Snoopy Considers 1 Corinthians

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It's hard to get a majority when many favour different possibilities eg. Apollo's, Barnabas, Prescilla, and more.
Paul writing Colossians and Thessalonians 2 is also in question...
Even the Catholic Church was undecided at the Council of Trent but did agree that Hebrews belonged in the canon without committing who the author was.
Paul himself also warned others that some letters were sent that claimed him as the author, which is why he signed all of his letters
I suppose Hebrews would make a good study someday.
Part of the beauty of Hebrews is that we'll never be totally sure who wrote it. It reminds us of the diversity within our sacred texts and the importance of approaching Scripture with humility.

Paul's warning about letters falsely attributed to him underscores the importance of discernment in our reading. It's a reminder of the early church's efforts to preserve the authenticity of apostolic teaching.

The Council of Trent's decision to include Hebrews in the canon highlights the great spiritual value of the text. It’s about the truth it conveys.

No doubt Snoopy will lead us in a study of Hebrews when the time is right :dog:
 
1 Corinthians 6

Paul rebukes the Corinthians for having lawsuits among themselves. He cautions that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God.

This includes: the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive and swindlers.

God raised the Lord and he will raise them, too, by his power.

Flee sexual immorality, says Paul. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Glorify God with your body!
 
Snoopy's Snappy Question: 1 Corinthians 6

Sexual immorality is not Paul's only concern. Why does he focus on it so much? :unsure:
 
1 Corinthians 6

Paul rebukes the Corinthians for having lawsuits among themselves. He cautions that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God.

This includes: the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive and swindlers.

God raised the Lord and he will raise them, too, by his power.

Flee sexual immorality, says Paul. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Glorify God with your body!
Paul's rebuke of the Corinthians for having lawsuits among themselves and his caution about the unrighteous not inheriting the kingdom of God are strong words. He addresses a variety of sins, emphasizing the need for believers to live in a way that honours God.

One key takeaway from this passage is the call to remember that our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit. This is a beautiful reminder that our lives are sacred.

We're all on a journey of growth, and none of us are perfect. Paul's words challenge us to glorify God in all we do
 
Nice post @Jae. But I still find myself wondering if you really mean these things and if your words are your own. Forgive me, but past history is hard to live down.

I have no quarrel with anything you have said recently but I wonder if we are seeing your authentic self. I hope so.
 
Snoopy's Snappy Question: 1 Corinthians 6

Sexual immorality is not Paul's only concern. Why does he focus on it so much? :unsure:
Paul's emphasis on sexual immorality can be understood in a few ways.

In Corinth, sexual immorality was rampant. The city was known for its temple prostitution, which made it a big issue for the early church. Paul wanted to ensure that believers set themselves apart by living according to God's standards.

Paul emphasizes that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit (6:19-20). Sexual immorality is seen as a direct violation of this sacred truth. By focusing on this issue, Paul underscores the importance of maintaining purity.

Sexual sins have major repercussions. They cause harm, leading to division. Paul’s teachings aim to protect the unity of the community.

Sexual immorality serves as a metaphor for spiritual unfaithfulness in Scripture. By addressing this issue, Paul calls the Corinthians to wholehearted devotion to God, free from any form of impurity.

Paul’s strong words come from his pastoral concern. His ultimate goal is growth in the faith
 
Nice post @Jae. But I still find myself wondering if you really mean these things and if your words are your own. Forgive me, but past history is hard to live down.

I have no quarrel with anything you have said recently but I wonder if we are seeing your authentic self. I hope so.
Thank you for your kind words, p3. I have hopefully grown over the course of the past four years or so that I've been a Presbyterian pastor here in Korea. I'm more open to listening to different points of view than I ever was before, and considering things for myself rather than just putting up what I've been directly fed by others. Working as a pastor has also taught me to think more pastorally than as a wannabe theologian and there is a real difference between the two. I take it those are the things that have you wondering. Thank you for these Bible studies. I thoroughly enjoy reading what everyone has to say and participating in them myself
 
I think Paul is asking the Corinthians to rethink their priorities. In this case he is concerned that they are prioritizing grievances and bodily pleasure over the calling of the Spirit. I appreciate Jae’s explanation of what was going on at the time.
 
