'Bible Believing?'

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My problem with "following the bible" is "which bible"? Between different canons for different sects, to translations, transliterations, paraphrases, etc., I just don't believe in the existence of some sort of "Bible God" who set a certain canon, in a certain translation, in a specific language as the "Word of God".
 
unsafe said:
For Christians, the current eschatological event was Jesus and the emergent church.
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I had to look up eschatological and here is what I found
: of or relating to the end of the world or the events associated with it in eschatology
and a recent example of eschatological in a sentence
: the pandemic feels both futuristic and biblical, eschatological and utterly banal

So for Christians, the current eschatological event is still Jesus and the emergent church?

And then I had to look up emergent church and I found

Emergent church practices ...
  • Prefer theology narrative instead of systematic.
  • Following Jesus is living the right way, not believing in the right things.
  • Eschatology: Building the kingdom of God on earth.
 
Redbaron said:
And you point would be...?
It seems to me that many who claim to 'follow the Bible' tend to be xenophobic, homophobic, and a few other -phobic. Phobias have to do with fear; yet 1 John tells us perfect love casts out fear. Galatians reminds us of the fruits of the Spirit-- love, joy, peace, etc. Fear is not mentioned in that list. Why are so many who claim to 'follow the Bible' so fearful, of different people, or different ideas, or such?
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Our fear of fear is our ... greatest fear?

Anyone you know that uses fear to swing the emotional-mental duality? Politicos ...
 
Redbaron said:
Here's an interesting article from Billy Graham's granddaughter, sort of illumining the thread topic.

www.usatoday.com

I'm Billy Graham's granddaughter. Evangelical support for Donald Trump insults his legacy.

By supporting Donald Trump, evangelical leaders are failing us and failing the Gospel. Christian women must step up where our church leaders won't.
www.usatoday.com
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That idea of humility from Micah strikes the heart of Graham's granddaughter's message (Lincoln Projection?) and then one drifts off to the concept of pride, vanity, or hubris ... even that old sage's comment that: "all is vanity, all is vanity" leaving us with the potential of neigh MS (nemesis)!

If one can read in depth ... would one read in tuit?

Then there is credulous as defined:
having or showing too great a readiness to believe things. ​

How quick are some irrational things believed without question or inquiry?

Did Jesus have doubters ... Thomasonians!
 
----The OP of this thread ----is about people saying they are Bible believing instead of following Jesus ------and they love the bible more than they love Jesus --- ---


Well the word Bible means a piece of paper or scroll ------"Bible," from Greek biblion "paper, scroll," also the ordinary word for "a book as a division of a larger work;" originally a diminutive of byblos "Egyptian papyrus.

So we see bible refers only to paper --scroll --not the words written on the paper ---- and these papers --scrolls were compiled and placed in a book form -----which was called the Bible Book -----they could have called it the Papyrus Book

So Christians are Word Believing as True Christians believe what is written on the paper --scroll is God inspired and truth ---- and these papers contain how we are to follow Jesus ----without the writing on the paper --scroll we would have no idea what we have to do to be followers of Jesus or how we are suppose to Agape Jesus -----

So we know the word Bible means paper --scroll ----so True Christians do not love the paper--(Bible ) by itself --- True Christians Agape the Inspired Word that is written on the paper --scroll ---why ---because Jesus is the Word as scripture says He is ------it is the Word who is Jesus that True Christians Agape ----

To Properly follow and Agape Jesus one needs to follow the written word -----on the paper --(Bible )-------So knowing what the word Bible really means is very important in my view ---as many I believe have the wrong concept of what it means -----
 
And YOU are wiggling around the question of "which bible"? Which canon? We don't even need to go as far as translations. Which collection of texts? Depending on whether you're Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Coptic, Protestant, different collections of books go into one bible. Which one is the right one? The oldest one? If that's the case, where's the Didache, one of the oldest extant Christian writings?
 
BetteTheRed ------I am not wiggling around anything ---your the one that has the problem with witch bible ---which canon etc --etc -----I don't worry about all that ---------I am not into all these Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Coptic, Protestant ---I am a follower of the way not any of these religions you list here ------
 
unsafe said:
BetteTheRed ------I am not wiggling around anything ---your the one that has the problem with witch bible ---which canon etc --etc -----I don't worry about all that ---------I am not into all these Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Coptic, Protestant ---I am a follower of the way not any of these religions you list here ------
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All the 'religions' Bette mentioned are Christian traditions of long standing.
 
Redbaron -----I say --I could care less if they are long standing Christian traditions ---they are man made religions ----and anyone today can say they are a Christian these days --- just because one uses the name Christian doesn't mean they are really a Christ--ian ----
 
Redbaron -----Greek word for canon

Strong's Concordance
kanón: a rule, standard

properly, a rod or straight piece of rounded wood to which anything is fastened to keep it straight; used for various who s
From kane (a straight reed, i.e. Rod); a rule ("canon"), i.e. (figuratively) a standard (of faith and practice); by implication, a boundary, i.e. (figuratively) a sphere (of activity) -- line, rule.


I personally think that many people create obstacles for themselves when it comes to God's word -----worrying about which canon is the right one and all this nonsense -----I got no time for being confused over that ----God is not the author of confusion ---Satan is -----

Maybe this will help ---I doubt it thought -----

The Bible: The Holy Canon of Scripture

bible.org

7. The Bible: The Holy Canon of Scripture | Bible.org

Introduction The fact of the inspiration of the Bible as God’s special revelation to man naturally leads to the question (since many other religious books were written during both the Old and New Testament periods) what particular books are canonical, that is, what books are inspired and should...
bible.org bible.org
 
But which Canon do YOU receive?

(You do realize, I hope, that the Canon is actually the result(s) of human committees making their best choices? Actually several different committees, as the several different Canons attest.)

You were right, though. The blurb from Bible.org didn't help you answer the question.
 
And it actually matters a great deal. The Catholic understanding of purgatory relies completely on Maccabbees.
 
Completely. You can come to some completely different understandings of "Scripture" depending on the texts you prefer/refer.
 
I was talking about this today.

Peter, and his references to the Rock, gives a real foundation to the "top down-ness" of Catholicism, in stark contrast to the irritatingly "bottom up" workings of the United Church.
 
There are also so many books MENTIONED in the Bible that are not included in the Bible that seem to have some importance.
 
I say bottoms us to the discussion ... and didn't Christ speak to the Publican?

That should biere some manna of circumstance!
 
I say -------You all are creating hoopla for yourselves ----and using which one is the right canon etc as an excuse so you can live the way you want to ---- you don't want to follow God's word at all in the first place -so you create obstacles and confusion so you can use it as a cop out from actually trying to follow the Word who is Jesus I hope you realise That -------
 
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