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unsafe said:
Redbarron ----you said -----you tried to derail it with your own agenda.

That is a bold face lie -----I never tried to derail this thread ---at all ---your just using this justify your purple note -I was giving my view like everyone else on here ----you just hate the fact that I view things different than you and can't stand it ---so your using your puffed up authority to chastise Christians who think different that you do -----your the one that uses your own agenda to justify your wanting to get rid of more Bible Christians so you don't have to read what they say ------and like I said you are not exempt from adhearing to the code of conduct -----so better make sure your on the straight and narrow and if you fall off the wagon make sure you send yourself a purple notice -----just saying ---
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And this has WHAT to do with the thread topic?
 
Redbaron ---so now you get back on topic -----lets here what you have to say on this thread topic instead of sending purple notices to justify your own agenda which is to get rid of all the Bible Christians --just saying -----

Now Back to the topic of this thread ------
 
unsafe said:
Redbaron ---so now you get back on topic -----lets here what you have to say on this thread topic instead of sending purple notices to justify your own agenda which is to get rid of all the Bible Christians --just saying -----

Now Back to the topic of this thread ---
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Look at the vast majority of my posts on this thread. Most of them deal with the topic. Most of the ones that don't are replies to you, trying to set you straight.
It is not my agenda, by the way, "to get rid of all the Bible Christians." I have no idea where you got that idea. That's something you'll have to answer for yourself.
A gentle reminder (AGAIN) that the topic of this thread is finding common concerns among different religious traditions, and building on what draws the human family together, rather than focusing on what sets certain people apart from others.
The opening post is a reflection of how some people find, despite the dogmatic differences, and abuses of power on one party's part (as an example, the entire IRS system from its inception to its conclusion), that when we pray, as different as our prayers may be, we are approaching the same divine Mystery that surrounds us all. Kindly confine your posts to that topic.
 
Redbarron ----you said -----
Kindly confine your posts to that topic.

I say ---and that goes for you to -----
 
Unsafe, was my statement made in a post a few days ago correct when I wrote that you do not seem to believe there is much value in looking at other faith traditions?
 
Back to the thread's topic, here are some of the most relevant texts on the biblical attitude to other faiths:
Just as God brought Israel into Palestine, He also brought the Philistines and Arameans to Palestine from distant lands. All these ethnic groups are led by God, even though they may not recognize it:
"Are you not like the Ethiopians to me, O people of Israel? says the Lord. Did I not bring Israel up from the land of Egypt and the Philistines from Caphtor (Crete), and the Arameans (Arabs) from Kir (a place in Iraq territory)?"

Paul concedes the possibility of being saved, apart from formal profession of faith in Christ: e. g.G
"To those who by patiently seeking to do good seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life...When Gentiles who do not possess the Law do instinctively what the Law requires, these...are a Law to themselves. They show that what the Law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness (Romans 2:9,14)."

Paul seems to imply that pagans in the pre-Gospel era are not held accountable for their lack of faith in Him and hence need not be damned:
Paul: "God has overlooked the times of human ignorance, but now He commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30)."
"Sin is not imputed where there is no Law (Romans 4:15)."

What this means is that Christians must preach the Gospel everywhere, but must leave the final verdict on who is and is not saved to God.

Jesus seems to imply a non-exclusivistic big tent when He says: "Whoever is not against us is for us (Mark 9:40)."
 
The Jewish faith has always accepted the concept of the righteous gentile, and in fact, there's a suggestion that Job was a righteous gentile.
 
BetteTheRed said:
The Jewish faith has always accepted the concept of the righteous gentile, and in fact, there's a suggestion that Job was a righteous gentile.
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Well for those who want Job to be an actual person that is....

I think there have always been those within any faith group who see that there are righteous folk in other faith groups. There have always been those who insist the only way to be righteous is to be a part of the 'right' faith group.

Personallly I am sure that God works in many different ways, so who am I to say where God is or is not active in a person's life?
 
It certainly talks to the universality of a resignation to the lottery-like vagaries of fate.

I know people for whom the description "if they didn't have bad luck, they'd have no luck at all". My poor boarder, widowed in her 30s with 3 dependent kids, and a dependent brother, only one of them "useful" (and it wasn't the brother). She's just a cheerful, agreeable type of person.
 
BetteTheRed said:
It certainly talks to the universality of a resignation to the lottery-like vagaries of fate.

I know people for whom the description "if they didn't have bad luck, they'd have no luck at all". My poor boarder, widowed in her 30s with 3 dependent kids, and a dependent brother, only one of them "useful" (and it wasn't the brother). She's just a cheerful, agreeable type of person.
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Pragmatism as nun beta?
 
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