We see in Chapter 6 ---Paul again using strong language to reel in this corinthian Church that has gone astray ----

The first Part of this Chapter deals with the law suits that are going on within the Church ---and Paul is using his Righteous anger to chastise how they are handling the conflicts ---they are going to the pagan courts instead of dealing with their Spiritual Issues within ----

Jesus gave believers the way they were to deal with conflict between Believers and they are not dealing with this problem rightly -----and Paul is letting them know in --stark terms ----

Verse 5
5 I say this to move you to shame. Can it be that there really is not one man among you who [in action is governed by piety and integrity and] is wise and competent enough to decide [the private grievances, disputes, and quarrels] between members of the brotherhood,

Jesus said in Matthew

Matthew 18:15-17

15 If your brother wrongs you, go and show him his fault, between you and him privately. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother.

16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two others, so that every word may be confirmed and upheld by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

17 If he pays no attention to them [refusing to listen and obey], tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a pagan and a tax collector.

So these folks should know better than to go to a Worldly Court to resolves Spiritual issues

Paul is telling them that they are capable of Judging their own Spiritual Matters and that they should know that in some way the Saints will judge the world ====this happens when Jesus comes back with all His Saints to defeat Satan and to Judge the unbelievers after the 7 year Tribulation

Jude 14-15​

14 It was of these people, moreover, that Enoch in the seventh [generation] from Adam prophesied when he said, Behold, the Lord comes with His myriads of holy ones (ten thousands of His saints)

15 To execute judgment upon all and to convict all the impious (unholy ones) of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed [in such an] ungodly [way], and of all the severe (abusive, jarring) things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

So Paul is says that by these lawsuits the Church is already defeated -----as they are the ones doing wrong ----and people who do wrong don't get to enjoy God's kingdom ===Sinners will not inherit the Kingdom of God ----Paul tells them that they were like that in the past but now they have been washed clean and made right with God in the name of Jesus and by God's Spirit -----

Paul is laying it on them -----pulling not punches with his words ----

He tells them that the body is not for sexual sin --it is for the Lord and our bodies now are part of Christ himself ---anyone who joins with the Lord is one with Him in Spirit --anyone committing sexual sin is sinning against your own body -----Your body is a Temple for the Holy Spirit that dwells in you that you got from God ----

We don't own our selves says Paul ---so we are to Honor God ---
 
Snoopy's Snappy Question: 1 Corinthians 6

Sexual immorality is not Paul's only concern. Why does he focus on it so much? :unsure:
At Corinth he has to. Towering above the massive ruins of Corinths is the huge hill on which lie the ruins of the cult of Aprhodite.
This cult featured cult prostitutes, which Paul's new male converts were patronizing. So sexually transmitted diseases were the major unique health issue at Corinth. We know this by studying the cult of Asklepius there,, which was the major medical remedy at the time. Part of the intriguiing healing ritual of this cult was to make a clay effigy of the body part needing healing. Many of these effigies are preserved in the museum among the ruins. 90% of them are phalluses, indicating how rampant sexually transmitted diseeases were.
 
Funny thing. I don't think we learned anything in Sunday school about temple prostitutes. Can't say I have ever heard anything in a sermon either. :)
 
Funny thing. I don't think we learned anything in Sunday school about temple prostitutes. Can't say I have ever heard anything in a sermon either. :)
Have in a sermon, but to no great depth. In sermons on 1 Corinthians, my Baptist pastor in Toronto has just commented that such was the case
 
interesting read on this

Bible Odyssey


Were there temple prostitutes in ancient Israel?

English Bibles typically translate the Hebrew words qadesh (m.) and qedesha (f.) as “temple prostitute.” These words appear frequently in the context of forbidden religious activity, as in Hos 4:14: “the men themselves go aside with whores and sacrifice with temple prostitutes” (NRSV) or 1Kgs 15:12 “[King Asa] expelled the male prostitutes from the land, and he removed all the idols that his ancestors had made” (JPS). Arguments in favor of this translation have typically relied on comparison with a Mesopotamian cognate term qadishtu. There is, however, one significant problem: among the hundreds of thousands of texts from ancient Iraq, scholars have not found any linking qadishtu to prostitution, temple or otherwise!

