Novel Coronavirus

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Register Log in
KayTheCurler said:
That was an interesting answer Mendalla. It sounds like a well thought out plan of action that should serve patients well and protect them and staff.
Click to expand...

We have actually had a pandemic plan in place ever since SARS. This has definitely forced some changes and refinements, but at least we had one to start from.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
calgary.ctvnews.ca

RCMP issued 7 tickets to Americans found in Banff, Alta. over the past week

Alberta RCMP have confirmed to CTV News that seven tickets for violating the public health rules for COVID-19 were given out to Americans last week.
calgary.ctvnews.ca calgary.ctvnews.ca
Click to expand...

I put an angry face on that ... let me clarify that I am not angry with the 'sight seers'.

The viral level of insanity around support for medical martial law is alarming to say the least.

People who like that this is happening ... make me at first :mad: but the more I think about it ... I get less angry and more and more :cry:.

To report violations of the Quarantine Act (such as failure to abide by the mandatory 14-day quarantine or isolation upon entry to Canada), persons should contact the Public Health Agency of Canada or the police agency of jurisdiction.

:eek: Wow ... stopping to look at scenery is now considered violation of health rules and

anyone caught breaking the current border restriction would be considered to be violation of the Quarantine Act.

That could lead to up to $750,000 in fines or six months in prison.

Furthermore ...

If sightseeing ends up causing a risk of imminent death or serious bodily harm to another person, they would face up to $1 million in fines and a possible three-year sentence.

When is this insanity going to stop.
 
I understand that Americans are allowed to drive to Alaska. Frankly I am surprised that so many do that but so be it

but we could be much more careful at the boarder

every American wanting to cross must have a COVID test, at their expense. Then they must wait on their side of the border until they get a negative result. At which point they can cross and drive to Alaska

I don’t think that is too much to ask. You want to drive from Texas to Alaska, which is surely at least a six day trip seeking its 23 hours to Florida, then plan on spending two to three days in a hotel near the border waiting for your results
 
Lastpointe said:
I understand that Americans are allowed to drive to Alaska. Frankly I am surprised that so many do that but so be it

but we could be much more careful at the boarder

every American wanting to cross must have a COVID test, at their expense. Then they must wait on their side of the border until they get a negative result. At which point they can cross and drive to Alaska

I don’t think that is too much to ask. You want to drive from Texas to Alaska, which is surely at least a six day trip seeking its 23 hours to Florida, then plan on spending two to three days in a hotel near the border waiting for your results
Click to expand...
A negative test just means they don't have enough virus to test positive at that point in time though, it doesn't mean that they won't in 2, 3 days time.
 
I agree that they need to be more stringent at the border. Someone I know suggested travellers have a time limit. If they don't make the time limit, or deviate, they need to have consequences. I agree with that.

This isn't merely about taking a little side trip for sight seeing. This is disrespecting another country's rules and citizens. It's about flaunting the rules/guidelines and potentially putting people at risk. If you lie at the border in any other manner you will be banned from entering the country, no matter which direction you're travelling. People crossing the border to sightsee are lying when they say they are travelling to Alaska.

This is not insanity. It's based on public health guidelines. We have lower levels of the illness here because we have take measures to be safe. We don't need some a**holes travelling across the border ruining that. Banff is not on the way to Alaska.
 
ChemGal said:
A negative test just means they don't have enough virus to test positive at that point in time though, it doesn't mean that they won't in 2, 3 days time.
Click to expand...

I'm frustrated by what seems to be the over reliance on tests as some kind of magic bullet. A test is merely a moment in time. It's not a definitive answer.
 
ChemGal said:
A negative test just means they don't have enough virus to test positive at that point in time though, it doesn't mean that they won't in 2, 3 days time.
Click to expand...

that’s interesting to me ChemGal. Are you saying that a negative test means nothing? Obviously a positive test means something. So what do we do about testing. People get tested and have negative results which allows them to do things. Obviously they could later in run into a positive person and become infected. But it makes me wonder what we do about testing

if what you are saying is that a negative test is not definitive, I get that. I guess then I would suggest that Americans choosing to drive to Alaska should be tested and quarantined at their expense in a border hotel for two weeks. The same as I did when I returned from Florida. And then after two weeks tested again?

and Honestly, I wonder in past years how many Americans drove to Alaska. Compared to now
 
Lastpointe said:
that’s interesting to me ChemGal. Are you saying that a negative test means nothing? Obviously a positive test means something. So what do we do about testing. People get tested and have negative results which allows them to do things. Obviously they could later in run into a positive person and become infected. But it makes me wonder what we do about testing

if what you are saying is that a negative test is not definitive, I get that. I guess then I would suggest that Americans choosing to drive to Alaska should be tested and quarantined at their expense in a border hotel for two weeks. The same as I did when I returned from Florida. And then after two weeks tested again?

and Honestly, I wonder in past years how many Americans drove to Alaska. Compared to now
Click to expand...
I wouldn't say it means nothing. If someone tests negative, they are very unlikely to infect others due to the low viral load (assuming the test & sample are both good). The test only gives information for that point in time though.

I think testing at the border could be helpful, but that doesn't mean all other measures should be ignored. If someone say tests negative, and 5 days later experiences symptoms, they should be retested unless there is a good explanation for the symptoms besides COVID-19.
 
Masks that deaf and hearing impaired people can lip-read through. Cool.

I was just wondering, though, what keeps the vinyl from fogging up - how it affects breathing - and if hearing people can hear speaking people very clearly if they’re wearing them. I suppose that if everybody wearing them knows sign language regardless of if they can hear or not, that helps. For them to be helpful for deaf people in public, more of the general population would need to start wearing this type of mask. I would if I could buy one here for a reasonable price - and as long as they don’t “sweat” and fog up too much, and I can still breathe comfortably enough.


toronto.ctvnews.ca

Ontario man making masks specifically for the hearing impaired

Max Cucchiella has been making masks in his home since the pandemic began, but recently he saw the need to help a specific community.
toronto.ctvnews.ca toronto.ctvnews.ca
 
Last edited:
Anyone heard of this phenomenon?

“But a shadow looms over the global race to develop a pandemic vaccine: a little-known phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), also known as disease enhancement or immune enhancement.”

The antibodies create a situation in which for some people, a later infection is not only not stopped by the antibodies, it is even worse than what one would expect without a vaccine. It has been noted for SARS-2 and MERS. Search for SARS-1 vaccine was stopped after ADE was observed.

The long road to a Covid-19 vaccine | Free to read
 
There are some local outbreaks in Germany. As result, some areas are not opening up as planned and they are testing the whole county like crazy. As vacation time starts- and Germans like to travel, the destinations have different regulations, which is kind of crazy- people have to make sure they know the conditions for where they are going. If you come from an area where there is presently an outbreak, you either have to quarantine there or you have to come with proof of a negative test.
In PEI a minister has found a nasty note on her windshield “ to go back to the mainland” because of her NS licence plate, despite her living and working on PEI for a while. Covid brings out the best or the worst in people.
 
Mendalla said:
Where'd you hear that? Hasn't come up at work yet and it's definitely something that would concern us.
Click to expand...
CTV - worldwide issue, producers aren't keeping up with demand. Yes, with the worldwide shortage not all countries are affected equally.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
In PEI a minister has found a nasty note on her windshield “ to go back to the mainland” because of her NS licence plate, despite her living and working on PEI for a while. Covid brings out the best or the worst in people.
Click to expand...
There's been a fair bit of that happening in tourist BC places for those with AB plates. Some of them are residents using AB vehicles, some move there seasonally, some haven't switched over registration, etc.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top