Could Adam be the serpent??

[Luce NDs]

And the darkness of sol says that man is more a-damn trouble than heis worth ...

God'Sha dhow ... Eve vessel out of sorts?

 

[Bolt_upright]

Some would say this is heretical and I can understand.
I'm not trying to teach so much as to inform of things I've found to be interesting.

 

[Jaebius]

Some would say this is heretical and I can understand.
I'm not trying to teach so much as to inform of things I've found to be interesting.

It is interesting Bolt. Nevertheless, I personally do not hold it to be true.

 

[Luce NDs]

Some would say this is heretical and I can understand.
I'm not trying to teach so much as to inform of things I've found to be interesting.

I love religious curios that are somewhat insane to the institution that can't get into what's beyond ... out of Eire kind 've itemology ...

 

[Luce NDs]

It is interesting Bolt. Nevertheless, I personally do not hold it to be true.

Jae you can't hold a finger to a flame ...

 

[Jaebius]

Jae you can't hold a finger to a flame ...

I don't understand how that feeling fits into the discussion Luce. Can you please clarify.

 

[Luce NDs]

I don't understand how that feeling fits into the discussion Luce. Can you please clarify.

Are you not fearful of the ochre ...

 

[Jaebius]

Are you not fearful of the ochre ...

Sorry Luce, I don't understand. Why are you asking about an earth pigment?

 

[Luce NDs]

Sorry Luce, I don't understand. Why are you asking about an earth pigment?

Miss understood is important for the blind in fates ... thus you can't see what's coming ... ignore it Jae! Tis a kind've hue that allows shades ...

 

[Bolt_upright]

Has anyone read the exchange between the "serpent/whisperer" and the woman and find the way it goes if it were between the man and his wife?
How she says "ye" shall surly die instead of we?

 

[Luce NDs]

Has anyone read the exchange between the "serpent/whisperer" and the woman and find the way it goes if it were between the man and his wife?
How she says "ye" shall surly die instead of we?

Thus the lengthy thing was put out of sight an wizzled ...

The Origin of Satan was a good story based on the religious base ... that woman minster ... folded out of sight by pater arches ...

 

[Bolt_upright]

Would it not be fair to assume that if one's eyes were open when two partook, that if it is written that afterwards both of their eyes are open.. how does this change the assumption that one's eyes could have been open already?

Cheers
Bolt

 

[Luce NDs]

Would it not be fair to assume that if one's eyes were open when two partook, that if it is written that afterwards both of their eyes are open.. how does this change the assumption that one's eyes could have been open already?

Cheers
Bolt

Conception AL ????????/

 

[Jaebius]

Would it not be fair to assume that if one's eyes were open when two partook, that if it is written that afterwards both of their eyes are open.. how does this change the assumption that one's eyes could have been open already?

Cheers
Bolt

As Satan asserts, that is, according to Satan's claims, the man and his wife would have opened their eyes to a better understanding of good and evil.

Since then, as many tempters do, Satan has suggested that they will.

You can take good and follow it all the time, but the wicked can certainly avoid it. However the condition of wickedness does not arise in conformity to God's command. This is because the process of wickedness results in fear.

Let love, God, rely on God to be a heart for God.

 

[unsafe]

Bolt_upright ---your quote ------Was Peter a satan when Yeshua declared him so after being upset of Yeshua's ordeal to come?


Knowing your enemy and how he works Bolt_upright is crucial ----All Satan can do is to influence thoughts in our Mind ----no person can become Satan Bolt ------Possession of a body is the only way Satan can have control over a person's physical body -----

The Spiritual Battle is in the mind ------you either have God's good thoughts or you are influenced by Satan's bad thoughts ------

Satan influenced Peter's thought and he said what he thought ------Peter Himself that is his physical self was not Satan ------

When we continue to entertain bad thoughts we will either speak them or act on them or both ------Jesus knew that Peter's mind had been influenced by the enemy and was calling out Satan ---he wasn't calling the physical Peter Satan ----

God gives us the armour we need to protect us from the fiery darts of the evil one ------

Ephesians 6: 16

Study Bible
The Armor of God
…16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17And take the helmet of salvationand the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer and petition. To this end, stay alert with all perseverance in your prayers for all the saints.…


Satan is a Spiritual person who can only influence us by putting thoughts in our mind -----

We don't fight flesh and blood ----

Ephesians 6:12 (NIV)
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

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[Bolt_upright]

Bolt_upright ---your quote ------Was Peter a satan when Yeshua declared him so after being upset of Yeshua's ordeal to come?


