And they're off...the election thread
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Pontifex Geronimo 13
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Oh, oh!
looks like Harper govt is turning in a $1.9 Billion surplus for the year.
Who has their ducks in a row?????
Harper, Harper,
He's our man,
If he can't do it
No one can.....
Goooooooooo Harper!!!!!
Yay!!!!!
Now everyone sing it!!!!!
looks like Harper govt is turning in a $1.9 Billion surplus for the year.
Who has their ducks in a row?????
Harper, Harper,
He's our man,
If he can't do it
No one can.....
Goooooooooo Harper!!!!!
Yay!!!!!
Now everyone sing it!!!!!
Pontifex Geronimo 13
#walkaway
Zoolander plans to turn in annual $10 billion deficits per year.
Mulcair will be triple that or worse, plus put Alberta on the skids.
Mulcair will be triple that or worse, plus put Alberta on the skids.
BetteTheRed
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Deficits/surpluses in a government mean rather different things, economically, than in a household.
Coupled with interest rates and unemployment rates, they are a tool of economic manipulation, which is necessary in a capitalist economy.
Coupled with interest rates and unemployment rates, they are a tool of economic manipulation, which is necessary in a capitalist economy.
GordW
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THe big question is "AT what cost?"
THoug I tend to agree...go Harper....go far far far away
Pontifex Geronimo 13
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Actually, I was trying to be funny. If you want a 1.9B surplus - you print enough money to cover your debts plus $1.9 extra. It doesn't even need be cash, it can be electronic. It is how we get inflation.
I know nobody here is voting Harper, but this kind of news can change the minds of millions of voters. The Zoolander questionnaire is also genius.
I know nobody here is voting Harper, but this kind of news can change the minds of millions of voters. The Zoolander questionnaire is also genius.
I find it odd that with the all the recession talk - with a month to go in the (long) campaign - surprise! We have a surplus!
Graeme Decarie
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Pierre Trudeau, like his son, was born rich. And, in the tradition of rich, francophone families of Quebec, both went to very expensive - and very good - private schools, then to university. The young Pierre was a bit of a jerk and, like almost all the wealthy in Canada, both French and English, a hateful anti-Semite.
But Pierre had an active mind, did more schooling, had an intellectual curiosity, travelled widely, studied and learned, and became the man we knew as P.M.
Justin has shown no such qualities. He did the rich kid bit of schooling up to the minimum requirement for a rich kid. He has shown no intellectual interest in anything, no intellectual curiosity.
Interestingly, his major partner was a kid much like him. He's the son of Romeo Leblanc who was in Trudeau's cabinet, then a senator, then governor-general. I knew Romeo very well. I liked him very much. I never met anyone who didn't like Romeo. The son, like Justin, got expensive and excellent private schooling. But, like Justin, he has shown no intellectual curiosity. Like Justin, he's in politics because his daddy was. His name is connected with no line of thinking. He's in it, I suspect, because parliament is his childhood home.
But Pierre had an active mind, did more schooling, had an intellectual curiosity, travelled widely, studied and learned, and became the man we knew as P.M.
Justin has shown no such qualities. He did the rich kid bit of schooling up to the minimum requirement for a rich kid. He has shown no intellectual interest in anything, no intellectual curiosity.
Interestingly, his major partner was a kid much like him. He's the son of Romeo Leblanc who was in Trudeau's cabinet, then a senator, then governor-general. I knew Romeo very well. I liked him very much. I never met anyone who didn't like Romeo. The son, like Justin, got expensive and excellent private schooling. But, like Justin, he has shown no intellectual curiosity. Like Justin, he's in politics because his daddy was. His name is connected with no line of thinking. He's in it, I suspect, because parliament is his childhood home.
Seeler
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At what cost? perhaps by holding back budgeted money from those who need it most - like the many, many unemployed people who are unable, under Harper's rules, to collect employment insurance that they paid into. Or supporting health care. Or the many other services that the government has failed to provide for adequately. Sure - budgets can be balanced if you are careful not to spend. But at what cost?
As I said in another string ... some 100,000 Old Age Pensioners lost there supplements in June and along with that the drug plans ... if you calculate that savings ... what does it add up to stoop id-aum?
revjohn
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Congratulations to the Government of Canada for being completely surprised at pulling off a surplus. Maybe budgets do balance themselves after all.
All things considered I would rather be surprised by "found" money (Is it really found if it simply reflects a disinterest in spending what that money was set apart for?). Then be resigned to taking on more and more debt.
At any rate all this surplus manages to do is shave 1.9 billion off of the current Prime Minister's 182.3 billion dollars in deficits to date. It's like Scotiabank says, we're richer than we think.
All things considered I would rather be surprised by "found" money (Is it really found if it simply reflects a disinterest in spending what that money was set apart for?). Then be resigned to taking on more and more debt.
At any rate all this surplus manages to do is shave 1.9 billion off of the current Prime Minister's 182.3 billion dollars in deficits to date. It's like Scotiabank says, we're richer than we think.
Graeme Decarie
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The world discovered, 80 years ago and after great pain, that running a surplus is a very bad idea during a recession. I makes things worse. It doesn't make it worse for the rich, of course. They have always thrived in recessions and even depressions. For a sample of this "outrageous" opinion, get a copy of 'Royal Commission Report on Price spreads and Mass Buying". I can't remember the year, but it's about 1935.
Mendalla
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So the riding to the East of mine (the one where I work as opposed to the one where I live and vote) has an independent running. Haven't checked him out yet, but I kind of envy them. Voting for an indie is kind of appealing since it's clearly a vote for a person, not a party, and arguably even a vote against the whole party system (which is certainly something he is playing up on his signs). In my dream world. they would all be independents but I know it can never happen. Even if we abolished the party system, they would still coalesce into informal parties around shared interests and positions.
As it is, independents generally do poorly in our system save for some who are independent by virtue of having been dumped by their party and who still retain some of that party's base in their riding. Those ones may actually win a seat here and there. The rest are, at best, spoilers with little chance of getting a seat themselves.
Anyone ever voted for an indie? Is it pointless or a way to vote for positions or ideas that aren't coming out from parties?
As it is, independents generally do poorly in our system save for some who are independent by virtue of having been dumped by their party and who still retain some of that party's base in their riding. Those ones may actually win a seat here and there. The rest are, at best, spoilers with little chance of getting a seat themselves.
Anyone ever voted for an indie? Is it pointless or a way to vote for positions or ideas that aren't coming out from parties?
revjohn
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I was in London last evening supporting a friend who was presenting research at Huron College. Brown hair, bushy tail, some of you would probably remember him.
At any rate it was late when I was heading home and crossed paths with a vehicle sporting many after market alterations, most of which struck me as not contributing to road worthiness. Because I was driving and had to make decisions about where my vehicle should be headed I did not get to take in careful detail about the messaging.
There was a name. Ali somebody or other. There was a rebuke about Canada past and I'm pretty certain it was topped by a Lebanese Flag. Ring any bells?
At any rate it was late when I was heading home and crossed paths with a vehicle sporting many after market alterations, most of which struck me as not contributing to road worthiness. Because I was driving and had to make decisions about where my vehicle should be headed I did not get to take in careful detail about the messaging.
There was a name. Ali somebody or other. There was a rebuke about Canada past and I'm pretty certain it was topped by a Lebanese Flag. Ring any bells?