What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Mendalla said:
assume that what we saw is what happened: A bullet grazed trumps ear.
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It is still a good idea to demand evidence of hidden plotting, and in its absence to default to simpler explanations premised upon fewer unseen entities. This is particularly the case when evidence of incompetence is already pervasive, as it is in the failed Trump assassination.

Things we can see in this particular case: Trump’s political opponents begrudged him Secret Service protection, and some of them had even introduced legislation to deprive him of it entirely. The Secret Service is presently headed by the Biden appointee Kimberly Cheatle and Trump’s protection detail was grievously understaffed. Trump has himself been subject to histrionic media attacks for years, and the target of numerous security incidents already.

At this point what I see is the actions of a system that hated the idea of spending resources on Trump’s protection, hoped that the worst would happen to him, and stupidly failed to see what a massive advantage it would be for Trump in the event an assassin actually took a shot at him and missed.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
Deep state. There are lots of Republicans on the left.
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You mean the left edge of center I assume. Even the Democrats in the Us are not really leftist. Nor is the Canadian Liberal party for themost part (it has moved a bit back to the left under Justin but was at best centrist under Martin and Chretien
 
If all were sated ... in Satan we would rest ... some text even say the diabolical one gets the left-over and remainders ... yet with vast avarice there will be nothing left ... id'll bust ... because of control freaks are insecure ... they must blame the alternate ... its an ego thing ... lack of comprehension about what's conspired that will work and what won't ...

There are mysterious powers that believe it'll all go round without social effort --- Machiavelli! Isn't that diabolical ... like worms and butterflies ... they evolve ... and word takes to Ares ... sometimes quietly at night ... dames ... or de mise? Just call the mass a bit non-intelligent ... some say ignore as they like ignorant's best!
 
The deep state does not exist. We just have public servants doing their best to serve the public for the most part. There are militaristic people deep in the military and external affairs in the US. They seem to be right leaning authoritarian.
 
The Liberals are off the spectrum, IMHO. They are for whatever will get them elected which is why they spent so much of the 20th century in power. Chretien, with Martin in Finance, was the picture of fiscal conservatism in a time when that drew votes. Martin similar, though with some social progressivism mixed in (e.g. the updated marriage act). Trudeau, for the most part, has followed tradition and flailed from policy to policy trying to figure out what will get him elected. I guess it all balances out to make them centrists who wobble a bit.

jimkenney12 said:
The deep state does not exist.
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This. It only exists if you see the civil service as your opponents, not as supporting infrastructure (which is what they should be). If the civil service is functioning as a "deep state" and actively thwarting the work of elected politicians, the there's a problem and spinning conspiracy theories isn't the solution. And the problem might just be with how the government is going about things. A stable, apolitical civil service partly exists to rein in the excesses of the politicians.
 
Thank you for the link. It confirms what I have come to believe. What hurts is that too many people have been sucked into believing about a different deep state.
 
Mendalla said:
The Liberals are off the spectrum, IMHO. They are for whatever will get them elected which is why they spent so much of the 20th century in power. Chretien, with Martin in Finance, was the picture of fiscal conservatism in a time when that drew votes. Martin similar, though with some social progressivism mixed in (e.g. the updated marriage act). Trudeau, for the most part, has followed tradition and flailed from policy to policy trying to figure out what will get him elected. I guess it all balances out to make them centrists who wobble a bit.


This. It only exists if you see the civil service as your opponents, not as supporting infrastructure (which is what they should be). If the civil service is functioning as a "deep state" and actively thwarting the work of elected politicians, the there's a problem and spinning conspiracy theories isn't the solution. And the problem might just be with how the government is going about things. A stable, apolitical civil service partly exists to rein in the excesses of the politicians.
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This sounds conservative and thus cannot alter ... thus deep rooted like holes in the ground of being ... tap roots? Here augurs and bores ... no gospel or virtue of movement ... all a spectra ... an image of illusion ... because few mount a query ... they just believe as dictated to ... Tous ... that's all there is TU it! Pas Tu Te ... blast?
 
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How will relations fare when a prosecutor is counter to a bullhorn felon that has no respect for his parts and puts them in places he doesn't know that could raise storms, demons and disturbances of the peace! Then if you favor anarchists ... it is straight ahead full auguring with the pigs in heaven ... all comprehension wiped out ... because it was emblazoned in time that the tree of wisdom was not desirable ...

Wasn't that slick, smooth and well greased? An itch to beat all itches ... thus creation is scratch! Scrape the slate clean ... waste not and the prodigal will stick with you even if you are ill disposed toe ide! Unguent?

That's the word ... folk often hate reading ...
 
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Obviously, I missed the excitement. Stephen re-surfaced, I assume?
 
Redbaron said:
A total of 3, actually.
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Imagine that the rising of St Even ... a dark force to contend with given what we've observed of his understanding ... he is stern! That follows the bow ... observe the greater vessel ... the wake came 4th ... as a wave ...
 
“Where love rules, there is no will to power, and where power predominates, love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other.”
― Carl Gustav Jung

That aught to be enough to baffle the extremes and build some Rockwall fences ... what dah yah say extremists? Consider the moving medium ... travelling words? Some of these things fly in inky fashion! Black angels ... maybe Navy shades ... boo's ...

Mortal intelligence is an aerie thing ... Nestorian? Borough Din? We just can't see it for the darker matter!
 
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