Lastpointe
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SNL was funny. Damon was eerily crazy and captured him well
Thoughts re allegations re Kavanaugh
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Graeme Decarie
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The problem with kavanaugh is not simply his sexual excess. I mean, if that were the major criterion, Trump would have been dead meat a long time ago - as would have been JFK, FDR, and a great many other presidents. The reason the Republicans want him is that he will use the court to disallow any government measure which in any way imposes limits on the very wealthy. And that would last for the next twenty years.
As a justice, he would represent only the interests of the very, very wealthy. So the U.S. would never see medicare, for example.
As a justice, he would represent only the interests of the very, very wealthy. So the U.S. would never see medicare, for example.
BetteTheRed
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And it's the repeal of Roe vs Wade that, purportedly, justifies GOP voting for sleazebags like this, and Trump before him. Why do people want such control over women's bodies?
Graeme Decarie
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They don't. They want control over evangelical voters.
BetteTheRed
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So why do the evangelical voters want such control over women's bodies?
Graeme Decarie
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To satisfy their own self-righteousness. To many, perhaps most, of them, the only purpose of religion is to get themselves into heaven. And they achieve that by forcing others to accept their values. Of course, their values (like those of most Christians) never extend to saving children in Yemen who they are starving to death.
BetteTheRed
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...or to the women they will sentence to death by backroom abortion.
chansen
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Many Christian groups are very interested in your sexual activity and that if you have sex out of wedlock you need to be shamed for any baby it produces. They are the most perverted people in the world.
But I don't think they overturn Roe v Wade quickly or easily. The carrot is the desire to overturn it. Once it's overturned, no carrot. They need the abortion debate to drive voters to the polls.
But I don't think they overturn Roe v Wade quickly or easily. The carrot is the desire to overturn it. Once it's overturned, no carrot. They need the abortion debate to drive voters to the polls.
Graeme Decarie
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good distinction.
Although...Once they start overturning stuff...if a fascist dictatorship/ one party rule, spells the end of democracy, they no longer need voters. They just do whatever the fk they want. Look at Trump, and the people who support him. The majority of voters did not vote for him. The ones who did wanted a guy who would dismantle democratic institutions like a bull in a china shop, and who they see as a rich and powerful strongman who does whatever the fk he wants.
I think it’s being used correctly now. Okay...far, far right authoritarian plutocracy ruling, using a few well worn shady tactics to gain power...with plenty of people dumb enough not to recognize it?
BetteTheRed
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Roe vs Wade is a specific issue that tends to pit women against men. I know conservative American men - this issue is important to them. It's also very interesting to PG-13. It's a focal point of control over women.
Mrs.Anteater
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There is a very interesting documentary on Netflix called “ Reversing Roe”, I just watched it. Gives a good description to how politics played a role in the choice of the supreme court judges and has some impressive examples of people standing up for womens rights.
Or maybe people can start paying attention to the fact that's it's happening instead of getting upset with me for using that "F" word. I think strong words are warranted to describe these powerful people trying to put a stranglehold on democracy.
Carolla
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I'm just watching a doumentary tonight too on TV - this one called "Dark Money" - wow - so disturbing - on the way that votes, judges, governors are bought in the US & state of Montana's fight for transparency. Harrowing. There are some public screenings listed on its website - not sure if it might be available online anywhere. Dark Money: A Kimberly Reed Film Have been thinking of @Graeme Decarie as I watch it. The Kavanaugh appointment slide in on this slope IMO.
Pinga
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The woman who played his wife in that sketch is the daughter of a friend of mine, who is an actor in New York. She grew up in our church and we were lucky to have her present many a piece.
This doesn’t seem to be available online yet. But, along the same lines, I found this interview from about a year ago. Jane Mayer, was/ is a NY Times journalist who wrote a book about dark money and the rise of the far right.
The role dark money may have played in Gorsuch’s nomination is mentioned.
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