Churchianity (Religion ) and True Christianity What Is The Difference ?

[Luce NDs]

Is broad-based a bit whoa man-ish and thus despised by industrial man? All work and not thought for word plae ... make for a dull boy! No shine to that one ...

 

[airclean33]

Hi Luce NDs---Here is what Unsafe asked.
Churchianity (Religion ) and True Christianity What Is The Difference ?
I am not sure you know the answer , But I would not mind seeing you answer it.airclean33

 

[Luce NDs]

There is a virtue in the answering of something that some people are rigid about ... thus the passing of hard chitz ...

 

[airclean33]

There is a virtue in the answering of something that some people are rigid about ... thus the passing of hard chitz ...

I am not sure your meaning here. Do you think you can be hurt here for what you believe . If that were the case I would have lost my head . Long ago.

 

[Luce NDs]

I am not sure your meaning here. Do you think you can be hurt here for what you believe . If that were the case I would have lost my head . Long ago.

Head loss is common in a full belief in Love and Passion without knowledge!

 

[airclean33]

Head loss is common in a full belief in Love and Passion without knowledge!

Thank you Luce.

 

[Luce NDs]

Thank you Luce.

Ehyore welcome! Yet there still is that remaining force of some one believing they know the eternal (infinite) realm when such is beyond us until we become the spirit of loving thought and don't tell the learners they are going to hell as if that travail is a weapon ... in de NDs a delight as one oases through the excessive passion stage ... a sort of a tier (Tyre) as a connection to sky land? Almost like metaphorical poetics ... just so you could counter the lies told up here above the darker area of de Shadow in de sans ... without a Shadow of doubt ... if out there you know of the inside paradox ... derived from parodies? The paradise of a blown mind ... or the Boyd in bleu state?

 

[Jon71]

A preacher I had would say that Christianity is not a religion, it is a person Jesus Christ.

 

[Luce NDs]

Hi Luce NDs---Here is what Unsafe asked.
Churchianity (Religion ) and True Christianity What Is The Difference ?
I am not sure you know the answer , But I would not mind seeing you answer it.airclean33

With some give and take to allow equity for others made different by alien forces ...

The things we don't know are eternal ... but yet we don't even know that!

 

[Luce NDs]

A preacher I had would say that Christianity is not a religion, it is a person Jesus Christ.

Will hominoids characterize everything even the power of light in a dark background as a subtle icon to amuse God's scattered wisdom ... it appears out there as a phenomenon ... or manifestation? Such things puzzle those not into philology ...

 

[revjohn]

If Churchianity (a clearly invented term) is to be considered equal to Religion and True Christianity (also a clearly invented term) is different from Religion I suspect that the individual (s) inventing the terms are fairly illiterate.

Words have meanings. Commonly accepted meanings or, they have no meaning whatsoever. We are free, as individuals, to attempt to assign new or foreign meanings to old words that doesn't mean that we are actually engaged in communicating.

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreedupon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs andpractices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter ofethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.

Note the deliberate use of Christian in definition 2.

1. the Christian religion, including the Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox churches.
2. Christian beliefs or practices; Christian quality or character:
Christianity mixed with pagan elements; the Christianity of Augustine's thought.
3. a particular Christian religious system:
She followed fundamentalist Christianity.
4. the state of being a Christian.
5. Christendom.
6. conformity to the Christian religion or to its beliefs or practices.

Note the multiple deliberate uses of religion in pretty much every definition.

Like it or not Christianity is a religion. All modern attempts to differentiate are deliberate attempts to dumb the concept down and spectacularly unhelpful in making things clear.

So taking that as given until somebody can actually demonstrate why Christianity is not properly identified as a religion I suspect the real issue is between True and Untrue expressions of the Christian religion.

It would be great if there was some objective criteria in place to distinguish between the True and the Untrue. Sadly, if such criteria does exist it is buried beneath centuries of opinion.

Is Roman Catholicism True Christianity or Untrue?
Is Eastern Orthodoxy True Christianity or Untrue?
Is Protestant Christianity True Christianity or Untrue? Is it equally true in every expression or not?

Depending on where one locates themselves the answers to each of those questions will vary greatly. Most answers will be variations of my particular expression of faith is true Christianity and all others are deficient.

What is interesting is that every expression of Christianity, construct rules and regulations which are used to determine what is true and what is untrue. Making each expression a form of religion.

 

[airclean33]

Head loss is common in a full belief in Love and Passion without knowledge!

--Knowledge is what humankind took. Obedience is what They payed for it. GOD Today, teaches us that through the Holy Spirit Obedience.

 

[airclean33]

If Churchianity (a clearly invented term) is to be considered equal to Religion and True Christianity (also a clearly invented term) is different from Religion I suspect that the individual (s) inventing the terms are fairly illiterate.

Words have meanings. Commonly accepted meanings or, they have no meaning whatsoever. We are free, as individuals, to attempt to assign new or foreign meanings to old words that doesn't mean that we are actually engaged in communicating.