How, then, should we translate the Hebrew term?

The etymology of the Hebrew word is “consecrated one.” Of course, etymologies do not always determine meaning—English “awful” does not mean “full of awe.” Thus, we must also consider a word’s usage. The masculine form, qadesh, can easily be understood as a priest given its frequent association with temple practices (1Kgs 14:24; 1Kgs 15:12; 2Kgs 23:7). The feminine qedesha presents a thornier problem. The passage from Hosea, quoted above, is the only instance in which the term occurs alongside references to sexual activity. Since the book of Hosea frequently equates religious practices with metaphorical adultery, this is not a strong argument. Here, too, the qedesha likely refers to a consecrated person—in this instance, a woman priest whose ritual actions the prophet deems inappropriate.

There is one potential complication with the definition of qadesh/qedesha as priest. The word is applied to Tamar in Gen 38:21 with no connection to temples. After failing to recognize Tamar, Judah asks after the whereabouts of “the qedesha.” From context, it is clear that Judah seeks a single, sexually available woman—not a priest. Strange as it may seem, it is quite common for words relating to women’s professions to develop sexualized connotations over time. The English word “spinster” originally referred to the occupation of spinning wool but now designates older unmarried women. It is likely that the Hebrew word qedesha underwent a similar transformation from female priest (Hos 4:14) to single woman (Gen 38:21). The correct translation of the word, then, depends on context—but it certainly does not mean temple prostitute.

Why, then, does this translation persist? First, many of the standard translations (NRSV, NKJV, JPS) were produced in the 1980s, before scholars began to question the existence of temple prostitution. Even then, however, the only evidence for the practices came from the notoriously unreliable Greek historian Herodotus (Hist. 1.196). The ease with which scholars accepted Herodotus’s claims over primary evidence from the region itself fits into a broader pattern, in which white Europeans and Americans hypersexualize women of color, as Edward Said (among others) has argued. In addition, Jewish and Christian scholars have been happy to accept translations that uphold the morality of the Bible over and against other religions. When approaching the Bible, readers must be prepared to confront how racial, gendered, and religious prejudices have influenced its translation.
 
We see in Chapter 6 ---Paul again using strong language to reel in this corinthian Church that has gone astray ----

The first Part of this Chapter deals with the law suits that are going on within the Church ---and Paul is using his Righteous anger to chastise how they are handling the conflicts ---they are going to the pagan courts instead of dealing with their Spiritual Issues within ----

Jesus gave believers the way they were to deal with conflict between Believers and they are not dealing with this problem rightly -----and Paul is letting them know in --stark terms ----

Verse 5
5 I say this to move you to shame. Can it be that there really is not one man among you who [in action is governed by piety and integrity and] is wise and competent enough to decide [the private grievances, disputes, and quarrels] between members of the brotherhood,

Jesus said in Matthew

Matthew 18:15-17​

15 If your brother wrongs you, go and show him his fault, between you and him privately. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother.

16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two others, so that every word may be confirmed and upheld by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

17 If he pays no attention to them [refusing to listen and obey], tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a pagan and a tax collector.

So these folks should know better than to go to a Worldly Court to resolves Spiritual issues

Paul is telling them that they are capable of Judging their own Spiritual Matters and that they should know that in some way the Saints will judge the world ====this happens when Jesus comes back with all His Saints to defeat Satan and to Judge the unbelievers after the 7 year Tribulation

Jude 14-15​

14 It was of these people, moreover, that Enoch in the seventh [generation] from Adam prophesied when he said, Behold, the Lord comes with His myriads of holy ones (ten thousands of His saints)

15 To execute judgment upon all and to convict all the impious (unholy ones) of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed [in such an] ungodly [way], and of all the severe (abusive, jarring) things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

So Paul is says that by these lawsuits the Church is already defeated -----as they are the ones doing wrong ----and people who do wrong don't get to enjoy God's kingdom ===Sinners will not inherit the Kingdom of God ----Paul tells them that they were like that in the past but now they have been washed clean and made right with God in the name of Jesus and by God's Spirit -----

