Agnosticism, atheism, and "spiritual struggle"

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Luce NDs said:
Right on ... and thus we rest a bit for the next grind ... hard learning curve! What was it they used to call that dippy item ... a clouded assimilation.

It is opposed by Kubler-Ross ... thus E frame of Eris ... dissonance! Maybe even Ephraim ... that's biblical ... people often don't read it because of paranoia ...
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I think I’m beginning to see the thread running through your posts — the struggle between fragmentation and integration.

People often seem more comfortable with fixed camps and rigid identities, while the “medium” or fence line creates discomfort because it blurs certainty. That may be where the Eris/dissonance comes in — the resistance to assimilation or cojoining.

The irony is that growth often seems to happen in exactly that clouded space, where old structures loosen before something more unified forms. Maybe that’s why the learning curve feels like a grind.
 
JayneWonders said:
I think I’m beginning to see the thread running through your posts — the struggle between fragmentation and integration.

People often seem more comfortable with fixed camps and rigid identities, while the “medium” or fence line creates discomfort because it blurs certainty. That may be where the Eris/dissonance comes in — the resistance to assimilation or cojoining.

The irony is that growth often seems to happen in exactly that clouded space, where old structures loosen before something more unified forms. Maybe that’s why the learning curve feels like a grind.
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Lets just refer to it as the means ... kind of paradigmatic ... ingenuity ... requires some considerable input ... you just can't take away continuously!

Thus Luce is off ... any parting words?
 
Luce NDs said:
Lets just refer to it as the means ... kind of paradigmatic ... ingenuity ... requires some considerable input ... you just can't take away continuously!

Thus Luce is off ... any parting words?
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Perhaps that is the balance point — critique alone eventually empties the vessel, while ingenuity adds something back into the stream.

The “means” may not be about choosing rigid sides, but about remaining capable of connection, contribution, and reinterpretation without losing oneself in the process.

Interesting conversation, Luce. Safe travels along the next curve.
 
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