Laughing All the Way (Genesis 18:1-15; 21:1-7

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Redbaron

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This week's Hebrew Scripture Lectionary reading concerns the promise, and eventual birth, of Isaac. Laughter (part of the meaning of the name) seems to play a large role in this story. The first laughter, in ch. 18, is scornful, and Sarah actually denies laughing at all. In Ch. 21, laughter is open and joyous.

How large a part does laughter play in your daily life?
How do you discern between 'good' laughter and 'not-so-good' laughter? (e.g. between the laughing in ch. 21 and ch. 18)
Some Christian groups experience 'holy laughter.' Any thoughts about that?
 
Take it as a significant joust over what many folk cannot differentiate as they lose their mine trying to put the alternate down with a heap of hot Eire ...

Thus increased holes in nothing ... as humanity must appear from the spooky alternate side of reality! May explain why truth is so hard to dig up ...

Lyres??? As the youth would say to their parents: "everybody of significance is doing it!" Thus we are driven to go somewhere alien to figure ...OBI?

The evidence is stacked against finding hard evidence on essence of the cursed thing ... no source evident and obliviously no end as Sah Rae Giggled as mitochondrial device ... opioid receptor? People will even screw around with them with little knowledge of the long term consequences ...

The Sah once meant the head and Rah was dark beam emanating from that dark Ayad knight ... a drawing power that cannot be explained even to Samson then distraught over one of Eve's facets ... mental enigma? It cannot be answered on one way ... some wobble and wrinkle prerequisite ...

Eris 'n wa tares ... now I can claim I told you nothing believable if purely understood poorly! The nature of myth ... unfathomable initiations ... paradigm or indicium (scars)? Indigenous ... there it started ...

Some write it off ... filtre a franc device for Spun (English) muck? Older than you can imagine Arthurian mistakes ... Babylonian Matrix? Thus tabled ...
 
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Laughter Is the best way to face the vagaries of life.

Weird how many religious Jews and Christians tend to the severe side when laughter and enjoying life are parts of our faith stories. Jesus enjoyed partying with people on the margins.
 
Laughter Is the best way to face the vagaries of life.

Weird how many religious Jews and Christians tend to the severe side when laughter and enjoying life are parts of our faith stories. Jesus enjoyed partying with people on the margins.

How about vulgarises like rye virtue .... naked truth? When we leave ... it is suggested our cover is stripped away ... hide? The final observation ...
 
Interesting question to ask.

There is, suddenly, a whole bunch more joyous laughter in my life. The big guy is relaxed, funny and a bit of a tease, in a nice way. And I appear to be becoming, in spite of myself, a much happier person.

The other kind of laughter is often non-verbal, or confusing. Like making a really mean statement, and ending it with LOL.
 
Well Redbaron as you know Blasphemy Laws (which we still have in our secular society) are there to make sure there are certain aspects of our lives we never ever ever laugh at. Putting this into Woke, it is another part of Systemic Racism to maintain control over everything

When I think the healthy religions are those who have humour as a part of them

And reading that scripture, I can see those angels as being typical men when wondering at Sarah's laughter? Of course she would laugh. And then when questioned again, since she is a woman at that time, she denies it as she is dealing with a Man or something Immensely Powerful?

Anyhew. Those passages can be seen in more than that way as there is no tone really to the words. So we can put in a multiple of meanings or tone in there?

Me? I still imagine Sarah as a great laugher at the absurdity of her conceiving.

Also the trippy notion I noticed of a human being becoming a nation, which gives support to the notion that people like Abraham were really not people but rather metaphors for tribes?

Anyway, fun thread
 
Well Redbaron as you know Blasphemy Laws (which we still have in our secular society) are there to make sure there are certain aspects of our lives we never ever ever laugh at. Putting this into Woke, it is another part of Systemic Racism to maintain control over everything

When I think the healthy religions are those who have humour as a part of them

And reading that scripture, I can see those angels as being typical men when wondering at Sarah's laughter? Of course she would laugh. And then when questioned again, since she is a woman at that time, she denies it as she is dealing with a Man or something Immensely Powerful?

Anyhew. Those passages can be seen in more than that way as there is no tone really to the words. So we can put in a multiple of meanings or tone in there?

Me? I still imagine Sarah as a great laugher at the absurdity of her conceiving.

Also the trippy notion I noticed of a human being becoming a nation, which gives support to the notion that people like Abraham were really not people but rather metaphors for tribes?

Anyway, fun thread

Imagine DL conceiving ... especially if he is all man ... would that be received as serious and not alternately?

The problem of humanity that cannot envision spectra ... perhaps just a thing of psychotic nature from the darkness of the great unknown mine ... a hole of abysmal dimensions? Tis dark humour originating from God knows where ... mortals do not get the purpose ... for squeezing out whines and small stuff?
 
"Holy laughter" originated in the charismatic revival meetings known as "the Toronto Blessing." It originally erupted from indescribable and uncontainable joy as seekers experienced high ecstasy in reponse to the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. But later, others wanted to get in on the act and it became almost a disgusting kind of fetish without the high ecstasy. The most precious experiences of the Spirit are all susceptible to counterfeiting.

