Is the Christian story a myth?

[Redbaron]

Didn't we actually do a bible study here on Oord's latest book? I'm sure I actually bought it and its in my Amazon library, although I haven't re-read it.

Yes, we did start the study, but life intervened for several people, and we didn’t finish the book together.

 

[Mystic]

And I would note that my post did not, largely, violate our community guidelines. I believe that it is within our guidelines to describe a belief as morally repugnant. Should someone come on this site advocating female genital mutilation, I would have similar moral objections.

I think it is an important prophetic role to point out the damaging/harmful/hurtful potential of beliefs around an interventionist god. It damages humans, it actively hurts the religion that it attempts to promote.

Yes it did--with the tacit approval of posters who pretend to promote civil discourse. Notice that I provide reasoned arguments for all my positions and you imagine that inflammatory pontifications to a sympathetic woke audience need no rational arguments in their defense. If you must hide behind authors like Oord and Kushner, then bring them on to the question of the biblical interventionist God.

When I use the term "mindless," I'm of course referring to unreasoned pontifications. Red Baron's use of the ridicule emoji and insults in post 57 makes a mockery of all the pious discussion of Community Values. I'm contemplating starting a new thread on "The Implications of the
Biblical Interventionist God" to see once for all if it's even possible to have a challenging civil discussion with progressives here.
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[ninj]

...I'm contemplating starting a new thread on "The Implications of the
Biblical Interventionist God" to see once for all if it's even possible to have a challenging civil discussion with progressives here...

That's an excellent idea if only to give Paradox3 her thread back.
Go for it.

 

[Waterfall]

I'm contemplating starting a new thread on "The Implications of the
Biblical Interventionist God" to see once for all if it's even possible to have a challenging civil discussion with progressives here.
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That would be interesting.

 

[Pavlos Maros]

Your Dunning–Kruger is effecting your superiority complex, Mystic. Lol. You are a funny guy.

 

[Luce NDs]

Yes it did--with the tacit approval of posters who pretend to promote civil discourse. Notice that I provide reasoned arguments for all my positions and you imagine that inflammatory pontifications to a sympathetic woke audience need no rational arguments in their defense. If you must hide behind authors like Oord and Kushner, then bring them on to the question of the biblical interventionist God.

When I use the term "mindless," I'm of course referring to unreasoned pontifications. Red Baron's use of the ridicule emoji and insults in post 57 makes a mockery of all the pious discussion of Community Values. I'm contemplating starting a new thread on "The Implications of the
Biblical Interventionist God" to see once for all if it's even possible to have a challenging civil discussion with progressives here.
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And this kind of characterization is considered a kind projection ... the point of a great wake-up for those having a fit about WOKE in NG ... onus of freedom involving some culpability ... god left leaving this quality that powers waste ... imagine that as an abstract attached to the absolute (a kind of funny ultimate passed about on God as word ... connectable?

Then there are vast disassociation because of the great desire to not do that ... thus religious antisocialism ... hard cases! Not in any essence part of a friable icon ... workable? More hard words that appear like quids throwing stones ...

Then there is that reference to Kruger-Dunn that suggest a slip and collapse in the ups and downs of life in the quantum zone ... it wrinkles ... some mediums fold but don't wrinkle! Em Eire smooth duckies ... emirates ... some ultimate! They can be questioned on virtue and don' live on a field of lies as Wahl of misinformation ... poorly understood word ... as it could meant everything, or anything ... depends on how you are set up for the falls ... haia wahta ... how vapours come down was missed by Freud as an after thought on arch type ... folk do not well understand arch type and idealism corrupted by force!

Thus interventionist god without decent mythology ... all that can be in mind as it is nothing to waste! Said to be an abstract as an incomplete part of something more extensive ... an intense experience of going down in the fall? Thus incisions an incisive matter ... one does not learn alternately without pathos! It resembles chaos ... that's where we're at ... still no idea of the source unseen! Reason for wonder ...

Goes down in time as histories lie about ... while the onus believes any old myth that they can gain advantage with ... how taking advantage works both ways ... pity eh?

 

[paradox3]

Your Dunning–Kruger is effecting your superiority complex, Mystic. Lol. You are a funny guy.

Had to look that one up.

 

[Luce NDs]

Had to look that one up.

Look it up and down ... it indicates the heights of some downers ... Valles? Even Valkyries ... and further one might ask of Kyries ... sophisticated interests!

 

[paradox3]

I do not debate what is myth or fact, because it is ultimately the story (not the origin) that has impact, and it is up to individuals to seek out the most positive and generous impact of the story.

This is a really good point which is worth pondering.

 

[Luce NDs]

This is a really good point which is worth pondering.

