong. It works perfectly well for everyday life, but it is not how physics looks at time.
Basically, spacetime, the arrow of time, etc...... it's still a dance to explain time, yet perfectly acceptable to continue to search for answers.......faith is a also part of a dance that allows for various perceptions to continue along a path towards enlightenment. IMO
 
Real fast, or at the edge of a Black Hole ... a metaphor of close to an emotional brain ... or the Black Hole of mind ... alien metaphors for approximating things we know little about as they reside in a dimension out of touch of limited folks (mortals)?

Note: medical people sometimes hint that the brain is like the largest of gonads ... and what is in there ... well that's not well-known ... too adept at slippage ... lipid compounds in the limbic system ...? There are some electro-chemical-magnetic impressions however ... Max Swells black pool ... Ham Eire ... a severe blow when it hits yah? Tempest Yew Us ...
 
Some people live in the past and dwell on yesterday and some live in the future

and see doom and gloom or rosy everything.
Technically they dwell on their past memories and no one lives in the future, but may look forward to one which will create a new "now".....we are only capable of the now.
But I get what you mean.(y)
 
Basically, spacetime, the arrow of time, etc...... it's still a dance to explain time, yet perfectly acceptable to continue to search for answers..

I would say that there are several understandings of time and it is important to know which one you are dealing with.

In a room full of physicists, you need to pretty much go with what physics says (ie. the spacetime as described by the math of relativity). And that is a well-established theory, too. For instance, we use it to correct the clocks of GPS satellites relative to their ground stations. It has been argued that there is, in fact, no such thing as time but that's going beyond relativity and is still controversial.

Historians see time in terms of the changes that happen in society. This event happened before that event. There is an agreed upon time scale on which we pin these events so we can establish what happened first or what led to what.

Which is similar to how past time is experienced by us everyday but the events are smaller in scope. Graduation, first kiss, marriage, and so on instead of which king ruled when or which battle led to which other battle. The agreed upon scale is in years or even months instead of decades and centuries.

In everyday life, we experience time more subjectively and we can define it that way, but it's not something you can measure or describe mathematically. Living in the present means living in your own present as you experience it, but no one else can experience it that way. Sometimes an hour feels like forever, sometimes days fly by, but that's our experience, not reality. The clock still ticks at the same pace.

And, you're right, that puts on a similar footing with faith. Faith is something you experience in your own life and space but you cannot measure it in reproducible way or describe it mathematically or expect someone else to experience it the same way. Which is agnosticism, at least in a philosophical sense. You cannot prove your faith to me in a scientific way any more than you can prove that an hour at work goes slower than an hour having fun with your partner.

Which one do we live in? The everyday life one, of course. Though, again, dwelling on the past or fretting about the future may distort that experience in one direction or the other.
 
Some would say time is an illusion.
Lunchtime doubly so.

People can say what they want. Doesn't mean we can not observe time.

And here's the thing - this is a conversation with people who think God is a real thing, some of whom are suggesting time may not be. We've jumped the shark.
 
Under the Polarity Principle everything has poles or pairs of opposite charge:
  • One belief system says that a human being is separate from all others, designed to control others when they cannot or do not reason for themselves. This belief derives from man-made written codes that must be learned.
  • Another belief system says that each human is a cell of the collective web, and that all humans are connected as one entity, one interconnected humanity. This belief derives from Natural Law. Natural Law is not written, but intuitive and knowable by simple observation, reason, common sense, and deduction. ‘By your action, ye shall be known.’
 
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