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Jaebius
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The AMP, unsafe, turns the Word's lamp into human opinion's disco ball.The Amplified Bible ---does not overwhelm the reader with Options ----
Where did you get that from ---
From Google
The Amplified Bible (AMP) can dilute clarity for continuous reading,
but it enhances clarity for word-by-word study.
Whether it helps or hurts depends entirely on how you use it
The frequent use of brackets, parentheticals, and synonyms breaks up the natural rhythm of sentences.
Unpacks Original Languages:
Ancient Greek and Hebrew words often have rich, multi-layered meanings that a single English word cannot capture.
Reveals Hidden Nuance:
It brings out shades of meaning, tense, and emphasis that are usually lost in standard translations. [1]
Do use it for: Micro-study, unpacking difficult verses, and clarifying theological terms.
Proverbs 4:7---different translations ----AMP at the bottom
New International Version
The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding.
New Living Translation
Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do! And whatever else you do, develop good judgment.
English Standard Version
The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom, and whatever you get, get insight.
Berean Standard Bible
Wisdom is supreme; so acquire wisdom. And whatever you may acquire, gain understanding.
Berean Literal Bible
The first thing is wisdom; acquire wisdom, and in all your acquiring, acquire understanding.
King James Bible
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
New King James Version
Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding.
New American Standard Bible
“The beginning of wisdom is: Acquire wisdom; And with all your possessions, acquire understanding.
NASB 1995
“The beginning of wisdom is: Acquire wisdom; And with all your acquiring, get understanding.
NASB 1977
“The beginning of wisdom is: Acquire wisdom; And with all your acquiring, get understanding.
Legacy Standard Bible
The beginning of wisdom is: Acquire wisdom; And with all your acquiring, acquire understanding.
Amplified Bible
“The beginning of wisdom is: Get [skillful and godly] wisdom [it is preeminent]! And with all your acquiring, get understanding [actively seek spiritual discernment, mature comprehension, and logical interpretation].
Hebrew word for wisdom
Lexical Summary
chokmah: wisdom, skill, wisely
; wisdom (in a good sense) -- skilful, wisdom, wisely, wit.
חָכְמָה (chokmah) is the comprehensive, God-centered
They have added this -----[it is preeminent]
But this does not change the meaning of the scripture in any way ----it enhances the importance of getting Wisdom -----
KJV Dictionary
Pre-eminence
PRE-EM'INENCE, noun
Superiority in excellence
Hebrew Word for -----Understanding
Lexical Summary
binah: understanding, discernment, clearly
Definition and Scope of Meaning
בִּינָה (binah) encompasses intellectual discernment, moral insight, and the God-given capacity to grasp the implications of truth. It is more than knowledge; it is the ability to differentiate, to weigh, and to choose rightly in light of God’s revelation.
All the Amplified Bible does is give you the Greek and Hebrew meanings of some words which give you a better understanding of what the scripture is conveying -----
I see this same impulse in how you compromise Gen. You pile on “nuance” until the plain meaning of “evening and morning, the first day” is lost.
The AMP does the same thing with wisdom literature.
Scripture needs our submission.
If you truly want to honour the text, unsafe, quit defending the AMP’s clutter and return to a translation that trusts God’s Word to speak plainly.
But then, you like the AMP too much. It lets you dress up your nonsense with foreign language studies
Jaebius
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The soul and spirit, Luce, endure.
When we overpower with muscle alone, we miss truth shaping hearts' eternal work.
Virtue's God’s grace at work in us. That’s why even when lies are powerful, they can’t stand against creation's reality and God's truth revealed from the start.
Only truth rooted in God’s design carries virtue where deception doesn't.
For me, the beauty's that the soul aligned with God’s Word's stronger than any “tough butt”
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God's Salvation needs no participation from us ---Salvation is by God's grace Through His Faith in His Son Jesus Christ ----
Why can't you understand human Response has to come into it =====we have to respond by and through Christ's Faith -----and receive the Free Graced Gift of Salvation ----
Theological Emphases
Divine Sovereignty
The verb presents God as the sole architect of salvation and history. Human response is real and commanded
I don't understand why YOU can't understand that -----
John 1
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—
13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
It IS US WHO DOES THE RECEIVING ---there Jaebius ------
God Has to Change our Heart to accept His Word -----to inbirth His Faith in us =====then We have to receive---accept ---welcome --take in---- Jesus in our Heart through that Faith ---
Greek word for RECEIVE
Lexical Summary
dechomai: To receive, accept, welcome, take.
properly, to receive in a welcoming (receptive) way. 1209 (déxomai) is used of people welcoming God (His offers), like receiving and sharing in His salvation (1 Thes 2:13) and thoughts (Eph 6:17).
means receive with "ready reception what is offered"
The personal element is emphasized with 1209 (déxomai) which accounts for it always being in the Greek middle voice.