Note the deliberate use of Christian in definition 2.




Note the multiple deliberate uses of religion in pretty much every definition.

Like it or not Christianity is a religion. All modern attempts to differentiate are deliberate attempts to dumb the concept down and spectacularly unhelpful in making things clear.

So taking that as given until somebody can actually demonstrate why Christianity is not properly identified as a religion I suspect the real issue is between True and Untrue expressions of the Christian religion.

It would be great if there was some objective criteria in place to distinguish between the True and the Untrue. Sadly, if such criteria does exist it is buried beneath centuries of opinion.

Is Roman Catholicism True Christianity or Untrue?
Is Eastern Orthodoxy True Christianity or Untrue?
Is Protestant Christianity True Christianity or Untrue? Is it equally true in every expression or not?

Depending on where one locates themselves the answers to each of those questions will vary greatly. Most answers will be variations of my particular expression of faith is true Christianity and all others are deficient.

What is interesting is that every expression of Christianity, construct rules and regulations which are used to determine what is true and what is untrue. Making each expression a form of religion.

--#-71--- To me John this is Christ Church . He has not changed.We who are saved through Christ all are of His priesthood.
1Pe 2:4 Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God's sight chosen and precious;

1Pe 2:5 and like living stones be yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

1Pe 2:6 For it stands in scripture: "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame."

1Pe 2:7 To you therefore who believe, he is precious, but for those who do not believe, "The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner,"

1Pe 2:8 and "A stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall"; for they stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

1Pe 2:10 Once you were no people but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy but now you have received mercy.

AIRCLEAN --If then we are saved and are a priesthood . Then each has the same power. Are we to sin??---
1Pe 2:11 Beloved, I beseech you as aliens and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh that wage war against your soul.

1Pe 2:12 Maintain good conduct among the Gentiles, so that in case they speak against you as wrongdoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.

 

[Luce NDs]

Then in Proverbs does it not say mankind does not like wisdom ... except perhaps as a contamination, or corruption of knowledge on what is essence of unknown ...

Conclusion of Logos we're phoqah 'doubt of existence ... an overpopulated market system?

 

[revjohn]

To me John this is Christ Church . He has not changed.We who are saved through Christ all are of His priesthood.

While I agree with you. I have no idea how it relates to my post.

 

[Luce NDs]

Thus the confusion the stagnated though has all the solutions without a moving clue ... Q-Loo? Thus the word goes and we missed it as mythical ... at least somewhat steamy in clarity!

 

[unsafe]

This is just my view -----

Christianity was a name given by the world to the Church which the Church adopted ------in my opinion -----Jesus never called Himself a Christian --Jesus called His Disciples ---brethren ---disciples---apostles ----servants ---followers ---the faithful ---the called and Saints -----

A true Christ--ian today should mean ----in my opinion one who is under Liberty ---Love and Walking in the Spirit Totally -----not Carnally ---don't need a Religion to do that just God's word which tells you all that you need to do to fulfill total Spirit surrender ----our job is to put it into practice ------


Galatians 5New King James Version (NKJV)


Christian Liberty
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free,[a]and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.4 You have become estranged from Christ, you whoattempt tobe justified by law; you have fallen from grace.5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.


Love Fulfills the Law
7 You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?8 This persuasion does notcomefrom Him who calls you.9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump.10 I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is.
11 And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased.12 I could wish that those who trouble you would even cut themselves off!
13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do notuseliberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word,evenin this:“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”[b]15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!


Walking in the Spirit
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,21 envy, murders,[d]drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also toldyouin time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.24 And thosewho areChrist’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Religion in my view ----is conceited ---my Religion is better than yours ----it provokes division ----and it envies ---

 

[BetteTheRed]

So, are you arguing that Christians should not organize themselves into congregations, but fly solo? I don't understand this resistance to categorizing one's beliefs as "religious".

What if someone claims merely, "my religion is different than yours"?

When I look at my actual physical neighbour, who has no religion as far as I know, unless it's power boats and playing in his pool, I conclude that what he does for himself spiritually would not work for me, but it apparently works for him.

Seems to me that by indulging in this "churchianity versus true christianity" you're setting up the same duality - my way is better than your way - that you reject.

 

[blackbelt1961]

So, are you arguing that Christians should not organize themselves into congregations, but fly solo? I don't understand this resistance to categorizing one's beliefs as "religious".

What if someone claims merely, "my religion is different than yours"?

When I look at my actual physical neighbour, who has no religion as far as I know, unless it's power boats and playing in his pool, I conclude that what he does for himself spiritually would not work for me, but it apparently works for him.

Seems to me that by indulging in this "churchianity versus true christianity" you're setting up the same duality - my way is better than your way - that you reject.

Do married couples have a religion between each other or are they in a relationship?

 

[BetteTheRed]

Do married couples have a religion between each other or are they in a relationship?

Do Muslims have a religion, or is their religion all about their individual submission to God? Every religion/institution has individual members with personal spiritual relationships.