Churchianity (Religion ) and True Christianity What Is The Difference ?

[revjohn]

Hi John--I don't think I ever seen you post so many .

So many what?

You can believe what ever you want John .

Right now I believe that the book is out as to the reliability of Josephus as a witness to the resurrection. At best he records that certain people believed in it.

[FONT=Open Sans, sans-serif]Josephus is at best a witness to the idea of resurrection and not the resurrection itself.[/FONT]

 

[chansen]

Then again, since as far as any one knows, Josephus died a Jew, he either did not, or it didn't 'take', as with Paul.

And that's the take-home point. Josephus died a Jew.

Would a Jew write what amounts to an infomercial for Christianity? Would a Jew make passing reference to "He was the Christ?" And devote only one paragraph to it? None of this adds up. We know that Christian monasteries controlled all the copies of Antiquities. There are pieces to that one paragraph that a Jew would not write, and it brings the authenticity into question.

 

[Luce NDs]

And that's the take-home point. Josephus died a Jew.

Would a Jew write what amounts to an infomercial for Christianity? Would a Jew make passing reference to "He was the Christ?" And devote only one paragraph to it? None of this adds up. We know that Christian monasteries controlled all the copies of Antiquities. There are pieces to that one paragraph that a Jew would not write, and it brings the authenticity into question.

Thus de Light is found in quantum pieces ... Levite's platter for the common John's head as it fell to the desires of the powers to stop wee people from pre-ponderous thoughts before being Heh-Jacked? Thus the ups and downs spoke of in de Moors ...

 

[airclean33]

Hi John --You posted--
airclean33 said:
You can believe what ever you want John .


Right now I believe that the book is out as to the reliability of Josephus as a witness to the resurrection. At best he records that certain people believed in it.

Airclean-- Then in the case of your last line He Josephus did say, certain people believed in Christ being raised.I agree.

 

[Waterfall]

If one is looking for evidence, maybe just turn to God Himself. He seems to understand our need for it and be in agreement with that need in order to provide a truth to what we believe.
We were told the Messiah would come and what to expect even before He came. Grace/love can become evident in our lives. We are also told of the signs to expect when Christ returns.

 

[airclean33]

Hi John --Your Post--
In which case RevJohn . Someone else, must have believed it to be true". As they wrote it.
While true there is a difference between my writing what I believe and me putting the words into the mouth of another.

-John Post--
So the issue is whether or not all of material in the Testimonium Flavianum is Josephus or someone else. If it is Josephus then we have extra-biblical evidence that what is recorded in the Bible regarding the death and resurrection of Jesus was widely known and thought to be of some import beyond the bounds of Christianity. If it was not Josephus who wrote that portion of the Testimonium Flavianum then all we have is somebody, who thought it was important added it later but Josephus didn't think it was important enough to mention.

It is rather an important discussion because if we claim that Josephus said this and it turns out Josephus didn't we have been speaking falsely

Airclean--I would agree with you last line John . Only ad if you say it is wrong with no proof . That also is false.To say Josephus said Jesus was the Christ is wrong. I believe Josephus was a Jew was he not? Jews in those days wrote with no periods. Some one else just put it in the wrong spot. I went back to see what Josephus letter had said .

 

[airclean33]

If one is looking for evidence, maybe just turn to God Himself. He seems to understand our need for it and be in agreement with that need in order to provide a truth to what we believe.
We were told the Messiah would come and what to expect even before He came. Grace/love can become evident in our lives. We are also told of the signs to expect when Christ returns.

I believe you right Waterfall. Where you have said to look, is one of the best places to look.

 

[Luce NDs]

Is God is the great unknown ... a sort of dark thing we harbor within that comes up in rants and rave reviews by people that watch you when you loose all iotas of common sense and say you know all ... everything ... and then follow up with the statement that God is everything to yah but you love delight?

The eternal paradox how a bit of dark physical matter can absorb the light .. and yet reflect a bit on the side! There are those that cannot consider two beams at once (de deuce) light and darkness ... thus very little grey matter?

As one beyond your understanding looking in from the kohl of a flood of words ... such things A' Muse me ... how about thy's elf standing out there in the light (unseen)*?

* Consider the sunlight passing overhead on a dark winter's night ... can you see it without the reflective body of de Moon?​

Imagine trying to prove that light is physical ... or if it is ethereal ... sort of an invisible menace to those determined not to see according to biblical theory ... those buried under the tree of logic that rises from the unknown past! If you accept both extremes o love and knowledge will half be lost in order to float athe aught ... bubble, or caption of humus (phonetic hoo-mused about ethers)? Perhaps it was an extreme stranger projecting into a positively denied space ... the domain of thought and wisdom?

Get outa Eire ... thus outlanders!