This stresses the high level of self-involvement (interest) involved with the "welcoming-receiving." 1209 (déxomai) occurs 59 times in the NT.]
Mission strategy must include discernment of “worthy” households and cities, i.e., those willing to receive (Matthew 10:11).
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Jaebius
You get a free gift that you did nothing for from a friend ----it is a free gift no strings attached ----and your on your couch reading a book ----and this friend says ----I am putting your free gift on your dining room table -----so there sits your Free Graced gift ----you Believe your gift is on that table like your friend said -----but you Haven't personally picked up or received or taken unto yourself that free graced gift yet -----but it is there for you
Later on in your Belief---Faith ---that you have a free Graced gift on the table waiting for you ---you put that belief into action and go to the table and Personally Receive ---accept and welcome that free Graced Gift unto yourself ---
Only then do you Personally have the free Graced Gift ------The gift was always there ----but until you personally received it ---it remains just a Free Graced gift waiting to be accepted ---welcomed or received -----
The soul is the mind is some theories ... and some do say that anything can happen in mind ... imagine thougth being provoked there and responding.
Is action/reaction like responding to aggressive behaviour ... natural except in your head?
Thus in the head nothing reacts if the thing is vegetating or as some leaders demand ... it should be non-WOKE! Explains the ancient tree myth about wisdom as fossil psyche ... hard stuff ...
Realize whatever your perspective if you are in God's mind you are abstract ... shadowy?
That works is some theories about nothing occurring in heaven ... dull and unexciting? No progress ... no Christian rush on Sunday morning and loss the rest of the week ... delinquent weeks make me feint ...
Further more ... is not soul and spirit non physical existence?
Kind 've out there ... A Nietzsche of its own ... dark and hard to explain ... innate ... disseminated: In (not) nate (wise)! Metaphor of mores extent ...
Is action/reaction like responding to aggressive behaviour ... natural except in your head?
Thus in the head nothing reacts if the thing is vegetating or as some leaders demand ... it should be non-WOKE! Explains the ancient tree myth about wisdom as fossil psyche ... hard stuff ...
Realize whatever your perspective if you are in God's mind you are abstract ... shadowy?
That works is some theories about nothing occurring in heaven ... dull and unexciting? No progress ... no Christian rush on Sunday morning and loss the rest of the week ... delinquent weeks make me feint ...
Further more ... is not soul and spirit non physical existence?
Kind 've out there ... A Nietzsche of its own ... dark and hard to explain ... innate ... disseminated: In (not) nate (wise)! Metaphor of mores extent ...
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Jaebius
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unsafe, grieve at the pastoral danger here.
You're teaching people to look inward at their own "receiving" rather than upward to Christ’s finished work. That breeds insecurity. Doubt. Endless self-examination!
I must rebuke it sharply. Salvation's monergistic!
You only contribute the sin that made salvation necessary.
John 6, Rom 9 and the doctrine of irresistible grace each demolish your notion that human reception's the decisive factor
Jaebius
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The God who created the heavens and the earth in six literal days, unsafe, is not half-measures' God.
His creative word brings immediate reality. His saving word brings immediate transformation!
When He says, “Let there be light!” There's light. When He says, “You're mine!” the sinner's redeemed. No waiting. No table. No delay!
Your illustration's inadequate and misleading. The elect before they're saved are dead in their trespasses and sins. Dead. They can't stroll over to some table somewhere to pick up a gift.
Salvation's a gift sovereignly placed into the elect's hands by God
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Jaebius
You Seriously need to pray to the Holy Spirit for the Rhema Word about Salvation being inward ---
Your listening to a Man not God's word ------
What does it mean that with the mouth confession is made unto salvation (Romans 10:10)? | GotQuestions.org
What does it mean that with the mouth confession is made unto salvation? What is the meaning of Romans 10:10?
www.gotquestions.org
In Romans 10:10, Paul parallels the internal reception of God’s commands and the internal belief in Christ.