In that sense, holy laughter is analogous to speaking in tongues. When I spoke in tongues at age 16, coerced by the loving Holy Spirit, I was engulfed by wave after wave of liquid love, each more intense than the last, until the experience changed to a wonderful fear as I felt my mind on the verge of being absorbed into "God mind." Oh the unimaginable sweetness of that experience! It happened in a darkening amphitheater by Pelican Lake, Manitoba. A few spectators drifted in and sat in awe, staring at me. This made me self-conscious and I later asked one lady, Doris, why she was staring. She replied, "Don't you know? Your face is glowing in the dark!" A Lutheran minister later approached me to say he didn't believe in speaking in tongues and was just there as an interested observer. i just touched him gently on the forehead and the anointing on me was so powerful that he exploded in other tongues! The experience so transformed my mind that, a year later, the Premier Duff Roblyn acknowledged me as having the highest senior average in the province. I treasure the photo on my living room table of him shaking my hand not for any ego reason, but as a reminder of how powerful and transformative that spiritual experience was. I know that if any of you had experienced what I experienced that evening, you, like me, would consider it BY FAR the high point of your life.

But I soon realized that most church speaking in tongues is contrived wishful thinking. The real thing happens unexpectedly and involuntarily in a sudden, dramatic, and uncontrolled experience of higher consciousness. I think the skeptic in me would have made me an agnostic, were it not for that life-changing experience. I constantly draw emotional nourishment from the very memory of it.
 
The Greeks apparently said that you could recognize a deity trying to go incognito by their overwhelming hilaritas
 

Holy laughter ----​


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Holy laughter is a term used within charismatic Christianity that describes a religious behaviour in which individuals spontaneously laugh during church meetings. It has occurred in many revivals throughout church history, but it became normative in the early 1990s in Neo-charismatic churches and the Third Wave of the Holy Spirit. Many people claimed to experience this phenomenon at a large revival in Toronto, Ontario, Canada known as the Toronto Blessing.

History[edit]​

Practices similar to holy laughter were observed in the 1800s in Holiness Christian meetings on the American West.[1] John Wesley encountered uncontrollable laughter in his Methodist meetings, and viewed it as an act of God.[2] It also occurred in Signs and Wonders meetings run by John Wimber in the 1980s.[3] The practice came to prominence in meetings led by the South African evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne in 1993 at the Carpenter's Home Church in Lakeland, Florida and was often accompanied by the "Slain in the Spirit" phenomena.[4] The laughter ranges from very quiet to loud convulsive hysterics, which are said to be accompanied by temporary dissociation.[5] It was also observed in meetings held at Oral Roberts University.[6] The phenomena was then popularized by Charisma and the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and became controversial within charismatic Christianity.[4]
Though primarily found in Protestant churches, it was observed in some parts of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal, as well.[7] The practice spread to the Association of Vineyard Churches, most notably to the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in 1994. Religious revival meetings at the church became very popular, drawing 75,000 visitors that year.[8] Many attendees at the meetings spent time laughing loudly while lying on the floor.[4]

Analysis[edit]​

Leaders who have promoted holy laughter said the laughter was a result of joy that was supernaturally being given to people in the meetings.[9] They said the joy was often accompanied by miraculous healing and the cessation of depression.[10] Margaret Poloma of the University of Akron has described the events of the services as a ritual facilitation of catharsis.[11] Philip Richter of STETS has drawn a parallel between holy laughter and laughter yoga.[12]

Reception[edit]​

Many of the activities at these meetings, particularly the laughter, were controversial within evangelical Christianity. Though some religious leaders such as Pat Robertson embraced the movement, groups including the Christian Research Institute[8] and the Southern Baptist Convention condemned what was occurring.[13] Critics charge that the practice is the result of psychological manipulation,[8] or demonic possession.

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I say --------a Ripley's Believe it or not ------from God or Satan ??????????-----

God clearly says the one fruit of the Spirit is self control ---Laughter in some scripture is viewed as negative ------Sarah and Abraham laugh at God when told they would conceive a child ------

Holy laughter is laughing uncontrollably-----and nowhere in Scripture does it say we are to be slain in the Spirit or laugh uncontrollably that is brought on by and through the Holy Spirit--

Holy Ghost Laughter Service -​



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Then there are the gurgling and laughing waters ... leaving everyone a bit drippy and despised by the non dynamic stones ... stoics?

May be just a Semite, icon or sign of something alternate ... real folk cannot stand anything different ...
 
Imagine what a sparkling light could do with a small pond east of what he thought to be Eden ... a beauty in the heat?

Life is like that heated and searching more power until the thing blows ...

Some mystic said to Kohl it ... and then the dark cloud came down ... as the end of Dei and flocks get distraught over it ... amuses some strange and alien observer ... out there ... OBI? Thus the separation of body and soma ... psychosomatics? These drift ...
 
The author of Ecclesiastes acknowledged that life happens and it includes all aspects of life.

Imagine folk in the absolute state that cannot accept such information as alternate virtue ... an untruth?

One may have to look those over inside and out ... reciprocation of position? Heads down you demiurges ... look into what's supporting ...

May require repeated trips under the bridge ... Tallahassee? The stuff that goes on down there said to be Mazal Tov ... good? By God there may be something there ...
 
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