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unsafe said:
This says -----the words of Prophecy of this Book ------The whole Bible from Genesis to revelation is about God's word of Prophecy -----and His Prophecy is still playing out -------
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Except the Bible as we use the term did NOT exist when John of Patmos wrote down his vision. SO it can't refer to something that does not exist. IT can refer to what John himself wrote. As I recall such pieces were not unknown in the ancient world.
 
unsafe said:
2 You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you.

This does not say this just refers to Deuteronomy only ---this says to the Word ----the whole Bible is God's word ------
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For someone who claims to only read but not interpret you are sure doing a whole lot of interpretation here. A strict reading of that verse would be that only the text of the law found in Deuteronomy is to be read as binding.
 
unsafe said:
Like what ????????
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Isn't God's word infinite as it reaches forth a long way ? Only mortal powers try and contain it in a box, etc.

Then the 3rd T might be good as a bride from the initial (pagan) 2 ... until something logical comes forth ...

Have you noted the growing irrationality in the real world? Can one extract a wee bit of rationality from the entire item of bother, concern, worry, trouble, etc.? Now there is a vast challenge ... requiring further metaphor ... additional books, or biblios+ ... the story goes on ...
 
I do believe that God is beyond us ... some determined sorts just believe they have the item in hand when it is only part of the infinite myth (story, ballad, or other metaphorical item) that is prone to alteration and thus alter egos ... leading to superior egos that have failed in the real world ... too superfluous for ultimate use of the utilitarian nature that goes on and on ... usually about things impossible to be aware of from a mortal (limited) perspective ... see?

The elimination that occurs between the uncertain and determined does cause cracks in what was believed to be ongoing ... thus the Theory of Heisenbug vs Palling ... it settled in like a cloud over Roma behind a great horse ... from which something fell ... Constantine saw it alight ... aloft? It was up there in the overhead ... then as always it come down ... with implications and a load of complexity ...
 
Imagine the putting together of opposing powers as an abstraction? The outcome a harry thing with kisses sweeter than wine ... abstention was developed at least until the lesser power was adequately settled ... by the deliverer. Deliverance always raises a dissonance ... (Eris)? The entire thing was stirred ... because of vast heaping's ...

One has to be cautious about organizing words as they can turn out badly in some Eire say ... Celtic Kinks?
 
GordW said:
Except the Bible as we use the term did NOT exist when John of Patmos wrote down his vision. SO it can't refer to something that does not exist.
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:ROFLMAO:Your Grasping at straws here GordW ---but I understand why you think as you do ----

what God told them to write was written down GordW ---so the 3 warnings of not adding etc to his word existed it was there on paper ---it wasn't put into a Book ---Bible ---YET --- but the words were written and in play ----the scrolls were collected and put into a Book called the Bible ---

AI
The primary Latin word for "book" is liber (plural: librī), which is also the root for "library". It typically refers to a book, volume, or section of a larger work.
 
Would the person living under thatch declare the other naked with exception of the last straw was all a humble power required to go into hiding? Seems like a man-hour pile to me ... often composed, compiled and constructed as you go because of all that we didn't know initially ... thus heaps!

Tis an ode process ... creative writ ... no end to the potential given the raw material as substantial! It is something to see if you can get clear ...
 
unsafe said:
Isaiah 40:8
Berean Standard Bible
The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever.”

So what God Inspired in His Holy Scriptures -----stands forever ---so I would say God has said everything to His chosen that He wanted to and therefore would have nothing more to say ---He gave us His Word to follow till His Plan fully plays out ----which is still on going ---
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You have just inadvertently argued for there being only one testament - the Hebrew scriptures.
 
So God concealed Jesus, who is God, in the original movie? Only to reveal Jesus in the sequel?

I'll give him this: the New Testament is one of the few sequels that was more popular than the first movie. The Quran is doing very well for a third installment.
 
NO. Look how twisted the religion got, and how far from Jesus' original Kingdom gospel things got in 300 years let alone millennia
 
GordW said:
No, that is a faulty theology of Scripture.
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Who says ------you -------the coming of Jesus was prophecy in the Old Testament ---He was not here in the Flesh ----He was talked about coming in the future --so Jesus was Hidden in Prophecy the Old Testament ---------He was Revealed Physically in the New Testament

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-in-the OldTestament.html#:~:
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Jesus Himself confirmed the fact that He is in the Old Testament. In John 5:46 He explained to some religious leaders who had challenged Him that the Old Testament was talking about Him: “If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.” According to Jesus, God’s work with man since time began all pointed to Him

By some counts, more than 300 Old Testament prophecies point to Jesus Christ and were fulfilled by Him in His life on earth.
These include prophecies about His unique birth (Isaiah 7:14), His earthly ministry (Isaiah 61:1), and even the way He would die (Psalm 22).

