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Kicking off 2025, we have a couple stories on the role that asteroids might/maybe/could have played in kickstarting life on Earth.

First up, we have PBS Eons with the story of how scientists think early asteroid impacts could have helped get life started. They start with the old Miller experiment, which showed that basic amino acids could have been created by lightning in the early atmosphere. The problem? We no longer think that the "early atmosphere" they simulated for the experiment is actually what the atmosphere was like. But asteroid impacts, which happened fairly often in the very early history of the Earth, might have played a role in creating an environment where it could work.


And in that video, there is some discussion of the findings of the Osiris-Rex mission to the asteroid Bennu, which has now been confirmed to have found many chemicals needed for life on that asteroid. Here's a story from CBC that covers that discovery in more detail.


When you add in the impact that the K-Pg asteroid had on the evolution of life, ending (or helping end) the era of the non-avian dinosaurs and opening an opportunity for their bird relatives and mammals to become dominant, it becomes clear that space impacts have had a major impact on making this planet habitable and on the evolution of life.

As in the past, I mean this to be a thread to celebrate and learn from science and scientists. I don't want to engage in religious or political debate and discussion here. Creationist and other religious discussion can go in R&F, please and thank you. Discussions about the ethics and politics of science can go in other threads.
 
Moving from one disaster to another, the discovery of a large number of well-preserved dinosaur remains in a region of China can apparently be attributed to a (or perhaps several) volcanic eruptions that buried and preserved the dinosaurs. There are analogies drawn to the renowned 70CE eruption of Vesuvius that preserved the Roman towns of Pompeii and Herculaneum. However, the details of each eruption are quite different even if the high-level principle is similar.

 
Archaic substance may be substantial although eliminate and denied after being consumed ... turned into fecundity and foul gases like methane ...

In the coal mines it was sometimes referred to as damp black and explosive ... sufficient to take your breath away ...
 
There was chatter on the news recently about an asteroid that actually has a decent chance of hitting the Earth ... in 2032. Specifically, asteroid 2024 YR4 has a 1 in 63 chance of impact based on current knowledge. Scientists are trying to pin down its orbit more accurately, which could refine or even reduce that probability. The problem, as I understand it, is that we haven't found any past sightings of it that would help and the next pass isn't coming until 2028, which would give us only 4 years to respond if, indeed, the risk remains that high or gets worse.

Sizewise, they are estimating it would be comparable to the Tunguska Event in 1908, which caused massive damage to a mercifully lightly inhabited region of Siberia. But if it hit an inhabited area, the devastation would be horrific. Like a high-end nuke without the radiation, basically, since they estimate the power of a direct hit on Earth at 8 megatons.

Gizmodo, a good science and technology site, has a good piece on it and on asteroid risks in general.


How might we respond? Most likely try to hit it with some kind of impactor to change its orbit enough to reduce the odds to an acceptable level. This was tested once in the 2022 DART mission but that was a fairly small object that was deflected. This one would require something bigger hitting at a higher speed. Hopefully, the imminent threat would get NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, and even the Chinese to cooperate on a mission.
 
Imagine unknown stones out there ... more to log and report on as observed ... some deny there is any danger beyond us ... we being the prior problem in the heavens ... folly? So it was wrote ...
 
There's a bunch like this dandy lyres (Lyons) we fell into it for the experience ... a pitch? And after the lion sleeps ... you are what you eat or the counter ... they become ewe? Fuzzy ...
 
@ Delightful life ... Have you ever read any articles on reason and how it can be absent as if abstracted or goes down by sublimation?

Some say you need some reason to get into it and some reason to get out if none of this there maybe no reason atoll ... explaining those missing reasonable process ... in transactional view the process may be seized ... as concrete and thus we cannot expect movements --- Sitting Canon (or Bull). BS???

Expect wormy implications ...
 
Sabine Hossenfelder this time has a shocker

She managed to get a paper published in Nature

She got a response
Which inspired her vid response

 
I love this video. Some physics seems to be going the same path as religions, inventing explanations to explain discrepancies or patterns when data is lacking.
 
I love this video. Some physics seems to be going the same path as religions, inventing explanations to explain discrepancies or patterns when data is lacking.

In the world of Mort anything can be corrupted and passed off as carrion ... the stinking truth of life attracts ... scavengers ... beyond that? Well one has to back off to the rear of the stage ... the butte end ... the best of the dregs ... remember if you take the word as ideal ... there may be some roots tuit ... cannot be observed on the face of the thing ... edifice? These standout as something to skirt ... kilt? Life as all there is is hopeless ... chase the essence ... follow the odor ... sacred passage!
 
I love this video. Some physics seems to be going the same path as religions, inventing explanations to explain discrepancies or patterns when data is lacking.
The difference being that if they can't be tested, they get replaced once there is a theory that can be. Religion just keeps going regardless of testability and reproducibility. But, yeah, the extreme end of cosmology and even theoretical physics to some degree, is going off the rails at bit in that regard and some scientists are falling into the trap of assuming their theory must be right even if it hasn't been tested or if observations have contradicted it. Physicist and science influencer Sabine Hossenfelder is constantly on about it, one of the things she and I do agree on (we are less in agreement on some other issues).

That said, one of the worst culprits, string theory, does seem to have fallen off the radar of late, probably due to the lack of testable observations. There's still string theorists, but it is no longer edging closer to the mainstream like it was at one time.
 
Physicist and science influencer Sabine Hossenfelder is constantly on about it, one of the things she and I do agree on (we are less in agreement on some other issues).
LOL, somehow missed that it was a Sabine video that kicked this off.
 
There was chatter on the news recently about an asteroid that actually has a decent chance of hitting the Earth ... in 2032. Specifically, asteroid 2024 YR4 has a 1 in 63 chance of impact based on current knowledge. Scientists are trying to pin down its orbit more accurately, which could refine or even reduce that probability. The problem, as I understand it, is that we haven't found any past sightings of it that would help and the next pass isn't coming until 2028, which would give us only 4 years to respond if, indeed, the risk remains that high or gets worse.

Sizewise, they are estimating it would be comparable to the Tunguska Event in 1908, which caused massive damage to a mercifully lightly inhabited region of Siberia. But if it hit an inhabited area, the devastation would be horrific. Like a high-end nuke without the radiation, basically, since they estimate the power of a direct hit on Earth at 8 megatons.

Gizmodo, a good science and technology site, has a good piece on it and on asteroid risks in general.


How might we respond? Most likely try to hit it with some kind of impactor to change its orbit enough to reduce the odds to an acceptable level. This was tested once in the 2022 DART mission but that was a fairly small object that was deflected. This one would require something bigger hitting at a higher speed. Hopefully, the imminent threat would get NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, and even the Chinese to cooperate on a mission.
And the odds are now 1 in 38 after further observation. That's not a huge risk and could still change as we learn more. The size is also not 100% certain. It's based on brightness right now but the composition could skew that if it is something more or less reflective. Scientists have until April to study it so we could learn more. After that, it goes out of range until 2028.

 
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