WHen Do we Start Afresh?

unsafe said:

There is only one Rhema word which is the Spiritual meaning behind the Logos word -which is given by the Holy Spirit to Born Again people

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Like the seer stones given to Joseph Smith by the angel Moroni?

chansen said:

Like the seer stones given to Joseph Smith by the angel Moroni?

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Then the great unknown presented strange, alien and funny things that made space rock ... hard to accept for those totally absorbed in the opposite's Ide! metaphor ... some say it is an illegitimate aphorism as bate ... thus that spiral hole thing ... causes daze ...

Can you imagine ripples in dead space? That's really far out ... Einstein suggested relativity on a base that questioned or qualm 'd! Quantum states ... requires considerable jump of the particles ... I'm told that's beyond me as a denied beast to most as they despise knowledge that is beyond eM ...

Thus devoid stretches ... and there he was gone again ... off on what else ... Tanned Gent? Torched ... everyone should carry one????

This applied particularly when entering a dark zone ... where little is well known ... a good point? I am ... J Suis had one in the side ... a stitch?

It was quite a myth ...

Can mortals understand the immortal that they have been responsible for laying out there ... far over and out ... roger?

unsafe said:

There is only one Rhema word which is the Spiritual meaning behind the Logos word -which is given by the Holy Spirit to Born Again people

You read the Logos word only ---

I read the Rhema word which the Holy Spirit gives to believers -----

So there are 2 ways to read scripture but only one Spiritual Truth -----

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You are agreeing (with nuance);with Agent @BetteTheRed:
You always interpret. Every act of seeing, of perceiving is an interpretation. Words never, ever have one usage. That is both good (it enables us to communiticate in complex ways) and bad.
When we say something IS something, we are making a choice oot of all the possibilities and going "this is the meaning I choose"


When you tell her things like "you read the Logos", again you are making a choice (and also, again, this fits in with your...need? to generalize and mind read her heart and intentions?)

(so you cannot Objectively Determine that she doesn't have the Spiritual Truth -- again you choose)

We can never get away from choice. Again, both good and bad

That's my riff

Delightful Life said:

(so you cannot Objectively Determine that she doesn't have the Spiritual Truth -- again you choose)

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OH YES I CAN -------

It's about that time again where I point out that my beliefs are happily nowhere close to unsafe's.

unsafe said:

OH YES I CAN -------

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Unless you know her heart you can't
Only she and God can
(btw beautiful art there; where did you find it? It is VERY gay )

Delightful Life said:

Unless you know her heart you can't
Only she and God can

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Thank you DL.

Those who believe that they have the ONE RIGHT TRUTH like to demonize the rest of us who can see grey, nuance, the trillion faces of godde.

Seek justice, love kindness and walk humbly with their god.

What is right and righteousness if you are limited in vision because of the fog of great will ... it covers something up! What happens when you believe emotionalism is the greatest power? Does one loose something ... a friend that is unseen ...

May parallel Einstein's conception of the abstract mind that is yet beyond mortals ... immortal? Tread lightly because the transient point is treacherous also ... some famous person said that about a stick, staff and rod of balance ... thus the spine of a tome ... the story of mortal brutality goes on ... a learning curve? If too tight ... both the train and the rails are in danger of failure ... go wide! Look on from out there ... you may find it like a circus!

Many of the parts have a firm believe while the other watches ... overlooking? Really agitating to those that believe they're perfect ... when all are muddled ... Piegan Latin?

BetteTheRed said:

Those who believe that they have the ONE RIGHT TRUTH like to demonize the rest of us who can see grey, nuance, the trillion faces of godde.

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I never Said thay I myself can have the one right Truth ---I am not capable of understanding the Spiritual meaning of the Scripture and neither are any of you ------

The Only Person who is capable of understanding Spiritual Truth is the Holy Spirit who dwells within the person who has made the DECISION --

To Accept God Drawing and had their heart changes from Hardened to a Receptive heart to Hear the Gospel which inbirths the Christ's Faith in the person to believe God's word and realize they need a Saviour ---

and Through that Inbirthed Faith made the DECISION to Accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and Have the INDWELLING of the HOLY SPIRIT who gives the Person the ABILITY to HEAR the SPOKEN RHEMA Word ---

which Gives the Person the Spiritual meaning Behind the Written Word -----

We all have that choice To Accept or Reject --------so that is on US FOLKS ---NO WORLDLY PERSON has the Ability to See or Hear or figure out what the Scripture is Saying SPIRITUALLY -------Only God has that Ability ------and the Born Again Person Has God residing IN THEM ------Like it or Not -----That Is the TRUTH ---Folks --------

unsafe said:

That Is my TRUTH

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Fixed yer typo. You're welcome.