The words “with the heart one believes unto righteousness” indicates that salvation starts with an inward faith.
This belief is not merely intellectual acknowledgment but a personal conviction. The righteousness comes from being justified or declared righteous before God. The transformation from an unrighteous state to a righteous one occurs through faith in Jesus Christ. Paul made an earlier assertion in Romans 3:28 that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Paul’s emphasis on the heart reflects that salvation is an intimate and internal experience.
It’s a deeply personal transformation. Faith in Christ results in a right standing before God. Belief is more than mental assent; it is a deep-seated trust in Jesus as Savior that changes sinners into saints.
Jaebius
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God’s Word, unsafe, works in us, bringing both inward conviction and outward testimony.Jaebius
You Seriously need to pray to the Holy Spirit for the Rhema Word about Salvation being inward ---
Your listening to a Man not God's word ------
What does it mean that with the mouth confession is made unto salvation (Romans 10:10)? | GotQuestions.org
What does it mean that with the mouth confession is made unto salvation? What is the meaning of Romans 10:10?www.gotquestions.org
In Romans 10:10, Paul parallels the internal reception of God’s commands and the internal belief in Christ.
The words “with the heart one believes unto righteousness” indicates that salvation starts with an inward faith.
This belief is not merely intellectual acknowledgment but a personal conviction. The righteousness comes from being justified or declared righteous before God. The transformation from an unrighteous state to a righteous one occurs through faith in Jesus Christ. Paul made an earlier assertion in Romans 3:28 that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Paul’s emphasis on the heart reflects that salvation is an intimate and internal experience.
It’s a deeply personal transformation. Faith in Christ results in a right standing before God. Belief is more than mental assent; it is a deep-seated trust in Jesus as Savior that changes sinners into saints.
I see this same pattern in creation. God speaks. His Word brings life.
Just as He spoke the world into existence in six days, He speaks new life into our hearts.
That inward miracle's what makes outward confession possible.
Salvation's never hidden. The inward reality always bears outward witness.
That’s the harmony Paul's pointing to
How great must the quality of stupid grow until we know nothing? Only then does the entire realm of knowledge become private and out of the public ... allowing for private control by those with access to what isn't known. To be nothing but occupied by nothing that is here right now ... drained? Should a story have more to them than emotions?
But what if they have no understanding of this private heap ... will it be just so much waste and thus prodigal; a glowing error in the entire expanse except for the holes in the mystery? The simple has suddenly become symbiosis in order to feed off one another ... between the two is a turbulent third that shall cause something to bubble up as iconic ...
You cannot teach pure information to the gods ... it must carry on something ... thus we must be Karen on ... Carrie Ooze ... the powers declare yous do it! Great leader assign this all out to the fringe surroundings ... because of the obvious; to get where they are at the gave up on fine knowledge for brute power of the club, or other power organization. Nothing subtle to be seen as it is all in descent with the mind in a land of high hearts and other hard upstanding portions as the saying develops about pediments to knowledge on the low side ... once IO'st'd -ite by driving it in with a ha' mere ... mysterious Cye? Ci ...
Thus so much gets passed back and forth ... a sector unseen as buried along the routes ...
What does this all mean? We don't know because of the overwhelming need to conflict on this side so as to avoid coopting ... thus dah coop ... small cut presenting the red stars ... numbed in communion ... it keeps us down!
Accept it down here under the heavens nothing makes sense up there ... in the great hole thing ... but still it comes down ... ineffable in the dark, so if you find any understanding the rule is to keep it in the dark ... and so be it as you can tell in this functional thread ...
Where are things known? Plainly it can't be here it must be out there ... thus some wander while others are occupied in conflicting opinions ... about baseline income since with AI you aren't allowed to contribute a thing ... thus nothing develops ... I and yous move on as a whe thing in the imagined tree of logo ... og*ol that backwards in ras pell! Then you might speak respectfully of those that know things you didn't wish ... to know primarily through some initiation in life ... screw jack is a crank? Expect it to go all around and cover everything ... like someone mad in a hat ...
