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[Northwind]

Hmmmmm GodW now. I didn't realize you were such a powerful guy @GordW

 

[Northwind]

here is the thing GordW -----I am not interested in Worldly Interpretation of Scripture ----The Bible is a Spiritual Book and needs Spiritual Discernment which NO HUMAN can give -

And yet, it would appear that your human interpretation is the only one that is valid. You are dismissing any comments that don't fall in line with yours as worldly. How is your interpretation not worldly?

 

[Northwind]

 

[paradox3]

And yet, it would appear that your human interpretation is the only one that is valid. You are dismissing any comments that don't fall in line with yours as worldly. How is your interpretation not worldly?

Well, because she has the Holy Spirit indwelling which gives her the spiritual truth of scripture. Ergo, any other interpretation is worldly.

Try and discuss any of these matters with her and she will tell you that you lack the indwelling spirit, you are not a true Christian or you are behaving like a Pharisee. I have been told all of these things (more than once) on the bible study threads.

 

[Northwind]

Yes, I've been told I lack the indwelling spirit and that I'm a Pharisee too. Interesting assessment from someone I've never met in person.

 

[unsafe]

God is Love and He will love us no matter our Choice ----to accept His Free offer of Salvation or reject it -----we have the Choice -----being our Choice to choose where we want to reside eternally He will love us as we go to our self picked eternal resting place -----where we end up is all in our hands -----God did His part for us People -----

Life or death is in the power our own mouth -----and that is Scriptural ----

 

[paradox3]

@Northwind

Oh, yes, the latest from @unsafe was that I should not be calling myself a follower of Christ. As I often do, I responded to this pronouncement of hers. She was not being judgmental, she said, merely taking her direction from scripture. I am paraphrasing but that was the gist of the whole thing.

I have been happy to have her input on the bible study threads. But we get along better if we don't actually talk to each other.

I would be interested to know if unsafe is involved with a denomination and if there are others who think as she does. She seems to be a churchgoer but I haven't heard anything positive about church leaders from her.

 

[paradox3]

Wow ---this is all to funny ---you guys are like the Pharisees plotting on how to deal with Jesus -----

Nah. We are not plotting against you or trying to trip you up.

Just trying to figure you out.

 

[unsafe]

Here is the thing people ---if your talking about me then that is a positive thing as you are leaving someone else that you would be talking about alone ----So fill your boots

 

[paradox3]

Here is the thing people ---if your talking about me then that is a positive thing as you are leaving someone else that you would be talking about alone ----So fill your boots

Please explain.

 

[Northwind]

There's a broken record quality to her posts isn't there @paradox3 I'm not proud to be talking as if she's not here. That being said, it is not possible to engage in discussion. I suspect no one whether here or in person, will measure up to her standards. It's all well and good that she judge and use human interpretation (I know she'll deny that, but it's hapoening). The fact is, her type of judgement does nothing to attract me to that type of belief.

 

[Northwind]

Here is the thing people ---if your talking about me then that is a positive thing as you are leaving someone else that you would be talking about alone ----So fill your boots

Well we can't discuss with you. Your post makes no sense. Enjoy your self-righteous place.

 

[paradox3]

I'm not proud to be talking as if she's not here

Oh, I don't think we are talking about unsafe like she's not here. This is her thread after all.

 

[paradox3]

Your post makes no sense.

I didn't understand that post either so I asked @unsafe for an explanation.

I looked up the expression "fill your boots" because it was not familiar to me. Apparently, it refers to matadors filling their boots with blood. Or it can mean the same thing as being able to fill someone else's shoes.

More information would be helpful.

 

[Northwind]

My understanding of "fill yer boots" is it means "have at er" or "do what you will" . Sort of a have fun kind of thing. Of course we don't know for sure if the original author here is unwilling to explain to us Pharisees

 

[paradox3]

There's a broken record quality to her posts isn't there @paradox3

In a word, yes.

One thing I have learned from the evangelical voice on the bible study threads is that many of them consider the bible to be a single narrative. As such, any part of it can be used to explain any other. So the same themes often reappear regardless of the actual text we are discussing. I think this explains some of the repetition we see.

@unsafe has been good at identifying when she brings another passage into our discussions.

 

[paradox3]

My understanding of "fill yer boots" is it means "have at er" or "do what you will" . Sort of a have fun kind of thing. Of course we don't know for sure if the original author here is unwilling to explain to us Pharisees

@unsafe will probably be back. She usually doesn't abandon her conversations.

 

[GeoFee]

Hi,

Thinking about Frodo and his companions on the way to Mordor. Each of those companions being very different in small and large ways. Even so, they each offer their very best effort to overcoming the dark powers seeking domination of the earth and its diverse peoples. Are we not called to unity in the love of Christ by which we are born again? The divider, spouting the knowledge of good and evil, no longer has power over us. Even where I disagree with the interpretation of any other, I do not say that person is wrong and I am right.

Unsafe, you say you can accept difference, but your posts suggest otherwise. It appears that you are busy trying to decide who is good and who is evil. That is the forbidden fruit which leads to death. God spoke all of creation and every creature into being. All being declared "very good". God is the source and the substance of our human being. We bear the image of God. This whether we know it or not. Those who know it walk in the light of God. Those who do not know it live in the darkness of this world. The whole matter of transcendence; being in Christ who is seated at the right hand of God in heaven.

That said:

If your saying that all people who are sinners and who have not received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are One in Christ

I am saying that there is one human being on the planet. That human being was tempted to the knowledge of good and evil. This divided (devil) our human being from the presence of God's Holy Spirit. From that moment division sowed the seed of discord and conflict all along the human way. Our unity deeply divided with each side accusing (satan) the other of error. Much as you do here. We are in this together because God loves each of us. Once we come to know the love of God, we are animated to love our neighbour. Not to judge. To come alongside offering supports and encouragements. Much as a midwife presses the mother to push, push, push for the appearing of new life.

Not to say all are conscious of their unity in Christ. This does not exclude them from the love of God. Rather, the love of God shines on them, as the sun shines on the just and the unjust. The threat of hell has been used by religious powers in every age. In ancient Israel as in modern Christianity. By nurture of guilt and shame, these religious powers exploit the land and its people to establish temple economies. Only those who bow before the proclaimed doctrine will see heaven. Those who refuse to bow before the proclaimed doctrine will go to hell. Many are taken in by this threat based on fear. God does not threaten. God showers us with grace. We are edified and encouraged by the scripture. But we do not worship them as God.

you are in Fact stating False Doctrine and Wrongly Dividing the Word

I am not stating doctrine in any way shape or form. I am not justified by doctrine. I am justified by faith; just as Abraham was justified by faith. As were the prophets who suffered much for their resistance to the abuse of God's name in service to power and prestige. Jesus stood in this way and I stand in the way of Jesus. If you stand in name of Jesus, we are companions along the way leading to life. Or, you can read me as a liar who will be judged and cast into the lake of fire.

"It is no longer I who lives. It is Christ who lives in me."

George

 

[unsafe]

GeoFee -----You and I are on way different pages when it comes to scripture -----You made a claim that all people are one in Christ ----I said different and gave a scripture that backs up what I believe ----All I ask from you is that you provide a scripture that backs up your claim that unbelievers are included with Born Again People in being one in Christ -----

I have yet to see it -----

 

[GeoFee]

As I have said from the beginning, I am not justified by scripture.