Is there a greater truth based on a social psyche? Requires far more input from a broader base ... down there eh?

Obviously this would be degraded by individualistic power standing all alone like a lion out there ... raining on the plane like Pistis! Wrong kind of wisdom ... a line of power look on badly by the humble ONE!

Can the broad base be sold off like Mayor of Casterbridge Story? There is some kind of sacrament hidden there ...

Excuse me for my mental rambling ... I do wonder in the strangest of realms ... it is the essence of the last frontier!

Few will even hear of it because of the directive that mental processing is evil ... can we figure out that purpose? It may resemble as logical follicle ... somewhat like hairy and Harold the angel ... they streak across the great opening we call rapture ... Ciel? We may dust through it as great speed ... some organizations are dead against even considering that it isn't flat as it parallels what's underfoot ... both may be in error! Thus hemi spheres ... cups!

They show up in South Pacific ...

Is the social psyche more integral that the individualized version? Just seems to add up ... but what would I know as a stupid student of intellectual items of unknown? Brute mystery ... unresolvable ...

BetteTheRed said:

Fixed yer typo. You're welcome.

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When you have something completely unverifiable like that, "true for you" is the best you can legitimately claim. It's not an impressive claim, but at least it's honest.

BetteTheRed said:

Fixed yer typo. You're welcome.

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And I fixed it Back to what it should be ---

unsafe said:
That Is The TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!

and on and on we could go --------

Edith Ann, anyone?

She was a character on Laugh-In. She was a five year old girl who often said ...
And that's the TRUTH

Played by Lily Tomlin.

unsafe said:

And I fixed it Back to what it should be ---

unsafe said:
That Is The TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!

and on and on we could go --------

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No. It can stop here. Everyone can see your assertion is bald. There's no need to go in circles.

Aggrippan Trillema time!!! :3

Delightful Life said:

Aggrippan Trillema time

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Not Quite when it comes to the Spiritual Rhema word of Scripture -----which is given by God indwelling in the Born Again person ------God Only knows the Spiritual meaning Of HIS WORD -----and therefore can give the Spiritual meaning to His Born Again Children -----

Agrippan Trilemma would apply to the Natural Man using his Intellectual human belief of what the Scripture is saying -----as the Natural man has not the ability to understand the Spiritual Meaning of what the Scripture is actually saying to the Spiritual Person who had God indwelling in them -------

The True Spiritual meaning Relies on Christ's Faith and Divine Revelation ---not the intellectual mind through Human faith ---which is what the Natural man has ------

So your argument of Agrippan Trilemma is Mute as to the Spiritual Truth that God Reveals to His Children through His Faith and Revelation via the Holy Spirit ----

Proof is not needed----it is Just Believed by and through the Indwelling Faith Of Christ which comes from Hearing the word when you accept God the Father's drawing to have a heart change to allow the Gospel to be believed -----


AI
Theological Perspective

Agrippan Trilemma highlights the limits of strictly human, secular reasoning.

Spiritual truth is fundamentally a matter of faith and divine revelation rather than something that can be strictly proven using human logic .




Biblically, Agrippa’s trilemma does not account for the reliability of the Bible’s truth claims.

Truth is an attribute of God and a defining characteristic of Scripture, since He is “the God of truth” (Isaiah 65:16) and His Word is truth, as Jesus prayed, “Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth” (John 17:17).

In Scripture, the justification of truth is not primarily about whether it can be proven from a human perspective, but about what God has revealed as truth.

Like many other “empty philosophies” (Colossians 2:8, NLT), which question whether beliefs can be fully justified, the Agrippa trilemma collapses under its own logic.

If it is true, then the argument itself cannot be fully justified. It, too, would face one of the three problems it describes. In this way, the argument circles back on itself, returning to where it started without advancing understanding or reasoning.

Biblically, discovering truth starts with knowing Jesus Christ, who said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).