Certainly listening to non sense about believing things, never experienced, occupies me ... makes life quite an experience in itself and perhaps something to stay out of as conflicted from the first threads an turns of cross threads ... something to observe if you stay out on the fringe ... but around! Expect eruptions both ways ... one getting intuit the other escaping ... both have concerns about what's to be lost in a world where such sharing is denied due to privatization and abuse of les sor AL ... a plant that's vegetating ...
Beyond that it is out there ... rising towards delight! In a manner of's peak -ing (hanging participle). These can be arranged ... by art's Aye ... thus artifacts ... created over nothing ... sometimes not requiring much! maybe a few grunts over occurrents under the dark parts ... occipitals?
But what if they have no understanding of this private heap ... will it be just so much waste and thus prodigal; a glowing error in the entire expanse except for the holes in the mystery? The simple has suddenly become symbiosis in order to feed off one another ... between the two is a turbulent third that shall cause something to bubble up as iconic ...
You cannot teach pure information to the gods ... it must carry on something ... thus we must be Karen on ... Carrie Ooze ... the powers declare yous do it! Great leader assign this all out to the fringe surroundings ... because of the obvious; to get where they are at the gave up on fine knowledge for brute power of the club, or other power organization. Nothing subtle to be seen as it is all in descent with the mind in a land of high hearts and other hard upstanding portions as the saying develops about pediments to knowledge on the low side ... once IO'st'd -ite by driving it in with a ha' mere ... mysterious Cye? Ci ...
Thus so much gets passed back and forth ... a sector unseen as buried along the routes ...
What does this all mean? We don't know because of the overwhelming need to conflict on this side so as to avoid coopting ... thus dah coop ... small cut presenting the red stars ... numbed in communion ... it keeps us down!
Accept it down here under the heavens nothing makes sense up there ... in the great hole thing ... but still it comes down ... ineffable in the dark, so if you find any understanding the rule is to keep it in the dark ... and so be it as you can tell in this functional thread ...
Where are things known? Plainly it can't be here it must be out there ... thus some wander while others are occupied in conflicting opinions ... about baseline income since with AI you aren't allowed to contribute a thing ... thus nothing develops ... I and yous move on as a whe thing in the imagined tree of logo ... og*ol that backwards in ras pell! Then you might speak respectfully of those that know things you didn't wish ... to know primarily through some initiation in life ... screw jack is a crank? Expect it to go all around and cover everything ... like someone mad in a hat ...
Certainly listening to non sense about believing things, never experienced, occupies me ... makes life quite an experience in itself and perhaps something to stay out of as conflicted from the first threads an turns of cross threads ... something to observe if you stay out on the fringe ... but around! Expect eruptions both ways ... one getting intuit the other escaping ... both have concerns about what's to be lost in a world where such sharing is denied due to privatization and abuse of les sor AL ... a plant that's vegetating ...
Beyond that it is out there ... rising towards delight! In a manner of's peak -ing (hanging participle). These can be arranged ... by art's Aye ... thus artifacts ... created over nothing ... sometimes not requiring much! maybe a few grunts over occurrents under the dark parts ... occipitals?
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Jaebius
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Luce, see it a bit differently. Scripture tells us that "the fear of the Lord's wisdom's beginning!" (Pro 9:10). True knowledge’s grounded in God, who reveals truth openly in His Word.
The Shepherd who seeks the lost sheep (Luke 15) shows us that even when we wander into mystery or error, He pursues us with clarity and grace.
I see creation itself as God's power and design's clear declaration from the start (Genesis 1)
Thus the great fear of love itself and we are stunned between fear and knowledge ... isn't that mean? How to extract oneself from these meanings as hanging unkept ... like sparks in the overhead ... or ah brai ham going uphill to raise humors ... iconic! A thing of literature ... for mulling if you can mullet!
Just for chewing over if you can mullet as a metaphor ... nothing remains but the bones in that post vale ... stuffed? Potentially psyche or just abstract and dark ... this has its turns! Flashes in Sophie ... as beats of a distant drum ... the firmly arrested and fixed will not go further for their own rational based of what we are not privy to ... like a deep place of kings ... arid? They refuse to sweat ... just lodge it ... stick it anywhere ... and never remember ...
Take note of queries of those on top of everything ... resembles extended PTSD ...
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