AI AGREES

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Yes, Jesus is considered "hidden" throughout the Old Testament
, appearing through direct prophecies, symbolic types, and pre-incarnate appearances known as Christophanies (e.g., the "Angel of the LORD"). He is revealed through patterns such as Joseph’s life, the sacrificial lamb, and specific promises, with Jesus himself stating that the scriptures (Moses and the prophets) testified of him.
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Key Ways Jesus is Hidden in the Old Testament:
  • Prophecies: Isaiah 53 famously describes the suffering savior, while Deuteronomy 18:15 foretells a prophet like Moses.
  • Christophanies (Pre-incarnate appearances): The "Angel of the LORD" who encountered Hagar (Gen 16), Abraham, and Moses at the burning bush is often interpreted as a temporary appearance of Christ.
  • Types and Shadows: Historical figures and events foreshadowed his ministry, such as Joseph being sold for silver, Isaac carrying the wood for his sacrifice, and the Passover lamb.
 

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May I please inject some logic into this?

At the time that Isaiah wrote the quote that unsafe references, the single "scripture"/word of god referenced is the Torah.
 
Look, in all seriousness, you will never change her mind. Her entire self-worth is wrapped up in this. She's all in.

The most you can hope is to prevent more unsafes. Difficult to do when she already has an army of 400.

I appreciate some of you taking the time to be serious and providing sound theological reasons unsafe is beyond wrong. I think the best approach is highlighting the parts that are completely whacked and make zero sense. In that endeavour, I'm spoiled for choice.
 
The question was asked who was God in the first place (initially, or indigenously) and that remains a curiosity until one backs off to look into what went forward ... then one sees the silly mule ... a self-carrying failure? No rose a charon ... for the activity of life is no rose garden or even an orderly forest glen (gump). It breaks up and rearranges ... to as to hide the genome ... individuals will claim: "I Gnome" even when they didn't know-M!

It is all the way you hold your mouth then charting and plotting the myth ... place it and the horn will blow that's tout! There is this buzz all through the cosmos --- the Bell Buoys! An extract from that huge horn they built ...

The material one has to gather is nonsense to most! recall they were told knowledge is evil ... so that stemmy creature had to go ... culture by the gardener ... seasonal ups and downs --- Eccles?
 
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The Old Testament is Jesus concealed --------the New Testament is Jesus Revealed
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If one happens to believe that the Bible is a single book with 1089 chapters, perhaps dictated by God, this makes perfect sense. Friend unsafe is not the only evangelical/ conservative Christian we have had here expressing this point of view. Brother Jae comes to mind but there have been a few others.

We can all argue until the cows come home that the Bible is a human construction, but it won't budge any of them a bit. This is their faith.
 
paradox3 said:
If one happens to believe that the Bible is a single book with 1089 chapters, perhaps dictated by God, this makes perfect sense. Friend unsafe is not the only evangelical/ conservative Christian we have had here expressing this point of view. Brother Jae comes to mind but there have been a few others.

We can all argue until the cows come home that the Bible is a human construction, but it won't budge any of them a bit. This is their faith.
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Hard tack as they say in NFLD ... but that's the way they're bred ... need some fish and juice, salty assists ... the salt of the earth those dragged ashore ... always some females working at resuscitation ... "git up Joe, time to go catch another one ..." Even if it is only a chuckle or a giggle ... there be wrinkles in the fabric ... wakes? When looking back ... pass tens ... eleven ... as 11 ... swell'n ... hubris? The night storm approaches ... profanity erupts ...

A populace misses the point because of shame and humiliation of hearing it ... immersion of another sol in life as it is imperfect?

Sometimes reduced to mucosae ... mighty con Draia ... drained ... yet, there in the mess! A squeal ... laisse fare ... expect intentional interference ... guess?
 
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paradox3 said:
We can all argue until the cows come home that the Bible is a human construction, but it won't budge any of them a bit. This is their faith.
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And I not posting to change anyone's mind who believes different than me ---I am here to post what I believe and stand up for what I believe ----and you all should be doing the same Stand committed on your ground --your not hurting me or what I believe ----- :angel:
 
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