Knowing your enemy and how he works Bolt_upright is crucial ----All Satan can do is to influence thoughts in our Mind ----no person can become Satan Bolt ------Possession of a body is the only way Satan can have control over a person's physical body -----

The Spiritual Battle is in the mind ------you either have God's good thoughts or you are influenced by Satan's bad thoughts ------

Satan influenced Peter's thought and he said what he thought ------Peter Himself that is his physical self was not Satan ------

When we continue to entertain bad thoughts we will either speak them or act on them or both ------Jesus knew that Peter's mind had been influenced by the enemy and was calling out Satan ---he wasn't calling the physical Peter Satan ----

God gives us the armour we need to protect us from the fiery darts of the evil one ------

Ephesians 6: 16

Study Bible
The Armor of God
…16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17And take the helmet of salvationand the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer and petition. To this end, stay alert with all perseverance in your prayers for all the saints.…


Satan is a Spiritual person who can only influence us by putting thoughts in our mind -----

We don't fight flesh and blood ----

Ephesians 6:12 (NIV)
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

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How does this change that the man Adam was right with her and if satan can influence Peter after walking in ministry for 3+ years with none other than the Saviour of mankind.
Why would it be so hard to see the pride of lucifer/light bearer become manifest in Adam?

 

[Bolt_upright]

There is no record in the KJV of Eve ever being banished from the garden.
The "man" yes, not the woman.

 

[Jaebius]

There is no record in the KJV of Eve ever being banished from the garden.
The "man" yes, not the woman.

She was created to be his helper.

 

[unsafe]

Bolt_upright ------Why would it be so hard to see the pride of lucifer/light bearer become manifest in Adam?

Your Grasping at straws to suit your whim Bolt_upright

unsafe says
Give me the scripture that says Adam was influenced by Satan then I will believe it -------

unsafe says
Here is a question for you using your quote here adding your name instead of Adam ------Why would it be so hard to see the pride of lucifer/light bearer become manifest in Bolt_upright ----unsafe Adds ------for posting this post ----- After all Satan's job is to take us away from God and His Word -----or twist the scripture to place doubt ----are you being influenced ---that is the real question -------

 

[revsdd]

Maybe there is a reason you don't see?

Or maybe I don't see because it's not there. That is another possibility. Maybe you're seeing something that isn't there.

My bible says Gen 5:2 "He created them both male and female and blessed them and named them (both) Adam at the time they were created."

I'd love to know which translation of the Bible you're using - or is it your personal translation from the Hebrew? In any event, in this context, as I said before, I'd argue that what's being used is the word "a-dam" rather than the proper name "Adam." So, yes, God created both male and female and called them "a-dam" - humanity.

I know you are going to try to teach me..

I'm here as a member of a discussion board, not as your pastor or your teacher. I engage in discussion. I share my opinions and interpretations and ideas. You might learn something from me.

I'm not your teacher or anyone else's for that matter.

Correct. Like me, you're here as a member of a discussion board and so you engage in discussion, you share your opinions and interpretations and ideas. I might learn something from you.

I'm just putting what I've found to be possible within scripture and my experiences of life.

And I have no desire to stop you. But I may at times disagree with you. That's part of what this site is for - to exchange ideas, hopefully respectfully.

You consider a talking snake rather than a manipulating human, like how satan works in this age?

I consider the talking snake to be a metaphor for temptation of all kinds.