It is said when entering the tent (cover) prodigally ... one should have a virtue of grasp to the understanding for adding to the ultimate recorder ... thus journaled as it goes round? Virtue unseen, unknown in reality ... because of the real lies ...

 

[paradox3]

May I suggest you reread Bette's insulting inflammatory post dissing without reasons the biblical "interventionist God" and notice that she offers no rational grounds for her disrespect, I suspect, because she knows she has a poor grasp of the biblical interventionist God. I'm eager to debate this issue if confrontational debate is actually permitted on this site.
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Bette is very well known to us here & her views about an interventionist God are fairly mainstream in this crowd. I suggest it wasn't necessarily for her to detail her reasons.

I am not sure why you read her post as inflammatory or disrespectful.

The discussion heats up later in the thread though. I wouldn't call belief in an interventionist God morally repugnant myself. I do find it problematic.

I am on board with your view of this emoji when it is used in a mocking way.

 

[Luce NDs]

Bette is very well known to us here & her views about an interventionist God are fairly mainstream in this crowd. I suggest it wasn't necessarily for her to detail her reasons.

I am not sure why you read her post as inflammatory or disrespectful.

The discussion heats up later in the thread though. I wouldn't call belief in an interventionist God morally repugnant myself. I do find it problematic.

I am on board with your view of this emoji when it is used in a mocking way.

How to kill a mocking bird ... oh ge Zus ... in total or otherwise integral ignorance about controlling factors ... mystery to read into as there is no bottom end ...

 

[Mystic]

Bette is very well known to us here & her views about an interventionist God are fairly mainstream in this crowd. I suggest it wasn't necessarily for her to detail her reasons.

I am not sure why you read her post as inflammatory or disrespectful.

The discussion heats up later in the thread though. I wouldn't call belief in an interventionist God morally repugnant myself. I do find it problematic.

I am on board with your view of this emoji when it is used in a mocking way.

That's the main reason why I've closely followed with amusement the futile pious discussion on Community Values. Pavlos served up more of those emojis overnight. Be clear that such mindless mocking is precisely why I use my blunt debate rhetoric that counters ridicule from uneducated groupies with unopposed logic and rationales and make no apologies for doing so. Such insults don't get to me; they spur me on and make posting here more fun.. I think I will start a separate thread on "The Biblical Interventionist God" because I'm fascinated by the desperate rhetorical expedients to which uninformed progressives must resort to express their resentment at confident conservative debate.

 

[paradox3]

Now we are uneducated groupies and uninformed progressives??? @Mystic

My, my, the insults pile up.

 

[paradox3]

It gets tough to host a discussion like this when the insults start flying back and forth. Looks like we might be finished with the topic though.

 

[ninj]

That's the main reason why I've closely followed with amusement the futile pious discussion on Community Values. Pavlos served up more of those emojis overnight. Be clear that such mindless mocking is precisely why I use my blunt debate rhetoric that counters ridicule from uneducated groupies with unopposed logic and rationales and make no apologies for doing so. Such insults don't get to me; they spur me on and make posting here more fun.. I think I will start a separate thread on "The Biblical Interventionist God" because I'm fascinated by the desperate rhetorical expedients to which uninformed progressives must resort to express their resentment at confident conservative debate.

You already told us yesterday you were going to do that. And yes, you are clearly surrounded by idiots. Please consider us a waste of your time.

 

[Luce NDs]

That's the main reason why I've closely followed with amusement the futile pious discussion on Community Values. Pavlos served up more of those emojis overnight. Be clear that such mindless mocking is precisely why I use my blunt debate rhetoric that counters ridicule from uneducated groupies with unopposed logic and rationales and make no apologies for doing so. Such insults don't get to me; they spur me on and make posting here more fun.. I think I will start a separate thread on "The Biblical Interventionist God" because I'm fascinated by the desperate rhetorical expedients to which uninformed progressives must resort to express their resentment at confident conservative debate.

Is there a mule among us as a satyr? Can such donkeys admire themselves? Thus the need to kill the mocker ... that would agree with evangelistic drive to shoot all those that are not like them ... strangers ar evil like the one from Galilee ... so hung out ... life is like that ... it hates it's elf ... potentially its emotion about a small mined thing ... deficient?

 

[jimkenney12]

Important myths are the core truths of experiences wrapped up in shareable stories.

 

[Mendalla]

Some might argue stories are what make our world. We tell stories to make sense of the world, and they then become the world, at least subjectively. Gaiman plays with that a lot, esp. in The Sandman comics and TV series. And it's the basis for Nightwish's song "Storytime" (indeed, their whole album Imaginaerum goes there to some degree).

 

[Luce NDs]

In one theory it is said that the only way to get information into a difficult place is via myth as the truth just is not the thing because most of produced virtue is lied about ...

This is difficult to deal with simply and thus sophisticated myths ...