Paul is laying it on them -----pulling not punches with his words ----

He tells them that the body is not for sexual sin --it is for the Lord and our bodies now are part of Christ himself ---anyone who joins with the Lord is one with Him in Spirit --anyone committing sexual sin is sinning against your own body -----Your body is a Temple for the Holy Spirit that dwells in you that you got from God ----

We don't own our selves says Paul ---so we are to Honor God ---
Paul's addressing a church that's lost its way, giving in to worldly conflicts. He doesn't hold back. He tells them off, urging them to recognize the divine wisdom given to them. This is a call to embody the piety that should govern our actions as Christians.

Jesus' teaching in Matthew 18:15-17 about resolving conflicts is a process grounded in love, aimed at healing.

When we take our disputes outside the church, we deny the power of the Spirit within us. We forget that we're called to be peacemakers.

Paul reminds us that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit. This is a reminder of our collective identity in Christ. We belong to the Lord, and our actions must reflect that truth
 
At Corinth he has to. Towering above the massive ruins of Corinths is the huge hill on which lie the ruins of the cult of Aprhodite.
This cult featured cult prostitutes, which Paul's new male converts were patronizing. So sexually transmitted diseases were the major unique health issue at Corinth. We know this by studying the cult of Asklepius there,, which was the major medical remedy at the time. Part of the intriguiing healing ritual of this cult was to make a clay effigy of the body part needing healing. Many of these effigies are preserved in the museum among the ruins. 90% of them are phalluses, indicating how rampant sexually transmitted diseeases were.
Corinth was a city full of practices that ran counter to the teachings of Christ. The presence of cult prostitutes and the resulting health issues were big challenges that Paul had to address.

Paul's message is a call to a higher way of living. He transformed people, urging the Corinthians to see themselves as temples of the Holy Spirit. His concern for their sexual conduct was about protecting their health.

Let’s remember the hope Paul offers. In calling out these issues, he’s calling them back to holiness. He’s reminding them God’s grace is always within reach
 
He tells them off,
Ya --he is certainly Chastising their Unrighteous Behaviour with harsh words ----and he is Rightly exercising his Righteous Judgment to bring the Church back to acting and behaving Rightly in accordance to God's will -----

So many Christians will say we are not to Judge ---but we are to rightly Judge a Brother or Sister in Christ when we see them going astray with wrong behaviour ---Jesus did it with the Pharisees many times --calling them vipers ----hypocrites ---acting whitewashed on the outside but being filthy on the inside --and Paul is certainly doing it with the Corinthian Church ----

We True Christians are Not to Judge the people of this world -----as they are acting rightly to their worldly standards of worldly living ---
 
Corinth had more slaves than any city in ancient Greece. In his book, "Greek Homosexuality," K. J. Dover argues that the Greek terms used in 1Cirinthian 6:9 refer to the regular rape of coerced slave call boys owned by their wealthy Greek masters.
 
Were there mostly gentiles in the Corinth church? Possibly not understanding the Jewish customs and history right away? Or the why of things?
 
Corinth had more slaves than any city in ancient Greece. In his book, "Greek Homosexuality," K. J. Dover argues that the Greek terms used in 1Cirinthian 6:9 refer to the regular rape of coerced slave call boys owned by their wealthy Greek masters.
I was actually wondering if Paul's references to homosexuality might concern non-consensual sex.
 
Ya --he is certainly Chastising their Unrighteous Behaviour with harsh words ----and he is Rightly exercising his Righteous Judgment to bring the Church back to acting and behaving Rightly in accordance to God's will -----

So many Christians will say we are not to Judge ---but we are to rightly Judge a Brother or Sister in Christ when we see them going astray with wrong behaviour ---Jesus did it with the Pharisees many times --calling them vipers ----hypocrites ---acting whitewashed on the outside but being filthy on the inside --and Paul is certainly doing it with the Corinthian Church ----

We True Christians are Not to Judge the people of this world -----as they are acting rightly to their worldly standards of worldly living ---
The verb "to judge" has different nuances.

Is Paul talking about Christian brothers and sisters holding each other accountable here?
 
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